[PS3] Thief 4 [360] [PC]
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Feb 2014 18:22    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Completed the game at a little over 9h30min BECAUSE I looked over secret achievements and figured there was 10 chapters, but there was only 8 Sad I was gonna do all the sidequests after chapter 9... so iv not done any of them Laughing But good news everyone, you can complete them after doing the story Very Happy

Two good tips:
The ABSOLUTE first thing you should buy is the wrench, if you don't you have to go back (unless you don't care about missiing stuff and finding the fastest/best route inside different buildings )
And yeah, BE prepared for chapter 7... you have two choises and one of them is pretty much impossible if you don't have any food (health)


But is it a good game? Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Feb 2014 18:39    Post subject:
@deelix
on which dificulty you played


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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 02:19    Post subject:
Agreed with deelix.


As soon as you can, buy the wrench, the tool for disabling traps and scalpell for stealing paintings. If you don't buy the razer/scalpell you will have to collect all these paintings later on to get achievements/Finishing collections. If you don't care... drop it Smile Paintings already pops up during chap 2 if im not mistaken.

Second, skill points doesnt come easy. If you plan on playing as a thief, don't waste them on combat skillsl. Wait untill chapter 5+. Use on focus and other skills helping you out getting gold/loot. Expand quiver and your storage secondly Also make sure you NEVER run out of rope and blunt arrows. Buying arrows and stuff is very expencive, so use your gold and skills WISELY according to your gameplay.

Thief looks like shit on 360 with alot of texture load problems when installed to HDD. AI is not to bad on medium but i recommend playing on harder levels.
Looking forward to get my PS4 version. Definatly going for a at least 2 more runs through the game Smile

One thing thats extremely annoying is opening windows. You can break in to a place through the window and to get out you have to break through it again. This happens A LOT. Other than that...great fucking game Smile
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Today I didn't even need to use my AK. I gotta say it was a good day. (c) - Ice Cube
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 06:58    Post subject:
Played a bit and my opinion is: it's a poor man's dishonored.
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 07:00    Post subject:
ZezoS wrote:
Played a bit and my opinion is: it's a poor man's dishonored.


My opinion too. The storytelling is the weakest part. And the fact that you can club down a dozen guards in an open fight.


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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 08:55    Post subject:
To be fair, Chapter 1 felt like a part of the prologue. It was VERY short, took me 14min to complete. All the other chapters took me 43-58min to complete.
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 16:06    Post subject:
Waargh wrote:

Laughing

Perfect for this generation of "gaemrs". Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 16:35    Post subject:
Piece of shit game, this looks worse than dark messiah of might and magic which is a what? 6 fucking year old game? And the bugs. FUCK MY SOUL, i'm stuck on chapter one as whenever i try to leave the clock house the level reloads.

Same story with Castlevania 2. Aside from the shit as fuck gameplay and dated graphics, im now stuck half way through in a fucking invisible wall on top of an elevator. Thank god fuck Mist form right? Cause a game with clipping issues needs a no clip mode.


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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 16:40    Post subject:
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this looks worse than dark messiah of might and magic which is a what? 6 fucking year old game?


Well, thats not true.
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 16:50    Post subject:
Rage wrote:
Piece of shit game, this looks worse than dark messiah of might and magic which is a what? 6 fucking year old game? And the bugs. FUCK MY SOUL, i'm stuck on chapter one as whenever i try to leave the clock house the level reloads.

Same story with Castlevania 2. Aside from the shit as fuck gameplay and dated graphics, im now stuck half way through in a fucking invisible wall on top of an elevator. Thank god fuck Mist form right? Cause a game with clipping issues needs a no clip mode.
Yeah, it looks like shit and runs like shit... might be an awesome experience on PS4 tho Smile
Some places have very bland low res textures, while other places its a little better. Dunno whats that about, but it might have something to do with the next gen version :/
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 17:38    Post subject:
I didn't even get to the graphics discussion, cause i played on X360, so i already expected to look like crap Troll Face
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 18:12    Post subject:
I played it on PS3 and it looks like crap and considering the BIK are mostly likely the same as the PS4 / XBONE / PC version, I expect the PC, PS4, XBONE version to look like crap too.

The PS3 version already look like crap for a PS3 standard, so I think the fact the game looks like crap isn't really because of the hardware but more because it's dated. The "next gen" version is probably just 1080p + buffed up textures as expected. Yes, even the pre-rendered BIK look like crap for what should be a PS3 game, so imagine that.... Only thing is that obviously the BIK aren't aliased, which is what you can expect on PS4 in 1080p..

Otherwise, the gameplay is pretty good, but it's a bit slow...

Even Bioshock Infinite, which is UE3 too, looks a LOT better on PS3...
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 19:15    Post subject:
Ishkur123 wrote:
Quote:
this looks worse than dark messiah of might and magic which is a what? 6 fucking year old game?


Well, thats not true.


Right! I mean, it boggles my mind the mental jumping jacks people perform to justify their negative opinion of a game.


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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 20:37    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Some places have very bland low res textures, while other places its a little better. Dunno whats that about, but it might have something to do with the next gen version :/

hi and welcome to new gen. when new gen consoles are out, old gen versions of same game are usually handled by shittier external porting studio, or less talented team from main studio. AC4 is another fine example of this, where 360/ps3 versions looked like diarrhea cover in rotten puke.
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 21:11    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
deelix wrote:
Some places have very bland low res textures, while other places its a little better. Dunno whats that about, but it might have something to do with the next gen version :/

hi and welcome to new gen. when new gen consoles are out, old gen versions of same game are usually handled by shittier external porting studio, or less talented team from main studio. AC4 is another fine example of this, where 360/ps3 versions looked like diarrhea cover in rotten puke.


That's actually not true, AC IV looked fine on PS3/Xbox 360, it was only a bit slow (and sometimes VERY slow on PS3). Sure it looks much better on PS4/PC, but for the dated console's graphical capabilities AC IV looked pretty good (except the very first island).

Now Thief IS indeed fugly, it's like a PS2 port with higher resolution. PS3 and Xbox 360 can do much more than that, Dishonored on PS3 is "next get" compared to that POS Thief graphics.
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 22:08    Post subject:
BolderDash wrote:
rgb#000 wrote:
deelix wrote:
Some places have very bland low res textures, while other places its a little better. Dunno whats that about, but it might have something to do with the next gen version :/

hi and welcome to new gen. when new gen consoles are out, old gen versions of same game are usually handled by shittier external porting studio, or less talented team from main studio. AC4 is another fine example of this, where 360/ps3 versions looked like diarrhea cover in rotten puke.


That's actually not true, AC IV looked fine on PS3/Xbox 360, it was only a bit slow (and sometimes VERY slow on PS3). Sure it looks much better on PS4/PC, but for the dated console's graphical capabilities AC IV looked pretty good (except the very first island).

Now Thief IS indeed fugly, it's like a PS2 port with higher resolution. PS3 and Xbox 360 can do much more than that, Dishonored on PS3 is "next get" compared to that POS Thief graphics.


No, it doesn't look like a PS2 port with higher res. Graphics are simply "nice" or "tolerable" at least.
The game is pretty good at Master Custom Classic Thief difficulty. I'll play a couple of hours more on PS3 and I'll put it on halt until the release of the PC version.
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 22:29    Post subject:
fearwhatnow wrote:
BolderDash wrote:
rgb#000 wrote:

hi and welcome to new gen. when new gen consoles are out, old gen versions of same game are usually handled by shittier external porting studio, or less talented team from main studio. AC4 is another fine example of this, where 360/ps3 versions looked like diarrhea cover in rotten puke.


That's actually not true, AC IV looked fine on PS3/Xbox 360, it was only a bit slow (and sometimes VERY slow on PS3). Sure it looks much better on PS4/PC, but for the dated console's graphical capabilities AC IV looked pretty good (except the very first island).

Now Thief IS indeed fugly, it's like a PS2 port with higher resolution. PS3 and Xbox 360 can do much more than that, Dishonored on PS3 is "next get" compared to that POS Thief graphics.


No, it doesn't look like a PS2 port with higher res. Graphics are simply "nice" or "tolerable" at least.
The game is pretty good at Master Custom Classic Thief difficulty. I'll play a couple of hours more on PS3 and I'll put it on halt until the release of the PC version.


The game is easy with even on the highest difficulty. Metal Gear Solid 3 is much more difficult for example...
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 22:50    Post subject:
The game looks better than PS2/XBOX1 games, come on, but it looks so-so for a PS360 game.

That being said, as I said earlier, therefore don't expect it to look a lot better on better hardware : the game is dated graphically and it doesn't have anything to do with the platforms. Obviously bumping up the resolution to 1080p always help, imagine a game like The Last of Us in 1080p, it would look ages better....

Dishonored didn't look very good on PS360 either to be honest.... It looked maybe a little bit better but not a lot : it was still UE3. I thought it looked like shit actually for a PS360 game. Play a recent PS3 game like God of War Ascension, Beyond Two Souls, Bioshock Infinite or Tomb Raider and see the difference here. The PS3 is capable of much more than these games...

As somebody said above, it's likely some external team handled the thief port and ported the PS4 version which already looked so-so....

And I agree with above, I thought AC4 looked worse on PS3 than AC3.... The PS4 version looked a lot better, and looked what I expected it to look on PS3, but in 720p + aliasing....


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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 23:48    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:

Dishonored didn't look very good on PS360 either to be honest.... It looked maybe a little bit better but not a lot : it was still UE3. I thought it looked like shit actually for a PS360 game. Play a recent PS3 game like God of War Ascension, Beyond Two Souls, Bioshock Infinite or Tomb Raider and see the difference here. The PS3 is capable of much more than these games...


This! I found Dishonored a fulgy ass game on x360, and never finished it. But at least it had a cleaner look than Thief 4, with its vaseline motion blur and that shadow filter. Dishonoreds only flaw was ugly textures and awful lighting.


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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 13:07    Post subject:
This game is pretty bad, not that i didnt expect it.

Framerate sucks ass sometimes i really think its 15 fps especially when the camera is making some movements over the area, also i was less then 1 hour in the game and already an enemy was just patrolling an area and got stuck turning a 100000 circles around itself, clearly a bug but come on.. already in the first hour? dont you guys test your game or what, its not that i interacted with the guard on a weird spot its just doing its own patrolling.
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 15:26    Post subject:
The feedback for this game seems to be pretty desastrous, seen a youtube video of the ONE version and the textures looking not better than on PS3 or 360, how can this be lol?
I'm waiting for the PC version, need dat 60 fps fix, the framrate isn't that smooth on 360, and either way I've a capable PC, I can wait 2 days for dat Reloaded release Very Happy

Somebody finished it already? I've read the ending is pretty shitty? Someone can confirm?
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 15:39    Post subject:
deelix finished it O RLY?


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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 15:41    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
deelix finished it O RLY?


Is that a question or did he finished it already?
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 16:01    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 16:04    Post subject:
kiraschiro wrote:
cyclonefr wrote:
deelix finished it O RLY?


Is that a question or did he finished it already?

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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 16:12    Post subject:
he finished it already...


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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 16:14    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
he finished it already...


Damn he's fast, so how he liked the ending? Was it good or terrible?
Something I noticed is that the game endings in today's games are pretty horrible, the endings in old games were more satisfying.
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 16:17    Post subject:
You should read this thread instead of asking me to be deelix's messenger.


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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 16:21    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
You should read this thread instead of asking me to be deelix's messenger.


done that, he only wrote that he finished the main story, but he hasn't written how the story was overall and how the ending was, or do I miss something?
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