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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 14:31    Post subject:
Axeleration wrote:


"I'm not familiar with that specific question..."
Laughing . At least some different type of questions


wtf, why isn't that in my sub box at yt? Sad


Btw, this should be watched after:


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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 16:10    Post subject:
Axeleration wrote:
http://youtu.be/6RtSGFryKwo

"I'm not familiar with that specific question..."
Laughing . At least some different type of questions



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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 16:35    Post subject:
"We have a vision of the future and its the right one so if you are cool you will follow us into the digital age or be forever stuck in the present (PS4)."

- Microsofts motto

Lets ignore the cloud stuff for this argument and just concentrate on their all-digital game distribution platform.
And let it be said that Microsoft is not picking a fight only with Sony, this goes against Steam too.

"It was only once Steam had a digital marketplace with DRM that was locked down to prevent sharing that they could do super discounted shit."

- Microsoft employee

This is the most important thing, how will Microsoft ever expect to have sales with prices as low as Steam sales as long as they have a monopolistic position on their own closed system?
Will this competition be cross-platform and drive prices down across all 3 main gaming platforms? (XBL <-> Origin/GoG/DD/Steam etc. <-> PSN)
Or will the following features act as justification for Microsoft to not lower game prices or have any kinds of big sales?

Lets concentrate on these other supposed features and assume the best case that ALL of them will be implemented in Microsofts ecosystem within a year after launch:

- Sharing a game with a friend and maybe even play concurrently
- Trading in games for other games
- Option to give up license of a game and transfer it ONCE
- Selling games digitally to other people

This IS better than steam. But ultimately how big of an advantage will that be?
Its all digital, something that is in flux and can change, both Sony and Gaben could adapt within weeks, or months, can't they?
And poof goes Microsofts great advantage.
Was that worth trying to force change on people and alienating most of them?
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 19:06    Post subject:
Anyone know if there of the same game(s) that launch on both consoles this year so that a comparison can be done by the likes of Digital Foundry or Anandtech.
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 19:09    Post subject:
yes
EA games
UBI games
EDIOS games


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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 19:15    Post subject:
Quote:
In talking to a developer who wished to remain anonymous, gamers will see a difference on Day One when they compare third party PS4 games to Xbox One head-to-head.
The developer told me the PS4 is 40 percent more powerful than Xbox One and games like Call of Duty Ghosts will be noticeably different out of the gate.
src


Digital Foundry will tear the Xbone versions apart Laughing
Also looking forward to E3 vs. Launch comparison of X1 titles, I wonder if MS cheated on Ryse and Forza.


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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 19:16    Post subject:
If the developer said CoD of all games will look much better on PS4 then he can't be trusted.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 19:20    Post subject:
Jack Tretton also said as much during the interview - ps4 is more powerful and we will see the difference early on 3rd party launch titles.
In addition to being the weaker console Xbone games also have to be coded for a VM that runs on a seperate OS while the PS4 coding goes "directly to the metal".
I wonder how much difference it makes.
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 19:25    Post subject:
Well if the CEO of Sony Entertainment America said that Laughing Razz

It's common sense that the PS4 is more powerful, but out of all multiplatform games, the anonymous developer brought up CoD as an example of a game that will look much better on PS4? Really? CoD? The least demanding of all upcoming games? Okay. Laughing


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 19:45    Post subject:
What are you trolling for? Infinity Ward said that Ghosts is using an all new engine. It's still built on Quake 3, but it's all new as in, nobody has seen this version before! I think Infinity Ward know what they're talking about, consoltrolltis, Modern Warfare 3 was state of the art after all.
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 19:47    Post subject:
Failed Troll


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 20:24    Post subject:
one more.......

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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 20:31    Post subject:
Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 21:18    Post subject:
dog-god wrote:
Anyone know if there of the same game(s) that launch on both consoles this year so that a comparison can be done by the likes of Digital Foundry or Anandtech.


Such comparisons won't be necessary. Right now, the X360 has a practical advantage while the PS3 has a theoretical advantage. It was interesting to see how well developers managed to use the Cell SPEs to compensate for the weaker GPU.

In the next generation, it will be boring. The PS4 will just win before the battle even started. It will be like Xbox vs PS2 Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 01:33    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 01:41    Post subject:
dog-god wrote:
Was this posted Smile

http://www.p4rgaming.com/microsoft-confirms-xbox-one-will-only-work-in-21-states-in-the-us-at-launch/
Holy shit, they can't even properly launch this crap in all of the US states, let alone in other countries


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 01:50    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
dog-god wrote:
Was this posted Smile

http://www.p4rgaming.com/microsoft-confirms-xbox-one-will-only-work-in-21-states-in-the-us-at-launch/
Holy shit, they can't even properly launch this crap in all of the US states, let alone in other countries


That's a satire article like The Onion, just look at the other news links... "Man Who Finally Finished Making Sense of Metal Gear Canon Kills Himself Before MGSV Releases "

"E3 Roundtable: Good Graphics and Cutscenes Can Easily Replace Gameplay"


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 01:52    Post subject:
That site is a VG satire site, haha Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 01:54    Post subject:
misfits138 wrote:
tonizito wrote:
dog-god wrote:
Was this posted Smile

http://www.p4rgaming.com/microsoft-confirms-xbox-one-will-only-work-in-21-states-in-the-us-at-launch/
Holy shit, they can't even properly launch this crap in all of the US states, let alone in other countries


After reading that article I'm pretty sure it's satire, Microsoft can't be that insane.
Argh you are right, didn't even realize it was p4rgaming, they're known to be kind of a videogame news onion Sad

Was in such a hurry to bash some more microsoft ass that I've missed it Embarassed

EDIT: Nice edit sabine Cool Face


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 02:00    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
EDIT: Nice edit sabine Cool Face


Aye, I hadn't noticed the URL at first and was all "yeah, official source please. I want to see a source before I laugh myself into hysteria" - then I noticed the URL. It's The Onion for videogaming news Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 02:17    Post subject:
That part about their reasons made it pretty clear. Never heard of this site, but MS being concerned about obesity and social welfare? BWAHAHAHA!
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 02:24    Post subject:
Finally a gaming site worth to be visited *bookmarks Play4Real*
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 13:52    Post subject:
DF has a nice feature: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-xbox-one

Forza, Ryse, Killer Instict, Project Shark, Fifa 14 ran natively on Xbone.
Crimson Dragon, Dead Rising 3, Battlefield 4 ran on "PC debugging environment" aka PC.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 18:57    Post subject:
Microsoft defends Xbox One $500 price point--"We're over-delivering value

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"We're over-delivering value against other choices I think consumers can get. Any modern product these days you look at it [and] $499 isn't a ridiculous price point. We're delivering thousands of dollars of value to people, so I think they're going to love it when they use it."




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 19:00    Post subject:
Obvious idiotic numbers aside, by that logic, they expect every single sold unit to also result in hundreds of games bought so they can see some profit. Is there an inch of intact flesh left of MS's foot?
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 20:10    Post subject:
Superdae's passworded torrent's password is: y8e4a4r@w9o0o#dtrance apparently.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2013 20:19    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Superdae's passworded torrent's password is: y8e4a4r@w9o0o#dtrance apparently.


any public forum/discussion about that torrent ? Smile.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jun 2013 00:22    Post subject:
^ none that I know off.

In other news Microsoft "thinks" the Xbone will be faster than the PS4, because Sony's machine will overheat with all dat GDDR5 RAM: http://gamingbolt.com/major-nelson-addresses-drm-concerns-silencing-don-mattrick-and-how-ps4-isnt-a-threat#S1VTCM15Fk2P6I6y.99

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It also looks at the PS4 as “Xbox 360 version 2″ due to the lack of social and multi-tasking features. The company doesn’t even see Sony as a threat. Even better, it believes that the PS4′s graphics RAM will run hotter, besides not being as optimized as the Xbox One. Thus leading to both being evenly matched or, believe it or not, the Xbox One performing ahead.


Laughing


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jun 2013 00:26    Post subject:
These fucks are completely delusional, holy shit

What happens if (when?) it falls flat on it's face as a set top box/multimedia centre while lagging behind the PS4 as a dedicated console?


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