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DaLexy




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Apr 2014 12:35    Post subject:
DaLexy wrote:
So you are saying that BF4 = All Games ?

Neon wrote:


You should be the one who gets a Facepalm as you stated its impossible todo so and you give an example of 1 game aka BF4.

Only because its not done in BF4 doesnt mean its impossible !

And about GTA its just because its limited to the crappy Hardware, if consoles woudnt exist (GTA was developed just for PCs) it would work to have everything synced and no Ghost town. It would ofc need more Power and Bandwitdh but these days we have this sort of power allready available. This counts also for other Games (if those crappy Consoles woudnt be there).
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Apr 2014 12:37    Post subject:


I never said it was impossible, I said it was
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technically super-difficult
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DaLexy




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Apr 2014 12:49    Post subject:
Neon wrote:

But yes, obviously simulating a large city with tons of NPCs on every street, multiple vehicles and the players' ability to hack lights and most of the objects around them is completely possible, it's just Ubilol are 2 stoopid, amirite? lol wut


Your Sarcasm sounds like = impossible !
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Apr 2014 12:58    Post subject:
I was using sarcasm because you guys are talking like Ubisoft did this out of spite or sheer incompetence. Believe me, if there was an easy way to do it without wasting resources, they would do it.

They also experimented a lot with ship vs ship battles multiplayer in AC4, but ultimately the mode didn't make it because it was so technically impractical.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Apr 2014 13:55    Post subject:
It's not that technically difficult either. It's just more effort than your typical MP shooter. If it was technically impractical in general, we wouldn't have games like The Division coming up.

It's only impractical if you don't see such a multiplayer mode as a big enough selling point to invest too much in it. A proper Watch Dogs multiplayer would require some dedicated effort - more effort than making some add-on MP mode to get that box ticked. They might as well see it as a primarily single player experience, like Assassins Creed (its multiplayer is fairly basic, in comparison).

With that said, since they are saying they will have a free-roam multiplayer mode, that suggests that they are actually willing to work on something like that.
We don't really know what they have in mind for it at that point though.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 16:41    Post subject:
http://gamingbolt.com/watch_dogs-features-over-13000-unique-animations-resolutions-yet-to-be-finalized
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“Aiden Pearce’s Animation were built from the ground up for Watch_Dogs. Aiden has approximately 4000 animation files in game. Aiden has approximately 2300 navigation and interaction, and driving related animation files and about 1700 combat related files.

“Our AI enemy NPCs have a wide combat system, with several distinct mental states and in depth reactions to hacking ingredients . The enemy AI has almost 4000 animation clips.

“The biggest difference between Watch_Dogs and previous games in the genre is how much animation is dedicated to the living city. Civilians of Watch_Dogs Chicago have the greatest number of animations in our production. They can have occupational animations, conversations, interactions with the world and reactions to dynamic ingredients, a variety of reaction to various threats, and they come in a variety of sizes, attitudes with different clothing and props.

“There are over 5000 unique animation clips required for the living city civilian simulation in Watch_Dogs. Overall there are more than 13,000 animation clips needed to bring Watch_Dogs to life, mainly because the game is a systemic open world game that has to cover a massive amount of contexts with many random elements. Watch_Dogs has more animation than any Ubisoft Production to date.”
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 16:50    Post subject:
bla bla bla bla inb4 excuse for unoptimized port and cover hugging stationary AI as usual.
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 16:59    Post subject:
they write about a shitload of animations, i read that the game doesnt have a good physics engine and instead needs to have everything firmly animated.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 17:03    Post subject:
The physics engine wouldn't help with that would it?, they'd still need to do all the idle animations and movement/fighting animations.

Using Havok will of course avoid having to make scripted death animations or similar (Like the 2D death animations from old games like Doom.) as instead the body will just fall and slump, stuff like Euphoria could take this even further as to improve realism or how to say, depending on what else is desired bullet physics, wind, water, grass and such can also be simulated of course.
(Though it's usually pre-animated instead of a dynamic calculation since that's less costly on performance.)
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EternalBlueScreen




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 17:13    Post subject:
This game is a joke. The previous games made by this company is a joke. The company that makes this game is a joke. I'm laughing, but I am also crying because apparently in the video game industry shit floats better than anything and anyone can make it.
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DaLexy




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 17:35    Post subject:
EternalBlueScreen wrote:
This game is a joke. The previous games made by this company is a joke. The company that makes this game is a joke. I'm laughing, but I am also crying because apparently in the video game industry shit floats better than anything and anyone can make it.


Go home, youre drunk !
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 17:41    Post subject:
EternalBlueScreen wrote:
The previous games made by this company is a joke. .


games made by ubisoft montreal:

pop:Sands of time
splinter cell chaos theory
tom clancys rainbow six vegas 1 & 2
prince of persia

that's enough to prove that this "opinion" is shit.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 17:50    Post subject:
Assassin's Creed 1, 2 and 4 were all fantastic Smile I can't speak for ACR/ACB/AC3 since I haven't played them yet. Far Cry is fantastic, Far Cry 3 is fantastic, Blood Dragon is fantastic. Beyond Good & Evil is fantastic, Call of Juarez is fantastic, Gunslinger is fantastic, Cold Fear is fantastic, Dark Messiah is fantastic, Might & Magic V is fan... ah fuck it I won't even bother going on ^_^
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 17:57    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
... ah fuck it I won't even bother going on ^_^

thats the advantage of using ignore button Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 11:21    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Assassin's Creed 1, 2 and 4 were all fantastic Smile I can't speak for ACR/ACB/AC3 since I haven't played them yet. Far Cry is fantastic, Far Cry 3 is fantastic, Blood Dragon is fantastic. Beyond Good & Evil is fantastic, Call of Juarez is fantastic, Gunslinger is fantastic, Cold Fear is fantastic, Dark Messiah is fantastic, Might & Magic V is fan... ah fuck it I won't even bother going on ^_^

Might & Magic V was done by New World Computing Cool Face
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 11:30    Post subject:
Wasn't that IV and then Ubisoft got the rights, NWC disbanded and Ubi had some other team doing the MM V game(s)

EDIT: Nival
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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 11:40    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Wasn't that IV and then Ubisoft got the rights, NWC disbanded and Ubi had some other team doing the MM V game(s)

EDIT: Nival

No, that's Heroes of M&M V
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 12:08    Post subject:
@Overlord123

Published by Ubi though, so I count it Troll Dad (nonetheless, HoMMV was made by Nival so point taken)
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 12:12    Post subject:
bloodian wrote:

tom clancys rainbow six vegas 1 & 2


Laughing Reaction
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 12:13    Post subject:
BLaM! wrote:
bloodian wrote:

tom clancys rainbow six vegas 1 & 2


Laughing Reaction


Whaaa? Vegas 2 was awesome! Especially playing Terrorist Hunt \o/
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 12:43    Post subject:
Yep, I still play TH with couple friends from time to time.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 12:49    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Assassin's Creed 1, 2 and 4 were all fantastic Smile I can't speak for ACR/ACB/AC3 since I haven't played them yet. Far Cry is fantastic, Far Cry 3 is fantastic, Blood Dragon is fantastic. Beyond Good & Evil is fantastic, Call of Juarez is fantastic, Gunslinger is fantastic, Cold Fear is fantastic, Dark Messiah is fantastic, Might & Magic V is fan... ah fuck it I won't even bother going on ^_^


You forgot the Rayman games.

And the Just Dance series (J/K for this one Laughing)
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 12:59    Post subject:
" ah fuck it I won't even bother going on"

There was likely dozens more I forgot. Ubisoft piss me off as much as the next man, with the constant PC delays, UbiDRM, shitty optimisation, etc, but they've still made - and published - some truly fantastic games Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 13:57    Post subject:
I wish there was a proper sequel to PoD, which remains one of my favorite game ever... But I guess like Wipeout, it wouldn't sell so good these days...

I think I'd even be accepting a "HD" rerelease of it. I remember that every week/month they released FREE (yes FREE!) cars and races (which were amazing).

But now, not only are they barely releasing any new content for their game, but if they do (see PoP), they make you pay, because now they are DLC, not add ons Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 14:08    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
BLaM! wrote:
bloodian wrote:

tom clancys rainbow six vegas 1 & 2


Laughing Reaction


Whaaa? Vegas 2 was awesome! Especially playing Terrorist Hunt \o/


I played both in coop but I still prefer Raven Shield when I want my TH. Smile It's old and not perfect but Im having much more fun with it..
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 14:41    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
I wish there was a proper sequel to PoD, which remains one of my favorite game ever... But I guess like Wipeout, it wouldn't sell so good these days...

I think I'd even be accepting a "HD" rerelease of it. I remember that every week/month they released FREE (yes FREE!) cars and races (which were amazing).

But now, not only are they barely releasing any new content for their game, but if they do (see PoP), they make you pay, because now they are DLC, not add ons Laughing

PoD? Prince of Derpia? Laughing
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Pssst... Abload doesn't work here, they don't like us so they block hotlinking >:[
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