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bruasca




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 19:01    Post subject:
Pro.Evolution.Soccer.2014.Update.v1.01-RELOADED

The new patch features:
The below features have been added to Online:
Both "Ranking Match" and "Friendly Match" are selectable in "Match".
"Master League Online" is now selectable in "Football Life".
"Online Settings" have been added as a Top Menu Option. This can be used to configure a wide range of online options.
Minor adjustments have been made to a variety of modes to improve general gaming experience.
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Tungsten




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 19:03    Post subject:
i cant seem to get it to install...
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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 19:08    Post subject:
as i said before, you have to wait a few min while the installer checks the data files in backround. ok thats completely stupid cause the only patched file is the exe but nevertheless Wink should be enough to only copy the crack
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demde




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 19:08    Post subject:
You probably need original .exe v1.00 , but since only .exe updated - put only the crack and you are good to go.


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Nui
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 19:30    Post subject:
I only notice definite input lag when i try to switch between players, that reacts way too late. But I dont think I set this to fully manual, but im not sure.

Other than that, I can usually easly explain the delay between my input and action. When my player can, he will react quickly, otherwise he wont do some freaky superhuman change in motion to fullfill my wishes. Not sure if this is really for the better or if a tradeoff between gameplay and realism should be made.

Anyway, this game isnt for me. Automatic controls seem retarded and with manual controls I manage just about nothing Laughing
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 19:37    Post subject:
Nui wrote:

Anyway, this game isnt for me. Automatic controls seem retarded and with manual controls I manage just about nothing Laughing


Heh, yeah. That's totally understandable. If most people would just admit they're better off staying with the streamlined accessibility of FIFA instead of coming here and saying "hey! I played 77 matches of this and it's the worst game ever" it would effectively save us a lot of posts in this thread

I think the automated/assisted controls are there just out of politeness. Manual is how this game should be played Smile
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Nui
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 19:56    Post subject:
Maybe I could try again with a controller thats not potentially broken. I do see the inners of this pad, where I really shouldn't Laughing
When i press L2 to see where I am aiming, i also notice far too much fluctuation and imprecision, which I think is only partly my fault.

Though having played a bit of training, I do get the feeling that the controls are a bit too hardcore. Some timings could be loosened imo. Reminds me of street fighter for fucks sake.
Another example is shot-aiming. Why do i need to precisely aim at the goal? Of course I want to aim there. I have less problems shooting in real life than here.

Personally I would like a football game where I can tell the game what do to do as easily on me as possible. It is highly probably though, that easy and precise commands are two goals that dont quite fit together Very Happy
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Blazerr




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 19:58    Post subject:
* The graphics are pretty much awful, i mean we are 2013 guys ... wtf is that !??

* Player faces are also the worst i've ever seen in a soccer (even sports) game the last couple of years. 90% of the Real Madrid players are made just awful, and "awful" doesn't even fully discribes how bad and shitty they are. Basically from what i've saw ~ 90% of the game faces are unbelieveble shit.

* Gameplay wise there are some good changes compared to the last 2 or 3 PES titles, but the game continues to lack a large amount of things. The gameplay for me is too slow, the ball is moving like forever, so i put the game speed on +1. And i'm a guy who plays FIFA on slow speed, so no, im not fan of the quick, arcade game speed.

Bottom line - the large ammount of missing players, teams, licences, leagues and etc., the bad presentation, music, menus, gaming modes, in-game commentary, the as always awful and laggy online mode and the urgent need of fixes, patches and stuff .... all of those things + a large ammount of gameplay things and bugs and even more, makes me wonder who would buy such a mess !? I mean this is not even a well polished product, the "whole pack" is as always missing, you are buying a product with large ammount of incorrect transfers and rosters .... and that's one of the easiest things to do, and still year after year KONAMI keeps doing the same thing with tha old squads and incorrect trasnfers.

So with so much stuff missing and needing too much fixing, this is not a end product, this is not what a company like KONAMI should ship worldwide like a "finish product", its more like a Alpha/Beta ... yesterday i thought i was playing the demo when i realised that this for god sakes is the end product, the official release of the game ...

But for me the biggest dissapointment are the faces and the graphics - just awful, awful!

FIFA is just the better game, the better product, the all in one game, with almost perfect support thought the whole year with every week updates and stuff ... the game is really really close to the on going real football action. That's the thing i like the most in FIFA.

I'm not a PES hater, or FIFA fan, actually every year i try them both with the idea of playing the better game, well since 2011 FIFA has always been the better one.




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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 20:13    Post subject:
Blazerr wrote:

But for me the biggest dissapointment are the faces and the graphics - just awful, awful!


Well, if you think the graphics and faces are awful, which I'm gonna go ahead and call as "fair enough" as I have already stated multiple times that football games today are all of them years behind, then I can only imagine you realize thet FIFA graphics are even worse, unless, you consider cartoonish graphics to be awesome Laughing

Other than that I agree with most of your points except maybe with your last line, as your take on "what the better game is since 2011" is obviously very different from mine, I guess we both seek different things from a football game Wink
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Blazerr




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 20:22    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Blazerr wrote:

But for me the biggest dissapointment are the faces and the graphics - just awful, awful!


Well, if you think the graphics and faces are awful, which I'm gonna go ahead and call as "fair enough" as I have already stated multiple times that football games today are all of them years behind, then I can only imagine you realize thet FIFA graphics are even worse, unless, you consider cartoonish graphics to be awesome Laughing

Other than that I agree with most of your points except maybe with your last line, as your take on "what the better game is since 2011" is obviously very different from mine, I guess we both seek different things from a football game Wink

Actually yes, FIFA graphics are better than this years PES, at least the graphics are polished, something that is completely missing on PES 2014. With the new engine i was expecting some solid graphics, i never thought KONAMI will actually take a step back in that "department" of the game.

FIFA 12 & FIFA 13 are for me without a doubt better than PES 12 & 13, and i mean with a huge advantage. FIFA 11 for PC was 1/2 NG and had some technical issues, but again for me was way better than PES 11 at that time.
Are you saying that u think PES 11, 12 and 13 (one of them or more) was/were better than the same years FIFA product ?




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Sohei




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 20:35    Post subject:
The graphics on pes 2014 are good when your watching a replay etc, but the level of detail from gameplay cameras takes alot of that detail away and makes it look ok only, basicly it would be great with a lod mod or something. Also the lightning is really inconsistent, play during the day and visuals are much better than at night.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 20:38    Post subject:
Blazerr wrote:
4treyu wrote:
Blazerr wrote:

But for me the biggest dissapointment are the faces and the graphics - just awful, awful!


Well, if you think the graphics and faces are awful, which I'm gonna go ahead and call as "fair enough" as I have already stated multiple times that football games today are all of them years behind, then I can only imagine you realize thet FIFA graphics are even worse, unless, you consider cartoonish graphics to be awesome Laughing

Other than that I agree with most of your points except maybe with your last line, as your take on "what the better game is since 2011" is obviously very different from mine, I guess we both seek different things from a football game Wink

Actually yes, FIFA graphics are better than this years PES, at least the graphics are polished, something that is completely missing on PES 2014. With the new engine i was expecting some solid graphics, i never thought KONAMI will actually take a step back in that "department" of the game.

FIFA 12 & FIFA 13 are for me without a doubt better than PES 12 & 13, and i mean with a huge advantage. FIFA 11 for PC was 1/2 NG and had some technical issues, but again for me was way better than PES 11 at that time.
Are you saying that u think PES 11, 12 and 13 (one of them or more) was/were better than the same years FIFA product ?


Then let's just agree to disagree

And no, what I'm saying is that PES has been better in 2013 and 2014. I didn't play PES 11 and 12 and I heard pretty awful things about them, then reviews for PES 13 hit the net ayear ago and they were most of them very positive which interested me in trying it and turns out they were spot on Smile So, it still is consistent with me opposing your notion than PES has been better every year since 2011.

This is my detailed comparison between PES /FIFA which applies to both 2013 and 2014:

1. Presentation: FIFA is way above PES in this, like it has always been. Better menues, better commentaries, better music, a product that feels much more polished in general.

1. Gameplay: much deeper and rewarding in PES. FIFA is just plain repetitive and boring. A yearly rehash of the previous year with a couple of shallow fancy named "additions". None of the games is a simulation, but if one of them is trying and gets closer, it's defiinitely PES.

2. A.I: much better in PES, especially in the defensive side of things. Goalkeepers inconsistent as usual and sometimes plain bad (this is not the case with FIFA, where GK AI is decent and stable).

3. Content and licenses: FIFA owns PES, period. KONAMI can't into securing agreements with brands, associations and clubs. That gives the game a serious disadvantage with many players (not me in particular as I'm mod lover).

4. Online: I confess I haven't really been into the online component of PES, but from word of mouth I'm gonna assume here that FIFA is the winner.

5. Graphics: waaaaay superior in PES, but, apparently the animations were still off in 2013. That has been considerably worked on for the new edition and now with the improved physicality I'm gonna be conservative and say they're at least "on par" with FIFA's. And graphics went quite a few levels up with the 2014 edition. Now PES is on the right track to produce realistic graphics (still lots of room for improvement) while FIFA is loyal to their colourful albeit cartoonish look. Breaks immersion for me personally.
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fable2




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 21:04    Post subject:
I feel like you're playing a different game tbh, i haven't experienced any of those things you said about A.I and Gameplay.
and no it's not because we don't know how to play the game, as it requires someone with higher intellect, it's because this game is flawed in many ways.

i already got bored with it sadly.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 21:07    Post subject:
Well, I have seen those things, other people here have seen those things (quickly comes to memory ixigia, just to name a well-known humper example), you haven't seen those things, other people haven't seen those things, fair enough! Like I said, let's just leave it a that and let's enjoy our respective favourite games! Smile
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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 21:44    Post subject:
I don't see this deep and rewarding gameplay that you mention. Game feels more on rails than ever. It really feels like I'm not controlling the players but just yelling from the touchline and they are doing their own thing. Its like they are not even aware of where the ball is. I've had ball bouncing out of feet and players just standing there. Defending mechanics are awful, there is zero intensity about it. Just contain contain until the guy makes a mistake or not because the controls are unresponsive.

Anyway, shooting is awful, ball physics are awful, passing is also awful due to the shitty ball physics. The manual settings don't feel any different to me, they felt a lot different in the previous games. Dribbling also feels very clumsy, the only way to dribble apparently is to do tricks who btw use retarded controls. Goalkeepers are somewhat improved but still terrible, lobbed shots are unstoppable.

The only good thing for me is the animations, they really need to build on this new engine but I don't see it happening soon. Disappointing really.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 21:52    Post subject:
Like I said Wink

Btw, most people that dislike the game have expressed how the animations are awful. So you see, there's many different perceptions and like already hinted, in the end it comes down to what every single person expects from a football game. And the on-rails thing you mentioned seems odd, I've never felt so much freedom in a footbal videogame before Smile
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fawe4




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 23:26    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Like I said Wink

Btw, most people that dislike the game have expressed how the animations are awful. So you see, there's many different perceptions and like already hinted, in the end it comes down to what every single person expects from a football game. And the on-rails thing you mentioned seems odd, I've never felt so much freedom in a footbal videogame before Smile


True. At this moment there is no question. PES 2014 is the better football game. Fifa is the same game it was three years ago and frankly I'm worried for pc Fifa franchise. EA may simply do as they did the last console generation change and leave all the improvements for next gen versions.
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fable2




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 23:43    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
4treyu wrote:
Like I said Wink

Btw, most people that dislike the game have expressed how the animations are awful. So you see, there's many different perceptions and like already hinted, in the end it comes down to what every single person expects from a football game. And the on-rails thing you mentioned seems odd, I've never felt so much freedom in a footbal videogame before Smile


True. At this moment there is no question. PES 2014 is the better football game. Fifa is the same game it was three years ago and frankly I'm worried for pc Fifa franchise. EA may simply do as they did the last console generation change and leave all the improvements for next gen versions.


situation is different now imo, FIFA14 is probably the same as ps360 cuz the PC team didn't get to port the new engine since it was already being developed, and thus we're getting the game on the same date as current gen, its stupid but understandable.
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 00:21    Post subject:
Neo_McKane wrote:
Exactly Sad
Can't stand the lag, but can't stand the choppy framerate neither..
Shame. I was really looking forward to this one..


madness wrote:
Neo_McKane wrote:
Ofcourse it does.
With vsync on, i have a 1 second lag when changing players, tackling, shooting..
With vsync off, there is no lag at all, whatever i do.


Damn you are right Laughing Disabled vsync and now I can release pass/shoot button later than before.

But now the framerate seems less smooth..

I was experiencing this issue too and managed to get rid of it by manually limiting the framerate through the Nvidia inspector - while also keeping vsync disabled:


Now the lag is gone, and the game doesn't have that slight stuttering anymore, worth a try I guess. Razz

I believe it's possible to do something similar with MSI Afterburner too (in case you have an AMD card).
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.Bole




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 11:42    Post subject:
How to install data pack when i have reloaded update 1,because its ask me for account?
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madness




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 13:11    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Neo_McKane wrote:
Exactly Sad
Can't stand the lag, but can't stand the choppy framerate neither..
Shame. I was really looking forward to this one..


madness wrote:
Neo_McKane wrote:
Ofcourse it does.
With vsync on, i have a 1 second lag when changing players, tackling, shooting..
With vsync off, there is no lag at all, whatever i do.


Damn you are right Laughing Disabled vsync and now I can release pass/shoot button later than before.

But now the framerate seems less smooth..

I was experiencing this issue too and managed to get rid of it by manually limiting the framerate through the Nvidia inspector - while also keeping vsync disabled:


Now the lag is gone, and the game doesn't have that slight stuttering anymore, worth a try I guess. Razz

I believe it's possible to do something similar with MSI Afterburner too (in case you have an AMD card).


Yeah, seems that helped, thanks Very Happy
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Amadeus




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 13:29    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
4treyu wrote:
Like I said Wink

Btw, most people that dislike the game have expressed how the animations are awful. So you see, there's many different perceptions and like already hinted, in the end it comes down to what every single person expects from a football game. And the on-rails thing you mentioned seems odd, I've never felt so much freedom in a footbal videogame before Smile


True. At this moment there is no question. PES 2014 is the better football game. Fifa is the same game it was three years ago and frankly I'm worried for pc Fifa franchise. EA may simply do as they did the last console generation change and leave all the improvements for next gen versions.


I don't support the whole "no-ignite for PC" either.

And i played PES 2014 yesterday after downloading it. After i saw the trailers i expected far more, after i heard the comments i expected far less.

But it was a rather positive experience. And yet, after having played the FIFA 14 demo, i must admit that PES is still no real for opponent for fifa anymore, not since 2011.

They really have to step up their game.

Graphics in PES are still very underwhelming. Animations are partially great and then horrible. Faces are mostly terrible and the AI is even worse than Fifa's, which i could rant about the whole day.

Add to that the fact that they are missing many teams/licenses - it's def Fifa for me, again, this year.

But i will try some more Pes 2014 nontheless.
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 16:09    Post subject:
Got to wait for the mods to kick in and we can do a better comparison between the 2 games. Kinda sad that pes will never be that good from the get go, but thats what u get when competing with such big companies like EA.

E: http://www.moddingway.com/file/37055.htm - a transfer patch.l finally what I was waiting for. Ill try master league now.


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fable2




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 16:39    Post subject:
PESEdit.com 2014 Patch 0.1 - Released!
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 16:41    Post subject:
So Much Win First the argentinian commentaries released yesterday and now this! It's on!

Thanks for the news Smile
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fable2




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 16:43    Post subject:
I disabled Vsync and Capped the framerate and it's definitely more responsive now
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 17:00    Post subject:
Good to hear Smile Now back to the PESEdit guys, this is the kind of faces we could expect in the near future. Thing is there's still no tool for doing it with this new engine, so for now they're just using the very powerful settings system that came with the game.

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madness




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 17:02    Post subject:
So..who is that supposed to be?
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nightfire10




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 17:06    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Good to hear Smile Now back to the PESEdit guys, this is the kind of faces we could expect in the near future. Thing is there's still no tool for doing it with this new engine, so for now they're just using the very powerful settings system that came with the game.



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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 18:28    Post subject:
is that a language

E: now i have to start my damn master league all over :<


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