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Sin317
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 12:26    Post subject:
3 TB SSD for 500 € ?

euhm .. how about .. no ?
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 12:32    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
3 TB SSD for 500 € ?

euhm .. how about .. no ?


eh, i mistyped.
i meant 3x 1 tb ssd for ca. 500 euro each.
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flipp




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 14:40    Post subject:
keewee23 wrote:


Edit: And i surely don't like that speed of ssd degrades after some period of using.


Afaik, the newer models are not affected by this that much like the first models. The cons are clearly the price and that they slow down if you using too much space. It's said you can't completly fill them up, because then they slow down. IF you have the extra money, get one. Otherwise I agree, the money is more of use if spent for a gfx card(upgrade).
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 14:48    Post subject:
well, about the filling up, HDD are also not meant to be filled up completely. You usually leave at least 5-10% free (alltho with bigger HD sizes, this is probably too much).
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 14:48    Post subject:
keewee23 wrote:
120 euros for waiting few minutes? no thx. Add another 120 euros and get gtx660, in my book that's more important type of speed.

Except it's not you saving minutes. It's your PC becoming snappy at everything it does. 95% of all slowdowns during general use of a PC (and I'm including Macs in this, which are even more prone to this) is due to disk I/O. With an SSD, it can handle so many I/Os per second that not only does it boot faster and load applications faster, *everything* is just faster. Everything that has to come from disk is quicker.

And no, a 660 wouldn't be a bigger upgrade overall. For games, yes, but for everything else that 660 does fuck all.

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Edit: And i surely don't like that speed of ssd degrades after some period of using.

Even early models don't degrade like that. They "degrade" in the sense that instead of 10 years, you get 5 years out of them under heavy use. I dare you to show me a mechanical drive's performance after 5 years and call it "acceptable". An SSD after 5 years will still be fast, let alone acceptable.

My "broken", "bad" and "slow" Vertex 2 is doing mighty fine after 28 months, not a single sign of degradation of any form.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 15:10    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
keewee23 wrote:
120 euros for waiting few minutes? no thx. Add another 120 euros and get gtx660, in my book that's more important type of speed.

Except it's not you saving minutes. It's your PC becoming snappy at everything it does. 95% of all slowdowns during general use of a PC (and I'm including Macs in this, which are even more prone to this) is due to disk I/O. With an SSD, it can handle so many I/Os per second that not only does it boot faster and load applications faster, *everything* is just faster. Everything that has to come from disk is quicker.

And no, a 660 wouldn't be a bigger upgrade overall. For games, yes, but for everything else that 660 does fuck all.

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Edit: And i surely don't like that speed of ssd degrades after some period of using.

Even early models don't degrade like that. They "degrade" in the sense that instead of 10 years, you get 5 years out of them under heavy use. I dare you to show me a mechanical drive's performance after 5 years and call it "acceptable". An SSD after 5 years will still be fast, let alone acceptable.

My "broken", "bad" and "slow" Vertex 2 is doing mighty fine after 28 months, not a single sign of degradation of any form.


on my config, i5-3570k, 8 gb 1600 mh, hdd spinpoint f3 1 tb, i really dont have any slowdowns, turning windows on off, going to device manager, control panel, firefox, eveything in casual work is snappy, except boot time and loading times in games, offcourse extracting 15 gb game take ages to exctract, but not giving money for 3-4 minutes of faster extracting, i can wait Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 15:17    Post subject:
Like it was already said, people who have used an SSD would hate the idea of going back to a mechanical drive for their OS.

HDD's are the biggest bottleneck in your PC.


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flipp




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 15:17    Post subject:
Of course your Fiat Uno is good enough for you, if you never drove a Ferrari Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 17:44    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
Like it was already said, people who have used an SSD would hate the idea of going back to a mechanical drive for their OS.

HDD's are the biggest bottleneck in your PC.


Pretty much this.

If you never had it you wont make a big deal about getting one. Once you experienced the chance of going back to a mechanical one for OS is quite low. And yes I COULD live with slower speeds I just don't want to anymore
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 19:00    Post subject:
I couldn't. I worked with the mechanical drive in my MBP for exactly 4 days until I stuffed my Vertex 4 in. Mechanical drives are just excruciatingly slow.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 19:06    Post subject:
I just realized that OP posted a pun in the title, and no one recognized Sad


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 19:51    Post subject:
SSD + Win8 = uberfast boot!
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 15:48    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
I just realized that OP posted a pun in the title, and no one recognized Sad


Sad Sad Sad Sad and now im reduced to 'OP' Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 20:02    Post subject:
zipfero wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
I just realized that OP posted a pun in the title, and no one recognized Sad


Sad Sad Sad Sad and now im reduced to 'OP' Sad


Sorry, I'm browsing imgur too much :'(


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 22:54    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
zipfero wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
I just realized that OP posted a pun in the title, and no one recognized Sad


Sad Sad Sad Sad and now im reduced to 'OP' Sad


Sorry, I'm browsing imgur too much :'(


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