Dark Souls "Baka Gaijin Edition"
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Kyorisu




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 19:31    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
Why do enemies 15 times bigger than me hurt me, mommy?


Logic? The game is entirely non logical. There are things enemies can do that you can't do for starters. There's a lot of "oh fuck off that's not fair" moments to be sure.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 19:35    Post subject:
Kyorisu wrote:
There's a lot of "oh fuck off that's not fair" moments to be sure.


Like those two fucking Bell Gargoyles, that was a definite "Oh what? That's just bullSHIT!" moment grinhurt Especially when they both start going apeshit, slashing at you, bathing the entire rooftop in flame, yeah that was fun.

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BloodySpy




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 19:38    Post subject:
I reached Blighttown and i officially hate it. Lots of places to fall to your death, toxic dart snipers... did i mention i also managed to get cursed by basilisks in the previous area ?
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 19:40    Post subject:
Kyorisu wrote:
djaoni wrote:
Why do enemies 15 times bigger than me hurt me, mommy?


Logic? The game is entirely non logical. There are things enemies can do that you can't do for starters. There's a lot of "oh fuck off that's not fair" moments to be sure.


Agreed game can be quite frustrating at certain points, I beat the "Artorias of the Abyss" content (The new stuff for the PC version.) and some stuff there is downright brutal but I might have done it wrong for all I know, nearly done with the game now otherwise, still have New Game+ mode of course plus I know of a few things I missed or messed up but otherwise I'm pretty happy with how this first run through has gone.

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djaoni




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 19:40    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Kyorisu wrote:
There's a lot of "oh fuck off that's not fair" moments to be sure.


Like those two fucking Bell Gargoyles, that was a definite "Oh what? That's just bullSHIT!" moment grinhurt Especially when they both start going apeshit, slashing at you, bathing the entire rooftop in flame, yeah that was fun.

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You can summon Solaire to help you with the fight. It's probably the easiest fight in the game if you do, though, since he tanks all the damage, so more fun to not do that!
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BloodySpy




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 19:43    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Agreed, I beat the "Artorias of the Abyss" content (The new stuff for the PC version.) and some stuff there is downright brutal but I might have done it wrong for all I know, nearly done with the game now otherwise, still have New Game+ mode of course plus I know of a few things I missed or messed up but otherwise I'm pretty happy with how this first run through has gone.


JB, i'm in the Great Hollow now, rang both of the bells...how much do I have till i reach the new content ? Thanks.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 19:45    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
You can summon Solaire to help you with the fight. It's probably the easiest fight in the game if you do, though, since he tanks all the damage, so more fun to not do that!


That's precisely why I HAVEN'T summoned him to help at any time, it feels like it would take the fun out of the game.
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:00    Post subject:
fuck me, i just wanted to test the game on pc with the dsfix 0.4 and my dual shock 3 controller via motioninjoy with x360 config, and i am on my way to blighttown already Very Happy
still every bit as addictive as a year ago when i finished the 360 version.
i gotta say, witht he newest dsfix and dual shock 3 or 360 controller with proper config (no start button for lock-on bullshit, but proper controls) it is easily the best version.
gfx are great, framerate is constant and controls are the same, what a difference to playing it vanilla.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:01    Post subject:
BloodySpy wrote:
JBeckman wrote:
Agreed, I beat the "Artorias of the Abyss" content (The new stuff for the PC version.) and some stuff there is downright brutal but I might have done it wrong for all I know, nearly done with the game now otherwise, still have New Game+ mode of course plus I know of a few things I missed or messed up but otherwise I'm pretty happy with how this first run through has gone.


JB, i'm in the Great Hollow now, rang both of the bells...how much do I have till i reach the new content ? Thanks.


Honestly, it's going to take a while. Smile

Here's a more detailed (Though I'll try to minimize spoilers where possible.) answer. Smile

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EDIT: A bit more spoilers.
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Dazz99




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:03    Post subject:
Bell Gargoyles can be a pain in the ass if you're new to the game. Just when you feel comfortable with the game it throws 2 bosses at you.

Smough & Ornstein is 100x worse though as they're both incredibly strong and fight in the opposite way making it incredibly hard to handle.


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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:08    Post subject:
That battle was interesting, I wanted a certain thing though so I did the more difficult path with the help of Solaire, would have been impossible otherwise though Solaire was quite close to being dispatched even before the battle got difficult and then things got really tense but eventually I succeeded, now I'm mostly trying to decide if it's worth it to do a certain other thing but it'll paint me as a permanent PvP target for a certain Covenant which is a real problem because I'm having trouble enough as is from the Darkwraith's whom are invading on occasion.
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Sohei




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:18    Post subject:
Dazz99 wrote:
Bell Gargoyles can be a pain in the ass if you're new to the game. Just when you feel comfortable with the game it throws 2 bosses at you.

Smough & Ornstein is 100x worse though as they're both incredibly strong and fight in the opposite way making it incredibly hard to handle.


I actually thought the gargoyles were kinda easy, easy to avoid/block attacks, and the other one that spits fire is also easy to avoid with positioning. First three bosses are not so hard, i expect things to get alot more harder soon xD
Now that black knight dude on undead pariah on the other hand, still havent taken him down :/ i want his greatsword Very Happy
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Kyorisu




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:24    Post subject:
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:25    Post subject:
Sohei wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
Bell Gargoyles can be a pain in the ass if you're new to the game. Just when you feel comfortable with the game it throws 2 bosses at you.

Smough & Ornstein is 100x worse though as they're both incredibly strong and fight in the opposite way making it incredibly hard to handle.


I actually thought the gargoyles were kinda easy, easy to avoid/block attacks, and the other one that spits fire is also easy to avoid with positioning. First three bosses are not so hard, i expect things to get alot more harder soon xD
Now that black knight dude on undead pariah on the other hand, still havent taken him down :/ i want his greatsword Very Happy


Go get the Zweihänder and the black knights die in 4 hits.

Be sure to get 10 humanity before you kill him since it's a random drop.

Time for me head down to the Depths Sad
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:29    Post subject:
Sohei wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
Bell Gargoyles can be a pain in the ass if you're new to the game. Just when you feel comfortable with the game it throws 2 bosses at you.

Smough & Ornstein is 100x worse though as they're both incredibly strong and fight in the opposite way making it incredibly hard to handle.


I actually thought the gargoyles were kinda easy, easy to avoid/block attacks, and the other one that spits fire is also easy to avoid with positioning. First three bosses are not so hard, i expect things to get alot more harder soon xD
Now that black knight dude on undead pariah on the other hand, still havent taken him down :/ i want his greatsword Very Happy


I killed him pretty easily, he didn't drop shit for me :/

Just keep block up at all times and walk around him, learn his attacks and hit him after he's done trying to hit you. keep at it for a while and he's dead.
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:35    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Sohei wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
Bell Gargoyles can be a pain in the ass if you're new to the game. Just when you feel comfortable with the game it throws 2 bosses at you.

Smough & Ornstein is 100x worse though as they're both incredibly strong and fight in the opposite way making it incredibly hard to handle.


I actually thought the gargoyles were kinda easy, easy to avoid/block attacks, and the other one that spits fire is also easy to avoid with positioning. First three bosses are not so hard, i expect things to get alot more harder soon xD
Now that black knight dude on undead pariah on the other hand, still havent taken him down :/ i want his greatsword Very Happy


I killed him pretty easily, he didn't drop shit for me :/

Just keep block up at all times and walk around him, learn his attacks and hit him after he's done trying to hit you. keep at it for a while and he's dead.


yea its easy, same tactic as always with these kind of enemies: circle around them, after they attack backstab them for massive damage, voilà.
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:39    Post subject:
I don't even circle around them. Stand a bit from them, and when they start the attack animation just walk out of range then charge in and attack once, rinse and repeat till they're dead.

This is only for enemies like the Black Knights/Butcher.
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:42    Post subject:
yes but as i said, backstab = several times the damage of normal attack, you can usually kill them with 2-3 backstabs, much quicker.
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:44    Post subject:
Only took me 3 strong attacks with a +2 Zweihänder.

Obviously do backstabs if you play a character that benefits from that.
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 20:47    Post subject:
Joeskeppi2 wrote:
Oh wow, poison, lasts about 15 minutes, it's quicker to ALT F4 and reload.

Only on a console could this be a good games, if this was a PC title it would be a 6/10.
Laughing ehmmm what to say , its the Knight's Field spiritual successor... a sony console game from a developer that knows how to make hard real life like rpgs [not those crap manga emo big sissy bro lets play with children because we are pedos like shit]... if part 2 would be again a ps3 exclusive then this FAIL port wouldn't exist ... but yeah like they say if you make a xbox360 game a pc game is a freebie build already there with dx9 calls in place

imagine you have a console developer that does only console game and now they get this FAN thing and there have this freebie dx9 thing laying around so they say... hey let's make more money

the thing is on PC you have something like Drivers for sound , graphics etc. something like Configuration for those drivers etc... explain that to a Japan culture of console developers that develop on ONE closed system with set standards with known limitations , same sound chips graphic etc...


a perfect example is ...Prince of Persia 4 : Sands Of Time a game designed for PC that was ported to other systems ... it had the perfect control scheme KB+Mouse... lets go into the future and compare it to the horrible awful port Prince of Persia: Warrior Within pc got the ps2 version not the XBox and well you where FORCED to have a PAD min with 12 button and two ANALOGS to be able to finish this or play ...or be a monkey and have a tail map 12 buttons on keyboard and play wtih a mouse ... a horrible experience

or hey lets get back to MGS 2 on PC a port that horrible it was :
A. only complatible with ATI cards Laughing you have to hex edit a crack to make it even nvidia compatible
B. did i mention you needed to press 5 buttons at the same time to shot a GUN Laughing

did i completed those two games
POP 5 nope didn't had a pad , but MGS2 yup had to hex hack a exe to make it run on a Nvidia card , a game that should run right out of the box ... when now i play the HD remake on the xbox360 and only have to press 2 buttons to fire anything... its a different experience... its a different better game

or Alien Breed remake again on KB+M its unplayable but on a PAD its a great game

or Devil May Cry 3 on PC with fucked up controls right out the box that was only fix if you used a external program joy2key but still right analog is fucked ... again the HD remake was a blessing but its on consoles


so why the PC people rant :
a game should work right out the box

not you need XYZ and ONLY THIS SPECIFIC XYZ drivers for sound [ try to play any game that needs open all sound drivers on newer system ... tough luck you need a work around], graphics [drivers that destroyed a game Splinter Cell Double Agent or The Longest Journey 2 : DreamFall anyone] [Ati users well you know what i am talking about], control scheme etc..

if a game adds a anal probe to play a game thats not on the consoles
what would you pick

i am not a elitist PC prick fan boy zombie or what ever you hip people call yourself today , i am a old man that wants to experience a game not have hassles with technical shits to play a game ... pc users rant they pay money for a unfinished product , a product they have to self fix , not that i want to streamline the shit of things still want to tweak anything on my pc but when you buy something like this... you get angry

when i play games of today i think developers for PC are backwards retarded and senile and think PC only still runs DOS and users still need to tweak config.sys file to have enough shit external ram with qemm or tweak your ram etc. to be able to run a game

to make this wall short they didn't knew how to develop a game on PC and what control standards are used porting it and hoping it runs , a great real life like rpg became a unplayable mess on pc

thats why i play on mediums on with a game is a game not a technical disaster


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randir14




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 21:14    Post subject:
Is anyone else getting some big fps drops in Blighttown and Demonic Ruins when using dsfix? It only happens when I look in certain directions, but it drops down to 15 fps. If I delete dsfix the problem goes away.
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Amer_MerzZz




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 21:23    Post subject:
Of course it does, cause the GPU doesn't render everything in 2x resolution.


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BloodySpy




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 21:28    Post subject:
Meh, just lost all humanity points and souls at Ash Lake. Some stupid glitch on a branch and - poof - fell into water before i reached my bloodstain. This game is really, really, testing my patience. Serenity NOW !!!! Smile
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randir14




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 21:28    Post subject:
Amer_MerzZz wrote:
Of course it does, cause the GPU doesn't render everything in 2x resolution.


I'm just wondering why it only drops in those areas and nowhere else
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djcyrax




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 21:31    Post subject:
This has to be one the hardest modern games I have ever played. How anyone ever beat this shit is beyond me.
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sausje
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 21:40    Post subject:
How do i get back from the gaping dragon bossfight? I'm kinda lost grinhurt


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Dazz99




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 21:45    Post subject:
djcyrax wrote:
This has to be one the hardest modern games I have ever played. How anyone ever beat this shit is beyond me.
patience, trial and error, alot more patience

you feel incredible when you finally finish gwyn

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How do i get back from the gaping dragon bossfight? I'm kinda lost
the depths is lower

you can go even more lower towards blighttown from one end of the gaping dragon fight or you can head upwards the way you came and go back to the undead burg

if you're going to blighttown i would suggest heading to darkwood basin and farming the tree fellas for some anti toxin herbs


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BloodySpy




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 21:47    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
How do i get back from the gaping dragon bossfight? I'm kinda lost grinhurt


Just go back the way you came in, up the stairs, and look for the door to Blightown. Be prepared to hate it too. Smile
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 21:50    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Sohei wrote:


I actually thought the gargoyles were kinda easy, easy to avoid/block attacks, and the other one that spits fire is also easy to avoid with positioning. First three bosses are not so hard, i expect things to get alot more harder soon xD
Now that black knight dude on undead pariah on the other hand, still havent taken him down :/ i want his greatsword Very Happy


I killed him pretty easily, he didn't drop shit for me :/

Just keep block up at all times and walk around him, learn his attacks and hit him after he's done trying to hit you. keep at it for a while and he's dead.


yea its easy, same tactic as always with these kind of enemies: circle around them, after they attack backstab them for massive damage, voilà.


Problem is that it's quite difficult doing a backstab. You need to stand PERFECTLY behind him. I didn't manage to get a single backstab on my kill.
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Aug 2012 21:57    Post subject:
yea in the beginning its difficult, i used to only get every 5th or 7th backstab, but after alot of practice i never miss one anymore, and it really pays off.
it helps to stop moving when youre at the right spot and then quickly strike, you get the feel of it after a while, its tough to describe.
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