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RainyDay




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 16:28    Post subject:
Soo i decided to try out different classes after my maurader.
Leveled a shadow and a ranger to 20.. but.. the both feel meh.. especially the shadow can't kill a thing..

Now im rolling a fire summoner witch and its' a rofllol mode (aside being 1-2 shoted by bosses even on normal with me having zero defence xD). Sо yeah im wondering if im that lazy tо go dual totems.. Finally got my skeleton totem up and running.. infinite mat shield mode Very Happy


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Hellifant




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 17:04    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
so by losing exp / death in mercilles (15% ? ) combined with shit party loot system and adding the docks, which is the only map in where you can farm experience without dying by random and various crap, leaded me back to diablo 3.

my eyes are finally resting from all the shinny shit (in party) which cover the whole screen and beyond in poe. i can safetly say that if i spend 1 h in the docks, 30 minute i canot see the mobs/players/ground. only shiny gfx shit flying around.

managed to get to level 64, i finished 4 "end game" maps without again a single usefull item to drop. or at least one close to my desires.
farming for end game maps is a plain shit and boring occupation. i got 2 maps in about 8 h i think, and the other 2 from maps generated.
end game maps should not be fucking rare world drop. eventually only the uniques ones. white ones should be common, not like gcp. or rarer even than gcp.

will play again when they at least will change looting rules (instanced, + 10 seconds added to timer, whatever). and the drop rate of maps.









you know when someone´s been ruined from D3 lootsystem.FFA loot on public games? Cant get end game gear in 2 days? Game must be shit
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frogster




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 17:10    Post subject:
i'm playing a glass canon range caster. i canot get to the items reserved for me in time, if i want to keep the dps high, and not to break fights every time an item drop. even if im not glass canon, i will not get to close to fights.

lets say in a party of two people i do 70% of dps and get 0 drops, a tank do 30% dps, get 100% drops. how exactly this is a fair system for a ranger/caster which is just doing his job ?

and clearing inferno in diablo taked me shitload of more time vs finishing the whole acts on merciless in poe. so be sure that im not expecting end game gear in few days.
but i'm sort of expecting if im for the first time (or 4 time) on a level 66 map, and my gear is level (-)50, to find something like a small upgrade at least.

ah, and how about another side of the the retarded loot system when someone, summoner preferably stays on your reserved loot, and you are spending time clicking on him, or summons, instead of ther item ?


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RainyDay




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 17:14    Post subject:
the loot system in path of exile is horrible to be honest..

There should at least be a roll option.. or an option to increase the timer for items being reserved for more than 5 seconds . I hate partying the more i play..


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frogster




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 17:18    Post subject:
rd, roll option will only clutter the screen, and all people will roll need anyway in most cases. but hey, at least you will get a chance to roll for something.
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flipp




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 17:58    Post subject:
There's just too much trash on the ground. There should be at least options which items I want to see (items with sockets >=3 etc.). Overall I can't complain, it's f2p and not a 60€+ game.

Anyone trading http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Spell_Totem ? Smile
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locke89




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Location: Poland
PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 18:09    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
so by losing exp / death in mercilles (15% ? ) combined with shit party loot system and adding the docks, which is the only map in where you can farm experience without dying by random and various crap, leaded me back to diablo 3.

my eyes are finally resting from all the shinny shit (in party) which cover the whole screen and beyond in poe. i can safetly say that if i spend 1 h in the docks, 30 minute i canot see the mobs/players/ground. only shiny gfx shit flying around.

managed to get to level 64, i finished 4 "end game" maps without again a single usefull item to drop. or at least one close to my desires.
farming for end game maps is a plain shit and boring occupation. i got 2 maps in about 8 h i think, and the other 2 from maps generated.
end game maps should not be fucking rare world drop. eventually only the uniques ones. white ones should be common, not like gcp. or rarer even than gcp.

will play again when they at least will change looting rules (instanced, + 10 seconds added to timer, whatever). and the drop rate of maps.


I liked that part when you say you can't find good drops and then you say you're going back to D3, rofl Smile
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Valtiel




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 18:12    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
so by losing exp / death in mercilles (15% ? ) combined with shit party loot system and adding the docks, which is the only map in where you can farm experience without dying by random and various crap, leaded me back to diablo 3.

my eyes are finally resting from all the shinny shit (in party) which cover the whole screen and beyond in poe. i can safetly say that if i spend 1 h in the docks, 30 minute i canot see the mobs/players/ground. only shiny gfx shit flying around.

managed to get to level 64, i finished 4 "end game" maps without again a single usefull item to drop. or at least one close to my desires.
farming for end game maps is a plain shit and boring occupation. i got 2 maps in about 8 h i think, and the other 2 from maps generated.
end game maps should not be fucking rare world drop. eventually only the uniques ones. white ones should be common, not like gcp. or rarer even than gcp.

will play again when they at least will change looting rules (instanced, + 10 seconds added to timer, whatever). and the drop rate of maps.


2/10, nice try btw
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 18:13    Post subject:
locke89 wrote:
frogster wrote:
so by losing exp / death in mercilles (15% ? ) combined with shit party loot system and adding the docks, which is the only map in where you can farm experience without dying by random and various crap, leaded me back to diablo 3.

my eyes are finally resting from all the shinny shit (in party) which cover the whole screen and beyond in poe. i can safetly say that if i spend 1 h in the docks, 30 minute i canot see the mobs/players/ground. only shiny gfx shit flying around.

managed to get to level 64, i finished 4 "end game" maps without again a single usefull item to drop. or at least one close to my desires.
farming for end game maps is a plain shit and boring occupation. i got 2 maps in about 8 h i think, and the other 2 from maps generated.
end game maps should not be fucking rare world drop. eventually only the uniques ones. white ones should be common, not like gcp. or rarer even than gcp.

will play again when they at least will change looting rules (instanced, + 10 seconds added to timer, whatever). and the drop rate of maps.


I liked that part when you say you can't find good drops and then you say you're going back to D3, rofl Smile


i find more gold to buy better items in d3, then i would find items, period, in poe Smile
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Acer




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 18:17    Post subject:
Decided to roll an alt to my crit witch, its a work in progress but im thinking of something like captain america, meaning someone that does huge damage with their shield. Im gonna go elemental damage, coupled with as many increased block nodes I can find. Using the templar.

With shield bash I can run into a pack of mobs, let them hit me and then let tempest shield and molten shell do the rest.

Ive heard mixed feelings conserning resolute technique but I might get that. Also curious about elemental equilibrium. You could hit enemies with say fire and then let tempest etc do the work.

Also lightning strike is a must, and some good attack against single strong mob.


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frogster




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 18:18    Post subject:
locke89 wrote:
frogster wrote:
so by losing exp / death in mercilles (15% ? ) combined with shit party loot system and adding the docks, which is the only map in where you can farm experience without dying by random and various crap, leaded me back to diablo 3.

my eyes are finally resting from all the shinny shit (in party) which cover the whole screen and beyond in poe. i can safetly say that if i spend 1 h in the docks, 30 minute i canot see the mobs/players/ground. only shiny gfx shit flying around.

managed to get to level 64, i finished 4 "end game" maps without again a single usefull item to drop. or at least one close to my desires.
farming for end game maps is a plain shit and boring occupation. i got 2 maps in about 8 h i think, and the other 2 from maps generated.
end game maps should not be fucking rare world drop. eventually only the uniques ones. white ones should be common, not like gcp. or rarer even than gcp.

will play again when they at least will change looting rules (instanced, + 10 seconds added to timer, whatever). and the drop rate of maps.


I liked that part when you say you can't find good drops and then you say you're going back to D3, rofl Smile


where is said that shit drops sent me back to d3 ?

is clearly stated : exp loss on dying which led to endless docks farming, shit loot SYSTEM, which i believe i explained just fine what issues i have with.

Valtiel, try harder. at least add some comments.
is not like there is not a 500 page topic on poe forum about how shit ffa is.
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Airwolf




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 20:43    Post subject:
I'm running with around 80% increased chance to drop rare items. Need one more level to be able to socket item rarity gem.

Even now, before the gem, i have noticed much better loot now. Gems, orbs, decent amount of yellow items and a lot of blue ones. I also have 5 unique items so far (Queen's Decree, Redbeak, Kaom's sign, Perandus Blazon, Shavronne's Pace).

All of those i got playing solo on default settings while playing lighting strike + tempest templar.
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pillermann




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 21:44    Post subject:
I only grouped once for Merveil and never again. If D3 did one thing right it's assigning every player his own loot.
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CaptainLove




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Feb 2013 23:39    Post subject:
pillermann wrote:
I only grouped once for Merveil and never again. If D3 did one thing right it's assigning every player his own loot.


Party with some friends who know how to share Wink.
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Badrien




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 02:28    Post subject:
Loving the game!

The vendor system isnt too easy to get into, all them recipes, but It beats the regular gold system for sure so far


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W123




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 07:20    Post subject:
I agree on the party/loot system. Sucks ass.

Plus no way to teleport to your party members seamlessly like you can in D3.
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TheAngel




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 22:13    Post subject:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/392

Quote:

It's important to us that Path of Exile has a cut-throat feel where players are not only competing against monsters, but also their fellow players. We do not feel it is an option to arbitrarily hide items from players who have not been allocated them.
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flipp




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 22:27    Post subject:
yeah, it's "oldschool" in every aspect Very Happy
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 22:31    Post subject:
its just shit for ranged vs melee characters ...
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TheAngel




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 22:40    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
its just shit for ranged vs melee characters ...

No its not, the time on the timer is calculated by the amount of distance it would take you to run there.

Quote:
- The allocation time is intended to be very small (enough time to compensate for a little latency, reaction time and travel distance). We're thinking a base time of something in the order of 1 second when standing next to the item.
- The time would be increased by the time it takes for the character to run to the item. An item allocated to a ranged player might unallocate after two seconds, for example.
- It's important that the time is low enough that the player can only get the item if they are paying attention and make an effort to immediately grab it.


So in other words, you guys are too slow Smile
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 22:43    Post subject:
so ranged chars have to stop attacking all the time in order to grab loot ... while melee just clicks next to him and keeps on fighting.

Yeah, great system ...
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TheAngel




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 22:48    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
so ranged chars have to stop attacking all the time in order to grab loot ... while melee just clicks next to him and keeps on fighting.

Yeah, great system ...


You dont get it do you Smile
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 22:49    Post subject:
make rules before you start killing stuff, kick the ninjas, easy ... , yes even your holier then holy blizzard had ninjas in wow and shared loot ....
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 22:53    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
so ranged chars have to stop attacking all the time in order to grab loot ... while melee just clicks next to him and keeps on fighting.

Yeah, great system ...


Seeing as ranged doesn't have the risk of getting surrounded by melee and dying near instantly, I'd say it balances out. Wink
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Areius




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 23:56    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
so ranged chars have to stop attacking all the time in order to grab loot ... while melee just clicks next to him and keeps on fighting.

Yeah, great system ...

Reaction


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W123




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 01:00    Post subject:
Keep fighting? What are you talking about... everyone stops fighting and and waits to spam left click to pick everything up on boss fights Laughing
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flipp




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 05:03    Post subject:
Was the same in D2 lol
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 05:19    Post subject:
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frogster




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 07:22    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
make rules before you start killing stuff, kick the ninjas, easy ... , yes even your holier then holy blizzard had ninjas in wow and shared loot ....


how can you tell who the ninja is, when 5 people rush to get an orb/yellow ?

and you kick one, just to get another. and another. and another.

and whats the point to kick a ninja after the boss is down when it does not matter anyway ?
people ninjaing stuff are not the issue (because is inherent in human nature). the shit loot system is.

and in wow (which i don't know why you bring in the discution because it have nothing to do with a arpg) you had at least the chance to roll for it, and it support different types of loot methods. and yet, people are still pissed anyway when it happened.

Quote:
Was the same in D2 lol


my alt space variant pickup bot had the most downloads from all my scripts.
with ctrl space town portal/town on the second place.


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W123




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2013 07:31    Post subject:
yeah, i remember pickit. I remember sorcs could just spam telekinesis too and get everything in the blink of an eye.


*kills Diablo* *CD spins to play Diablo's death animation*


uhh where'd my loot go?? Laughing
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