Cyberpunk 2077 (CD Projekt RED)
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 14:18    Post subject:
It's an established universe and US very much exists in it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_2020#The_world_of_Cyberpunk_2020

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Cyberpunk 2020, as the name implies, takes place in the year 2020. The game's default setting is the fictional Night City located between Los Angeles and San Francisco on the west coast of the United States (near San Jose, California). Later supplements to the game have contained information about the rest of the US and the world.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 14:18    Post subject:
Cyberpunk in real life? Honestly I have to think twice about that. If it was a cool one, and not the normal "oppress everybody" kinda of cyberpunk, which is the one always used, if not the only one indeed. I think would prefer steampunk to it. But anyway, I do believe the future will be somewhat shaped into a cyberpunk setting, sooner or later. Who knows? But I do look forward to it.

Anyway, the engine used is the same used in The Witcher 2, right? And I do hope they don't get too big in their heads and screw things over. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 14:54    Post subject:
Hopefully they'll get the setting right for the genre, and not like Deus Ex and most other ""cyberpunk" games.. Cyberpunk = "low-lifes and hi-tech" Very Happy

dont know anything about the p&p game, concept looks promising.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 15:41    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Hopefully they'll get the setting right for the genre, and not like Deus Ex and most other ""cyberpunk" games.. Cyberpunk = "low-lifes and hi-tech" Very Happy

dont know anything about the p&p game, concept looks promising.

Deus ex is for "low-lifes and hi-tech"? O my....
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 15:43    Post subject:
Your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 15:56    Post subject:
nikman wrote:

Deus ex is for "low-lifes and hi-tech"? O my....


Indeed. Come back when you've learned some english. Bye.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 16:03    Post subject:
nikman wrote:
vurt wrote:
Hopefully they'll get the setting right for the genre, and not like Deus Ex and most other ""cyberpunk" games.. Cyberpunk = "low-lifes and hi-tech" Very Happy

dont know anything about the p&p game, concept looks promising.

Deus ex is for "low-lifes and hi-tech"? O my....


Go watch the movie Clueless.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 16:07    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Hopefully they'll get the setting right for the genre, and not like Deus Ex and most other ""cyberpunk" games.. Cyberpunk = "low-lifes and hi-tech" Very Happy

How do you think a cyberpunk ambiance should be?
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 16:09    Post subject:
Roger_Young wrote:
vurt wrote:
Hopefully they'll get the setting right for the genre, and not like Deus Ex and most other ""cyberpunk" games.. Cyberpunk = "low-lifes and hi-tech" Very Happy

How do you imagine a cyberpunk ambiance should be?


Like Neuromancer which defined it. It's supposed to be about low-lifes / "punks" (it's called cyberpunk for a reason).
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 16:22    Post subject:
How is Deus Ex not Cyberpunk? Cyberpunk typically (and yes, do look at Neuromancer) involves megacorporations running the world rather than governments [check], lots of high tech [check] but shit living standards for the general population [check], often some form of AI [check], a protagonist who gets fucked up (physically) in one way or another [check], often also lots of addiction in the whole world (drugs or otherwise) [check], heavy focus on hacking soft-/hardware [check]..


Really?


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 16:25    Post subject:
I meant specifically the protagonist, but yes Deus Ex has a lot of Cyberpunk influences.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 16:43    Post subject:
cheat2win wrote:
Anyway, the engine used is the same used in The Witcher 2, right? And I do hope they don't get too big in their heads and screw things over. Smile

RED Engine awesomesauce, aye. Shouldn't be hard to render the entire city without loading screens, unless they're planning on releasing it for this current gen of consoles too. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 17:06    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
How is Deus Ex not Cyberpunk? Cyberpunk typically (and yes, do look at Neuromancer) involves megacorporations running the world rather than governments [check], lots of high tech [check] but shit living standards for the general population [check], often some form of AI [check], a protagonist who gets fucked up (physically) in one way or another [check], often also lots of addiction in the whole world (drugs or otherwise) [check], heavy focus on hacking soft-/hardware [check]..


Really?


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 17:11    Post subject:
I see what Vurt is getting at, with the cyberpunk culture, but I still very much class DX as cyberpunk itself - exactly as Werelds listed.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 17:15    Post subject:
There weren't punks left in Human Revolution because Jensen took care of them:

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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 17:15    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Roger_Young wrote:
vurt wrote:
Hopefully they'll get the setting right for the genre, and not like Deus Ex and most other ""cyberpunk" games.. Cyberpunk = "low-lifes and hi-tech" Very Happy

How do you imagine a cyberpunk ambiance should be?


Like Neuromancer which defined it. It's supposed to be about low-lifes / "punks" (it's called cyberpunk for a reason).

So, likely to your point, every fantasy game had to be like the Tolkien world that is the spring or the fantasy genre.
Some people really are stuck and can't see that there are many different approaches in on theme..
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 17:17    Post subject:
Unless I am remembering wrong, there were plenty of punks in HR.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 18:10    Post subject:
This should be their first DX11 title, let's see what they have in store for us Smile


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 19:48    Post subject:
nikman wrote:

So, likely to your point, every fantasy game had to be like the Tolkien world that is the spring or the fantasy genre.
Some people really are stuck and can't see that there are many different approaches in on theme..


What's the point of calling something "Cyberpunk" if it doesnt contain what defines it (it should be called Sci-Fi instead). I could make many similar examples with music. Sub genres exists for a reason.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 19:52    Post subject:
@vurt

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cy·ber·punk/ˈsībərˌpəNGk/
Noun:
A genre of science fiction set in a lawless subculture of an oppressive society dominated by computer technology.


And;

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Cyberpunk plots often center on a conflict among hackers, artificial intelligences, and megacorporations, and tend to be set in a near-future Earth.


That's exactly what cyberpunk is, it's what Shadowrun run is, it's what Johnny Mnemonic is and, to be completely accurate, it's what Deus Ex is. We may quibble about definitions .. but DX definitely falls into BOTH of those ^^ descriptions.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 20:01    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
This should be their first DX11 title, let's see what they have in store for us Smile


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Consolitis you can already check what they have in store here: http://www.gog.com/



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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 20:02    Post subject:
@ sabin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk

"noted for its focus on "high tech and low life"

otherwise it's just sci-fi, with cyberpunk influences Wink

I wouldnt call System Shock cyberpunk either, even if it has many influences Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 20:05    Post subject:
Like I said, we can quibble all we want ... DX still fits into all known descriptions of the genre. You don't like that fact, fine, but it doesn't change it. I consider DX to be cyberpunk so that's all that really matters to me Smile

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Oh and I'm not alone either. CyberpunkReview;

http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/cyberpunk-games/deus-ex/
http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/cyberpunk-games/deus-ex-human-revolution-from-our-reviewer-forums/
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 20:11    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Like I said, we can quibble all we want ... DX still fits into all known descriptions of the genre.


Yeah, except the one main thing which defines the genre, which is even in the genre name if you missed it Smile Buuut whatever Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 20:39    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
@vurt

Quote:

cy·ber·punk/ˈsībərˌpəNGk/
Noun:
A genre of science fiction set in a lawless subculture of an oppressive society dominated by computer technology.


And;

Quote:

Cyberpunk plots often center on a conflict among hackers, artificial intelligences, and megacorporations, and tend to be set in a near-future Earth.


That's exactly what cyberpunk is, it's what Shadowrun run is, it's what Johnny Mnemonic is and, to be completely accurate, it's what Deus Ex is. We may quibble about definitions .. but DX definitely falls into BOTH of those ^^ descriptions.

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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 20:42    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Yeah, except the one main thing which defines the genre, which is even in the genre name if you missed it Smile Buuut whatever Very Happy


I'm more inclined to say defined, since cyberpunk originated from an era of punk and rebellion itself. The only thing "missing" from DX in regards to punk.. is that you, as Denton, aren't in the middle of the low-class, low-life culture. It still exists though, as you see and hear throughout the game, same with DXHR.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 20:49    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
There weren't punks left in Human Revolution because Jensen took care of them:



brilliant. I remember trying that while playing, had my lulz and then reloaded the latest savegame Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Oct 2012 20:50    Post subject:
inz wrote:
Your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired.

Only if you take it literaly Wink
It's interpretation is an other matter and if you can read between the lines of both sentences, maybe you can find your desires satisfied. Smile
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