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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:18 Post subject: |
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Kurosaki wrote: | hell yea, I'd be up for it anytime D:
but she's not and she won't be  |
Nothing a little bit of drugs won't solve kuro 
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:20 Post subject: |
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LeoNatan wrote: | DXWarlock wrote: | LeoNatan wrote: | Good job, you acted like a prick, and now instead of apologizing you are typing on nfohump, crying about it.  |
So the rule of thumb is, women can act how the wish, while your response should always be in a gentleman and accommodating manner as if she did nothing wrong herself?
Why does the genitals they possess give them magical 'get away with being an asshole' powers?If I was out with a guy friend, and he started acting that way, I would treat him no different than a female or vice versa..your personality and equipment between your ears dictates how I respond to you, not your equipment between your legs.
If he said he was out with a buddy, and the buddy acted like that, and he acted that way back, would you say "You over reacted and should feel bad for speaking to him in such a manner, regardless if he started it"?
I mean to me, I find treating women like they aren't people, and some god being to forgive then beg for forgiveness yourself for causing them to act that way is MORE offensive to women. its coddling and idolizing them..instead of treating them like an equal. |
Actually, I would yes. What I took from the story is the girl was hungry, sat in a restaurant, dude made a scene, she tried to leave and he pulled her by her arm. Well, yes, if this happens with a "guy" friend of his and not a girl, he is an equal prick. The gender doesn't matter.
If she's such an asshole, why are they on vacation together? |
This. Not to mention that if it was a guy, a friend, Kurosaki wouldn't have made a scene like that. So if anything he's the one that's not treating her equal.
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sausje
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:22 Post subject: |
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So she's allowed to bitch about waiting 5 to 10 min and then forces them both to eat at a shitty place?!
Fuck no, i would had done exactly the same as kuro did.
Hell, i would had let her go and waited those 5 to 10 min myself.
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:23 Post subject: |
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LeoNatan wrote: | Actually, I would yes. What I took from the story is the girl was hungry, sat in a restaurant, dude made a scene, she tried to leave and he pulled her by her arm. Well, yes, if this happens with a "guy" friend of his and not a girl, he is an equal prick. The gender doesn't matter.
If she's such an asshole, why are they on vacation together? |
maybe we read it different is why. I see it as her being arrogant, uncooperative, and selfish..which caused the situation. Wasnt there, so I could be wrong.
I read he was trying to find a nice place they both will enjoy to eat despite its busy everywhere..she decides to be condescending and selfish and drag him into the first place she sees that is nasty. HE says he doesn't want to eat there..she gets in a huff and just walks out without saying anything..
I say lack of respect gets lack of respect in return. I don't see how holding someones arm to stop them to talk to them is an attack..
But he reacted different than I would have. She gets up and walks out in a bitch fit, and I'm not dating her? good luck to her for the night, shes a big girl and making her own decision to leave. I'm going to get up and find me the place to eat I wanted to in the first place. if she wishes to join me when she sees me, the chair is open.
And I agree, if shes just a asshole..Id have picked a better travel partner 
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:31 Post subject: |
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Yea, it was a huge mistake to go on a vecation with her... I mean the first days were pretty nice but since I found about the guy....damn. and she's almost every second on her mobile phone texting with him. from morning to evening. the vibration of her phone woke me up couple days ago. I've asked her nicely to turn the vibration off during sleeping time....and thankfully she did it.
well, fuck it. going back to the room soon.
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:32 Post subject: |
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DXWarlock wrote: | LeoNatan wrote: | Actually, I would yes. What I took from the story is the girl was hungry, sat in a restaurant, dude made a scene, she tried to leave and he pulled her by her arm. Well, yes, if this happens with a "guy" friend of his and not a girl, he is an equal prick. The gender doesn't matter.
If she's such an asshole, why are they on vacation together? |
maybe we read it different is why. I see it as her being arrogant, uncooperative, and selfish..which caused the situation. Wasnt there, so I could be wrong.
I read he was trying to find a nice place they both will enjoy to eat despite its busy everywhere..she decides to be condescending and selfish and drag him into the first place she sees that is nasty. HE says he doesn't want to eat there..she gets in a huff and just walks out without saying anything..
I say lack of respect gets lack of respect in return. I don't see how holding someones arm to stop them to talk to them is an attack..
But he reacted different than I would have. She gets up and walks out in a bitch fit, and I'm not dating her? good luck to her for the night, shes a big girl and making her own decision to leave. I'm going to get up and find me the place to eat I wanted to in the first place. if she wishes to join me when she sees me, the chair is open.
And I agree, if shes just a asshole..Id have picked a better travel partner  |
But that's the point of it all, he's emotionally involved. If there was nothing between them he could have let her walk away and he'd go his separate way. But since we're all reading about this and giving advice its obvious he's not sure of his reaction (which i think was unjustified and fueled by his anger of the whole "cheating" thing).
Seriously pick better travel partners.
sausje wrote: | So she's allowed to bitch about waiting 5 to 10 min and then forces them both to eat at a shitty place?!
Fuck no, i would had done exactly the same as kuro did.
Hell, i would had let her go and waited those 5 to 10 min myself. |
You must be popular with the ladies...
Kurosaki wrote: | Yea, it was a huge mistake to go on a vecation with her... I mean the first days were pretty nice but since I found about the guy....damn. and she's almost every second on her mobile phone texting with him. from morning to evening. the vibration of her phone woke me up couple days ago. I've asked her nicely to turn the vibration off during sleeping time....and thankfully she did it.
well, fuck it. going back to the room soon. |
Ok... I don't get it. You obviously went with her to get some, but why the hell did she go with you if she has a guy back home? And you aren't intimate? WTF?
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:36 Post subject: |
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Wow, this is one hell of a fuck up. You wasted your chances big time!
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:38 Post subject: |
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True, think he got into it too deep too quick, when she wasnt in that mindset at all.
Best I can say is just cut the loses, and let it go. I mean the attachment you had, not the vacation. If you hold onto it, its just going to eat you up, while with her its not even an issue to think about to start with.
And as far as the popular with the ladies thing..I think its the idea that we wouldn't want to be popular with a lady like that to start with...so just going to eat at the other place and letting her go, is one less lady we don't need to worry about
There is a lot of things I do that would piss a lot of ladies off, Not concerned if Im popular with the ladies, just if I'm popular with the one that likes me for being that way 
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:40 Post subject: |
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xxax wrote: | Ok... I don't get it. You obviously went with her to get some, but why the hell did she go with you if she has a guy back home? And you aren't intimate? WTF? |
Free trip. 
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xxax wrote: |
Ok... I don't get it. You obviously went with her to get some, but why the hell did she go with you if she has a guy back home? And you aren't intimate? WTF? |
This is what confuses me. If I went on vacation with someone, dating them or not. Id assume that since we are going as a guy girl, intimacy would be a assumption on both our parts (that would be a bit of mutually agreed, even if not spoken outloud)...otherwise just hang out with them at a local bar at home and save the money..haha
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:41 Post subject: |
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^pretty much this.
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:42 Post subject: |
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xxax wrote: | sausje wrote: | So she's allowed to bitch about waiting 5 to 10 min and then forces them both to eat at a shitty place?!
Fuck no, i would had done exactly the same as kuro did.
Hell, i would had let her go and waited those 5 to 10 min myself. |
You must be popular with the ladies... |
Before i gained weight? Yes, and i was a cunt to each and everyone of them.
Maybe something you don't know, but most chicks want men that treat them bad.
Even tho they know it's bad for them, somehow it attracts them.
Now ofc these are not chicks for settling down, but who want's that anyway
My experience is that girls are nothing but whiny bitches that want nonstop attention and judge everything you do and except sympathy when they do the same thing they condemned you for doing.
I rather have a fling now and then, then something steady 
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 22:47 Post subject: |
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DXWarlock wrote: | xxax wrote: |
Ok... I don't get it. You obviously went with her to get some, but why the hell did she go with you if she has a guy back home? And you aren't intimate? WTF? |
This is what confuses me. If I went on vacation with someone, dating them or not. Id assume that since we are going as a guy girl, intimacy would be a assumption on both our parts (that would be a bit of mutually agreed, even if not spoken outloud)...otherwise just hang out with them at a local bar at home and save the money..haha |
Aha, now who is using gender. So if you go with a girl, sex is assumed (intimacy is just a wrong word!), but if you go with a "guy" friend, all is good?
It all comes down to how she saw the relationship. If she saw it as platonic, I don't see how sex is (implicitly or explicitly) assumed.
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 23:01 Post subject: |
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LeoNatan wrote: |
Aha, now who is using gender. So if you go with a girl, sex is assumed (intimacy is just a wrong word!), but if you go with a "guy" friend, all is good?
It all comes down to how she saw the relationship. If she saw it as platonic, I don't see how sex is (implicitly or explicitly) assumed. |
I am using gender, I totally admit and acknowledge that who I prefer to have sex with his HIGHLY gender biased extremely fanatically biased to be honest, while who I talk to and who I give respect to is not based on gender, but based on their respect for me....so yes, you are right. my sexual partners have a nasty habit of me judging by gender
Or your saying that gender shouldn't play a role in if you want sex? do you regularly expect sex from men and women equally if they are attracted to you, or do you also filter who you want it from using gender? your comparing apples to oranges.
And thats what I was implying..that if i took a female with me on a vacation, with the intent of doing it with her, I would make sure that shes is in the same mindset before hand since thats a lot of the reason IM going. Id make sure shes on board with that idea before hand.
Im not imply that since shes female..sex is assumed she will give it. Im saying that if I was going for that purpose, that the female I take was after the same purpose.
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 23:09 Post subject: |
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lol , cant you just go on vecation with a girl and NOT fuck her ?
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 23:11 Post subject: |
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What?
I think you just read things incorrectly. I am saying that you should not expect sex regardless of the sex. If you are not in a (mutually agreed ) relationship, no sex is expected. With some women, I guess, buying them a gift is enough of a "turn on" to go into bed with you, but I assume usually the better of women.
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xxax wrote: | StEFaN7 wrote: | lol , cant you just go on vecation with a girl and NOT fuck her ? |
Alone? Sure if you're gay... Can't see any other reason... |
Exactly 
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 23:13 Post subject: |
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xxax wrote: | ...seriously? |
No i'm talking out of my ass 
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 23:17 Post subject: |
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Actually I really don't know StEFaN7..I've only really ever took 2 'vacations' in the aspect of going to some other place for the hell of it to stay there a while.
And both times was with a chick I was dating. Once was a girl before I was married that planned it, and the other my wife that planned it.
(plus I travel a lot for work, so 'going places' for the sake of seeing it wore off on me LONG ago).
I'm personally the type that doesn't see the point in vacations. If I can't keep myself entertained and happy within 10 miles of my house regularly..I need to move, instead of going place to look at things that make me forgot how boring where I live is
My idea of a vacation is getting away from everything..that includes people I know. It would be going some place just for the fact that no one will bother me, need anything from me, or annoy me
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For example I had to goto Israel for my job, and my birthday was while I was there, on a Friday..I had 4 days to myself they let me have...I stayed in the hotel, slept a lot, played games, watched TV. and wandered around within 3 blocks of the hotel to get food..BEST vacation ever! 4 days of no one needing a damn thing from me, and no schedule at all to follow.
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Thread delivers, nice job Dr Kurwasakienstein 
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 23:18 Post subject: |
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yeah but he didnt say what kind of relation they had back before the trip
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 23:19 Post subject: |
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Kurosaki wrote: | @xaxx, like I've said. We were very close and were getting closer.....damn, she wanted to go on this vecation, not me :/.... |
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xxax wrote: | He said himself they were getting closer. I seriously doubt he went to Turkey to see the sights with her... |
Doesn't matter what he thinks or wants. What does she see in the relationship? I mean seriously, for all we know, he is so annoying, she didn't want to spend 15 minutes with him alone, waiting for the restaurants to empty.
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Well, so what changed so much within 1 day that she now can't stand him and has suddenly developed a cheat-mate? 
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 23:27 Post subject: |
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But back to the thead, I think you realized it already...but your into her a LOT more than shes is into you.
And I cant judge from one situation given, but if shes like that to you a lot (not caring about your opinion, trumping any mutual decisions on a whim) and you are like that to her in return (snippy, gets aggravated with her personality, not working to meet on decisions you disagree with, etc) then even if she was into you, id suggest taking it sloooow..
As after being married 17 years, I figured out a relationship isn't determined about how well you get along when your having fun, its about how well you can get along when shit hits the fan between you 2..Basically how good is the relationship at its lowest point, not its highest.
take anything that happens in the first 6 months at a low point..and think "what would this turn into in 10 years if this happened, when neither of us are holding back for the sake of 'being good'."
if this is how it turns out while still in that "warm fuzzy exotic location with a new mate" phase, it probably isn't the best choice to pursue it 
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 23:31 Post subject: |
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nevermind. talked to her, kinda apologized. we're going to end our "relationship".
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LeoNatan wrote: | xxax wrote: | He said himself they were getting closer. I seriously doubt he went to Turkey to see the sights with her... |
Doesn't matter what he thinks or wants. What does she see in the relationship? I mean seriously, for all we know, he is so annoying, she didn't want to spend 15 minutes with him alone, waiting for the restaurants to empty.
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Well, so what changed so much within 1 day that she now can't stand him and has suddenly developed a cheat-mate?  |
I'm agreeing with you here goddamit!
That's why i was asking all those questions, i still don't understand how this is supposed to work between them and why did they go on vacation together ALONE.
Kurosaki wrote: | nevermind. talked to her, kinda apologized. we're going to end our "relationship". |
If you ask me its for the best. "Relationships" never work out. But maybe you could take a page out of sausje's book on dating and act like an asshole for the rest of the trip, maybe she'll come round (cuz women like assholes apparently).
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Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2013 23:36 Post subject: |
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If she can't take in shit like that then she isn't even worth it, she would just be a total bitch anyway.
Propably one of those common women that just try to get men to do whatever they want whenever they want.
I would ditch my gf in a heartbeat if she started trying to boss me around, and I'm glad she doesn't, prolly one of the reasons I like her so much..
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