[OTHER] 2nd hand PS3!
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2012 12:44    Post subject:
Overall, the 360 is the best console out of all 3 IMHO. Plus Kinect is really nice if you like family games.

But for exclusives, the PS3 is better. If you don't have any of the 3 consoles, the 360 is the best one to buy, definitely, I think pretty much everyone on this forum will tell you the same and that's actually why we told you to buy a RGH 360.


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azzman




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2012 13:06    Post subject:
This thread is crazy Laughing New console, the only option is a 360. Piracy, RGH. End of story. Close thread
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2012 13:25    Post subject:
cheat2win wrote:
highstuff wrote:
if you buy rgh make sure you get nanddump and cpu key, that saves you the trouble in dumping it yourself, you require the nanddump and cpu key to update for future dashboardsd


If for some reason the dude doesn't have it, is it easily obtainable?
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2012 13:29    Post subject:
The dude will have it, since it's most likely him who will modify your console.

But yeah anyway it's easily obtainable, I myself never had it, and I still update fine.


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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2012 13:54    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
The dude will have it, since it's most likely him who will modify your console.

But yeah anyway it's easily obtainable, I myself never had it, and I still update fine.


Good. Thanks. Smile
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 04:43    Post subject:
I'm close to buy an used Xbox360 Elite 120GB, ready to play backups from the HDD for 100€. Assuming it to be in decent and working conditions, it is not a bad deal at all right?

And although most of my doubts have been answered here, I still would like to go over them again just to be sure:
1. Will the hack (JTAG/RGH) be possible to update easily?
2. Being the console hacked, will I be prevented from connecting to Xbox Live?
3. While being blocked from Live, can I still access the Internet? Or will all online capacities be off-limits?
4. With all online capacities blocked, how will the games be updated (normal patches and free DLCs)? Will I need to search for them online (on my PC)?
5. Will I be able to transfer the games from my PC to the console HDD, and play them virtually right away?
6. Regarding the HDD, if I run out of space, can I just plug-in a normal external HDD, or will I have to buy an internal Xbox specific HDD?
7. About the Xbox360 itself, is the Elite model prone to get RROD'd?

Smile
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 04:50    Post subject:
1. Yes
2. You cannot connect to Xbox Live but FSD Link which allows you to play multiplayer with pirated players
3. Yes you can.
4. FSD does the title updates or just do it manually DLC manually
5. Yes
6. Highly recommend External since it allows easy transfer of files (Remember the limit is 2TB)
7. If its not Jasper then yes.


Just get Slim not elite its almost cheap as $99 and get it RGH
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 04:56    Post subject:
1. Sure, once you know the drill.
2. yes
3. nope - (I guess i was wrong on this one when thinking about it.)
4. applications such as FSD uses third party sites which are hosting the updates to be downloaded automatically when you select the game you wish to update.
5. you can use FTP and Samba. I prefer just using Samba so i don't have to use any programs. If you want to try it, be sure to activate it in FSD2 or 3 in settings and use "//xbox360" just as you would to access someone on a lan.
6. You use the internal to store savegames and dlc's. If you like to get the most of your games by getting dlc's i recommend you look at ebay for cheap 250gb internal drives. They aren't original, but they do the job. I have an external Western Digital 2TB harddrive and i don't see myself running out of space anytime soon. If you wish to have another external hard drive you should copy everything besides your games to the other harddrive also.
7. I'm not sure, but you won't lose your games or anything if that happens, and it won't happen soon. So i'm sure you made a worth wile investment.

Hope this clears up certain questions.


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 04:56    Post subject:
Ninja'd Sad
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 05:03    Post subject:
NFOAC wrote:
1. Yes
2. You cannot connect to Xbox Live but FSD Link which allows you to play multiplayer with pirated players
3. Yes you can.
4. FSD does the title updates or just do it manually DLC manually
5. Yes
6. Highly recommend External since it allows easy transfer of files (Remember the limit is 2TB)
7. If its not Jasper then yes.


Thank you. Smile


NFOAC wrote:
Just get Slim not elite its almost cheap as $99 and get it RGH


Since I prefer to buy locally and in a hand-to-hand deal, that's not really an option. Sad
Either way, where would I get one without spending more than 100€, including post taxes? Confused

Stormwolf wrote:
1. Sure, once you know the drill.
2. yes
3. nope - (I guess i was wrong on this one when thinking about it.)
4. applications such as FSD uses third party sites which are hosting the updates to be downloaded automatically when you select the game you wish to update.
5. you can use FTP and Samba. I prefer just using Samba so i don't have to use any programs. If you want to try it, be sure to activate it in FSD2 or 3 in settings and use "//xbox360" just as you would to access someone on a lan.
6. You use the internal to store savegames and dlc's. If you like to get the most of your games by getting dlc's i recommend you look at ebay for cheap 250gb internal drives. They aren't original, but they do the job. I have an external Western Digital 2TB harddrive and i don't see myself running out of space anytime soon. If you wish to have another external hard drive you should copy everything besides your games to the other harddrive also.
7. I'm not sure, but you won't lose your games or anything if that happens, and it won't happen soon. So i'm sure you made a worth wile investment.

Hope this clears up certain questions.

Stormwolf wrote:
Ninja'd Sad


Hehe. Thank you anyway. Razz

It's always cool to have confirmation regarding this kind of thing. Smile
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 05:52    Post subject:
I would not purchase a Elite rather arcade. Why don't u get a slim and then get it rgh
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 05:59    Post subject:
Money. Simple as that. If I could spend some more, I probably would. Alas, I can't.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 06:15    Post subject:
Try to get arcade instead of elite they are cheap
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 07:08    Post subject:
Cheap or not, I'm assuming they would end up costing more with the shipping. Being on the limited budget I am on, I really can't afford the extra post office taxes.

Besides, if I weren't lucky enough to find an already hacked arcade console, and since I lack both the experience and hardware necessary to do it myself, I would need to pay someone else to do it for me.

Which means that if I found a cheap arcade for 100€, plus the shipping which could go for something like 50€ and the hacking that I assume would be another 50€, if that, that means I would need to spend at least 200€. Well, if I can get a console, for half that price without the hassle of hacking it myself, I'll take it. And even if the Slim was already hacked, as I said, I simply can't afford the post office taxes.

Smile

The only thing in the Elite that bothers me is the lack of wireless. Sad
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 09:52    Post subject:
Forgot to ask:

8. Will the hack still be easily updatable even if I don't have the original NAND and CPU key?
9. Is the Elite really noisy? For those with both an Elite and a phat PS2, how does it compare? The same, louder or quieter?
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 10:12    Post subject:
9. No but you can produce it there are tools available easy enough.
10. Dont know
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 10:23    Post subject:
Thank you. Smile

And regarding the NAND and CPU keys: are those tools physical or virtual? Confused
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 10:33    Post subject:
It does not make that much noise the noise maker on xbox fat is the crappy dvd player and with rgh ,you obvious are not going to make use of the dvd drive. , not really sure what you mean with that last qeuestion , but when you press the eject button of dvd drive xbox will boot xell and then it will show you your cpu key... to dump the nand you need an specific tool for that.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 10:36    Post subject:
cheat2win wrote:
Thank you. Smile

And regarding the NAND and CPU keys: are those tools physical or virtual? Confused

A software.
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 10:44    Post subject:
highstuff wrote:
It does not make that much noise the noise maker on xbox fat is the crappy dvd player and with rgh ,you obvious are not going to make use of the dvd drive. , not really sure what you mean with that last qeuestion , but when you press the eject button of dvd drive xbox will boot xell and then it will show you your cpu key... to dump the nand you need an specific tool for that.


Another reason to run the games from the HDD. Razz And thank you. Smile

NFOAC wrote:
cheat2win wrote:
Thank you. Smile

And regarding the NAND and CPU keys: are those tools physical or virtual? Confused

A software.


Thanks once again. Razz
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highfe




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 11:52    Post subject:
You can ask the modder if he can burn you NAND and CPU key to a CD or email to you? How much money you want to spend for the xbox anyway? for 200€ i can get you a brandnew slim with RGH2 hack Smile
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 12:03    Post subject:
highfe wrote:
You can ask the modder if he can burn you NAND and CPU key to a CD or email to you? How much money you want to spend for the xbox anyway? for 200€ i can get you a brandnew slim with RGH2 hack Smile


Yeah, I'll have to ask him.

How much money I want to spend? The least possible. Laughing

Seriously tho, not much beyond 100€. It's not that I'm cheap or anything, it's just how life is especially when a console isn't a basic need. I know could wait a few more months, but I really am in the mood for it now. Razz
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highfe




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 12:28    Post subject:
Hmm. Good luck with that. J Browman
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 12:39    Post subject:
Okay
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 14:15    Post subject:
Doubt you would ever find a jtag or rgh for 100€, whoever is selling this to you sounds fishy to me.

200€ from highfe sounds fair enough to me though since it s brand new.


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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 14:37    Post subject:
Yeah, I know. That's why I'll ask him if I can test it first before paying, or otherwise I won't be buying it.

And yes it's fair enough, but the problem as I said numerous times before is: I just don't have it. Laughing From 100€ to 200€ + shipping fees, it's just too big of a leap for me right now.

Oh and I forgot to say: he was asking for 150€, but I bargained down to 100€. Better than nothing. Smile
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 15:19    Post subject:
You are taking a risk you must know it would well run on 1st instance but go on rrod after some weeks it could be one of those reflows.
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 15:24    Post subject:
as him what model xbox it is , it could be an Zephyr or Falcon ,or in the best case an Jasper.
Falcons are relative safe , Jasper is immune for rrod. Zephyr is the oldest model you do not want to buy this one for 100 euro. he could put old model in elite xbox case
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highfe




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 15:41    Post subject:
Do yourself a favor and save a little more money, trust me Twisted Evil
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Dec 2012 15:41    Post subject:
The easy way to spot which model it is is to look at what the PSU cable looks like (google for the differences). Jasper, Zephyr, Falcon and Xenon all have differences.

As highstuff said, don't buy Zephyr/Xenon, although Falcon can RROD too. Personally i wouldn't buy a falcon, but for 100€, why not... I had bought 2 jtagged xenon in the past, and they both RROD. Like you they were tempting because cheap.

Eventually, I prefered to hunt for a 2nd hand Jasper, and jtag it myself, not only it was real cheap because I didn't buy it all pre modded and everything and found the console by myself, but also it rocks solid. Jasper FTW !


EDIT : as said above, save a little money if it's not Jasper or maybe Falcon, because in the end i lost more money being cheap with the RROD rather than buying a Jasper since the beginning !
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