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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 00:24 Post subject: |
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Game is extremly detailed just tried the demo but it's just too complicated for me, rome 2 will do me.
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 01:18 Post subject: |
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| Theescapist wrote: | | Game is extremly detailed just tried the demo but it's just too complicated for me, rome 2 will do me. |
You should reconsider, it may take a few hours to get into. But it is sooooo rewarding, and the replayability is out of this world.
+ mods will keep you occupied for years to come.
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 01:28 Post subject: |
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previous incarnation was least complicated out of paradox grand strategy series , from videos it didnt look that much different, there were new things so i hope its deeper and more complicated, i still feel grand strategy game doesnt fit paradox games, as they are barebones untill 20 dlcs or 2-3 years of player mods
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 01:29 Post subject: |
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They make the best grand strategy games. Obviously doesn't suit them, though.
They should go into the MOAB craze instead.
Crusader Kings: the MOAB
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 01:43 Post subject: |
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| djaoni wrote: | They make the best grand strategy games. Obviously doesn't suit them, though.
They should go into the MOAB craze instead.
Crusader Kings: the MOAB |
grand strategy game doesnt befit game with so little choices , noone else really makes grand strategy games, i just find genre name bit silly, as there is nothing grand about the games most of the time, "grand " should describe actions or choices you can make in game, and not the map size
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 05:03 Post subject: |
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ok so this demo is amazing. it's like eu3 x 10,000.
at first i was angry at the changes because i did not understand all the subtle numbers and percentages and modifiers. well once the learning curve was past, i just couldn't stop myself. ffs i think i've wasted a good 8 hours in one sitting and holy shit do i have to take a dump, but wow this game is great improvement on eu3. everything dumb about the last game got nerfed and the good stuff got improved. omg omg omg x 3. this game is going to take over my life. + i can run it on ubuntu *orgasm*
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 09:57 Post subject: |
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| Theescapist wrote: | | Game is extremly detailed just tried the demo but it's just too complicated for me, rome 2 will do me. |
I know the feeling and I bet most do who played any of the paradox games. But if you are interested I'd say: put some time into it.
It can keep you entertained for hundreds of hours and if you are used of one game of theirs it's easier to get into one of their others  |
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 10:56 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: | | djaoni wrote: | They make the best grand strategy games. Obviously doesn't suit them, though.
They should go into the MOAB craze instead.
Crusader Kings: the MOAB |
grand strategy game doesnt befit game with so little choices , noone else really makes grand strategy games, i just find genre name bit silly, as there is nothing grand about the games most of the time, "grand " should describe actions or choices you can make in game, and not the map size |
i have read two of your posts in this thread.
and i can tell you have NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
Paradox grand strategy games have hardly any real choice?
you either haven't played EUIII or CKII at all, or you have but got annoyed at the complication (betting on this one) and are now having a hissy fit in the thread to try and stop other people from realizing how deep, complex and rewarding these games are.
I still play CKII (after 200 hours in my steam playtime) and i can guarentee that i dont use ANY DLC or mods (because the vanilla game, of christian feudal war, is seven miles deep, and infinitely dynamic. DLC is bonus, content designed outside of the original mandate, and OPTIONAL.)
so all of your points so far are sooooooooo ignorant is hilarious.
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 13:18 Post subject: |
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i played both , but neither of them have many choices , seriously, lets take ck2 as its latest game and i remember it best, choices differ depending which religion/area you play, but basically its divided into very limited diplomacy and war, you have 5 advisors with 4 -5? options each, while that sounds like a lot, in reality it isnt
declaring war is very straight forward and simple click and repeat process depends what you play, manufacture casus beli or just declare war because of different religion, from marriage to raising levy , everything involves very little effort or depth
i find ck2 extremely easy, only game from paradox that ifound hard at some point was hearts of irons 3 with that biggest mod,name fell out of my head, but thats because mod added 500% content original game had , and hard lasted for a hour...
did you play victoria 2, or newest expansion, that added like 5 things, that game so so basic and easy its hardly "strategy " at all
i grew up by playing rts, most of them were far more complicated than current paradox games, and i was playing them since i was 14~ or so , i dont trow hissy fit because game is too hard, whats hard in any of paradox games, they arent hard, they are complicated if you never played one before and cant be bothered to spend an hour learning it
oh and you dont play ck2 with addons/mods, so things you can do in game are even more limited, being able to play as 30~ factions what ever, when 80% of gameplay would be the same, or the fact that game can go any way, doesnt mean game have depth or many options
but each its own, for you game with dinasty/succesion/war/religion/vassals + 5/10 options in each equates as a lot of options, for me its just scraping surface, i want proper diplomacy, proper ai, proper research, proper holy wars, expeditions, random events, small events, big events, alliances,way more choice to do things i can do already, many of those were actually added into ck2 as addons, and ck2 with all addons can be called grand strategy, but base game without dlcs, cannot
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 20:34 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: | i played both , but neither of them have many choices , seriously, lets take ck2 as its latest game and i remember it best, choices differ depending which religion/area you play, but basically its divided into very limited diplomacy and war, you have 5 advisors with 4 -5? options each, while that sounds like a lot, in reality it isnt
declaring war is very straight forward and simple click and repeat process depends what you play, manufacture casus beli or just declare war because of different religion, from marriage to raising levy , everything involves very little effort or depth
i find ck2 extremely easy, only game from paradox that ifound hard at some point was hearts of irons 3 with that biggest mod,name fell out of my head, but thats because mod added 500% content original game had , and hard lasted for a hour...
did you play victoria 2, or newest expansion, that added like 5 things, that game so so basic and easy its hardly "strategy " at all
i grew up by playing rts, most of them were far more complicated than current paradox games, and i was playing them since i was 14~ or so , i dont trow hissy fit because game is too hard, whats hard in any of paradox games, they arent hard, they are complicated if you never played one before and cant be bothered to spend an hour learning it
oh and you dont play ck2 with addons/mods, so things you can do in game are even more limited, being able to play as 30~ factions what ever, when 80% of gameplay would be the same, or the fact that game can go any way, doesnt mean game have depth or many options
but each its own, for you game with dinasty/succesion/war/religion/vassals + 5/10 options in each equates as a lot of options, for me its just scraping surface, i want proper diplomacy, proper ai, proper research, proper holy wars, expeditions, random events, small events, big events, alliances,way more choice to do things i can do already, many of those were actually added into ck2 as addons, and ck2 with all addons can be called grand strategy, but base game without dlcs, cannot |
All that text...So you want a more complex game? Play the myriad of Matrix games out there.
Hardly any armchair generals, that would disagree with your last couple of sentences - more of everything, no thank you?
I for one think the EU series are getting better, alot better even.
Edit: Someone on RPS posted this:
Possible to play any country:
1) Pick one of playable nations, for example VEN (Venice). (And, for example, MOS (Muscowy) as playable one.)
2) Go to \Europa Universalis IV Demo\common\countries
3) Rename “Venice.txt” to “Muscowy.txt” and “Muscowy.txt” to “Venice.txt”
4) Open \Europa Universalis IV Demo\common\country_tags0_countries.txt
5) Change tag allocation to VEN = “countries/Muscowy.txt” and MOS = “countries/Venice.txt”
Havent tried it myself - only 4 more days!
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 21:39 Post subject: |
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| Doh! wrote: | Edit: Someone on RPS posted this:
Possible to play any country:
1) Pick one of playable nations, for example VEN (Venice). (And, for example, MOS (Muscowy) as playable one.)
2) Go to \Europa Universalis IV Demo\common\countries
3) Rename “Venice.txt” to “Muscowy.txt” and “Muscowy.txt” to “Venice.txt”
4) Open \Europa Universalis IV Demo\common\country_tags0_countries.txt
5) Change tag allocation to VEN = “countries/Muscowy.txt” and MOS = “countries/Venice.txt”
Havent tried it myself - only 4 more days! |
Actually you only have to switch the positions of the lines in the 00_countries.txt file.
I.e. exchange the line for ENG with the line for POR to play with England and.
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| Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 23:17 Post subject: |
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There is a all countries unlocker which removes the timecap afaik on 4chan. Works to unlock at least. I've preordered it anyway but fun to try a few more nations.
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| Posted: Sat, 10th Aug 2013 01:30 Post subject: |
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| Frant1c wrote: | | There is a all countries unlocker which removes the timecap afaik on 4chan. Works to unlock at least. I've preordered it anyway but fun to try a few more nations. |
removes timecap?! where can i get this amazing unlocker. even without saves this would be so cool
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| Posted: Sat, 10th Aug 2013 19:27 Post subject: |
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Anyone seen a hack for the time frame ? (To start earlier, ie 1452 or something)
1492 start is lame. Such a steamroll in Europe by Austria and France
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Aug 2013 08:14 Post subject: |
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Its not that far of Eu3, that started in 1453
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Aug 2013 11:30 Post subject: |
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| -=Cartoon=- wrote: | | Its not that far of Eu3, that started in 1453 |
sure,
but I recall that the blobs aren't quite as strong yet.
France has more vassals, Austria does not have north western Europe (though they have Hungary in Union).
etc.
And Ottomans are much weaker.
(Though I'd still prefer 1399 start much more)
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| Posted: Sun, 11th Aug 2013 13:40 Post subject: |
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| mtj wrote: | | -=Cartoon=- wrote: | | Its not that far of Eu3, that started in 1453 |
sure,
but I recall that the blobs aren't quite as strong yet.
France has more vassals, Austria does not have north western Europe (though they have Hungary in Union).
etc.
And Ottomans are much weaker.
(Though I'd still prefer 1399 start much more) |
1399 start will come as DLC I'm sure, seeing as there is already the info for that in the history files.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Aug 2013 17:38 Post subject: |
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As far as I know the full game will start in 1444.
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