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4treyu




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th May 2014 17:16    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
lolozaur wrote:
no you cant, it says at beginning of the game you play only with people in ng


you can (well actually you are right but the outcome is the same) if the world master used a bonfire ascetic the boss will be ng+ Very Happy


Ahhhh, a bonfire ascetic. That would explain it Very Happy
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th May 2014 18:22    Post subject:
oh shit, thats a great trolling idea.
i ll start a troll character, give him around 10 bonfire ascetics from my current char, play up to lost sinner or smelter, use all 10 ascetics and summon people for the lulz
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th May 2014 18:26    Post subject:
very funny my friend


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Neon
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th May 2014 18:29    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
i ll start a troll character, give him around 10 bonfire ascetics from my current char, play up to lost sinner or smelter, use all 10 ascetics and summon people for the lulz



Wait, you can swap items between characters? Shocked
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th May 2014 18:33    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
The_Zeel wrote:
i ll start a troll character, give him around 10 bonfire ascetics from my current char, play up to lost sinner or smelter, use all 10 ascetics and summon people for the lulz



Wait, you can swap items between characters? Shocked


not directly, you can give it someone after summoning them, like a friend, and they can give it your other character.
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sanchin




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th May 2014 18:47    Post subject:
It won't work that way - the same message you're talking about stated, that you can play with people on the same playthrough AND same bonfire level. I think it's not possible to join someone's game if he used the ascetic and you didn't
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th May 2014 18:49    Post subject:
4treyu, did you accidentally burn a couple of ascetics instead of sublime dust? Cool Face
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th May 2014 19:01    Post subject:
after level 200 is really tough to level up, im 230 and i think it takes 250k souls for upgrade lol
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th May 2014 19:51    Post subject:
Laughing

Got invaded in NG+ when i reached a bonfire. Thought it was a NPC as the invader spawned just in front of the door behind me. After i got killed i saw in the Steam overlay it was a player Laughing

Had that again some minutes later at a boss where i summoned help. Thought both summons were NPCs, but after the boss i saw only one summon was a npc Laughing (he did a gesture and disappeared bit later than the NPC)

Pretty funny, if other people have "realistic" names and not something like xXxMasterRaperxXx
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PumpAction
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 00:47    Post subject:
Help, I don't know where to go next:
I have the following amount of bonfires->
Majula 1
Things Betwixt 1
Forest of Fallen Giants 2
Heide's Tower of Flame 2
Cathedral of Blue 1
No-man's Wharf 1
The Lost Bastille 5
Sinners' Rise 1
Bellfry Luna 1
Huntsman's Copse 3
Undead Purgatory 1
Harvest Valley 2
Earthen Peak 3
Iron Keep 2
Bellfry Sol 1
Shaded Woods 3
Doors of Pharros 2
Brightstone Cove Tseldora 2
Grave of Saints 1

And the following boss souls:
Last Giant
Pursuer
Dragonrider
Old Dragonslayer
Flexile Sentry
Ruin Sentinel
Belfry Gargoyle
Lost Sinner
Executioners Chariot
Skeleton Lord
Covetous Demon
Mytha, the Baneful Queen
Smelter Demon
Old Iron King
Scorpioness Najka
Royal Rat Authority
Duke's Dear Freja


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fable2




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 01:08    Post subject:
You need to head to the gutter, you can reach it from the large pit in majula
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djcyrax




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 01:41    Post subject:
can someone tell me where do i use my titanite slabs?
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PumpAction
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 01:47    Post subject:
djcyrax wrote:
can someone tell me where do i use my titanite slabs?

To upgrade your weapon to +9 or +10 but you have to get your weapon to +8/+9 first.

fable2 wrote:
You need to head to the gutter, you can reach it from the large pit in majula

I dropped down there, but this only brought me to the Grave of Saints and people summon me as gray spirit all the time. Do I have to proceed through that area? Nothing else left?!


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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 01:56    Post subject:
EDIT: nevermind


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fable2




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 01:57    Post subject:
There's a different entrance in the pit, there's an entrance to both grave of saints and the gutter in the pit.

edit: doesn't the door in the shaded woods needs him to have the 4 great souls?
and isn't one of them is in black gulch which is accessible from the gutter?
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Boneleech




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 02:15    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
djcyrax wrote:
can someone tell me where do i use my titanite slabs?

To upgrade your weapon to +9 or +10 but you have to get your weapon to +8/+9 first.

fable2 wrote:
You need to head to the gutter, you can reach it from the large pit in majula

I dropped down there, but this only brought me to the Grave of Saints and people summon me as gray spirit all the time. Do I have to proceed through that area? Nothing else left?!


To reach the gutter, you need to finish the Grave of trolls by killing the
 Spoiler:
 
Also if u finished the mines and spoke to the irish sounding npc, he can drop a ladder to you to reach the grave of trolls easier.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 02:35    Post subject:
Hmmmm so just fought Guardian Dragon in Aldia's Keep (one try more than enough). It was virtually effortless. Easiest boss in the whole game?
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fable2




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 03:24    Post subject:
Boneleech wrote:
PumpAction wrote:
djcyrax wrote:
can someone tell me where do i use my titanite slabs?

To upgrade your weapon to +9 or +10 but you have to get your weapon to +8/+9 first.

fable2 wrote:
You need to head to the gutter, you can reach it from the large pit in majula

I dropped down there, but this only brought me to the Grave of Saints and people summon me as gray spirit all the time. Do I have to proceed through that area? Nothing else left?!


To reach the gutter, you need to finish the Grave of trolls by killing the
 Spoiler:
 
Also if u finished the mines and spoke to the irish sounding npc, he can drop a ladder to you to reach the grave of trolls easier.


i did not have to do that, he just needs to find the other entrance in the pit which leads him over to the exploding guys trap, going to RRV is gonna make him end up way higher which is dangerous.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 09:56    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Hmmmm so just fought Guardian Dragon in Aldia's Keep (one try more than enough). It was virtually effortless. Easiest boss in the whole game?



Wut Laughing Covetus Demon, Magus Congregation?
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PumpAction
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 10:05    Post subject:
Magus was so easy, I didn't even realize that it was a proper fight Laughing Just went in and killed the big guys first and then just punched the zombies Laughing


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 10:35    Post subject:
Finished it (the story at least). Loved it and enjoyed like few games nowadays. It wasn't as good as DS1, but nearly just as atmospheric with some good changes and other not so much. The bosses in general might be the biggest weakness compared to DS1, even though Looking Glass Knight was one of the most epic boss fights I've ever played Very Happy

Anyway, this game is GOTY so far for me, I reckon only GTA V might dethrone it (if released this year Laughing ), otherwise this game doesn't break a sweat outclassing all that crap that is released every month. Now, I'd like to play NG+ and will certainly do more CO-OP, but maybe not immediately. This game is gonna stay installed a long time on my not so big HDD (unless I upgrade later this year that is ).

Neon wrote:
4treyu wrote:
Hmmmm so just fought Guardian Dragon in Aldia's Keep (one try more than enough). It was virtually effortless. Easiest boss in the whole game?



Wut Laughing Covetus Demon, Magus Congregation?


Magus congregation was a boss? Very Happy

For some reason Covetus fat fuck took me 2 tries, so yeah, the lame guardian dragon was definitely the easiest for me (same as his stupid brothers in Dragon Eyrie) xD I'm thinking of using some bonfire ascetics in that area for some TT farming.
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 10:45    Post subject:
overall dks1 is better, but the online aspect is far better in dks2, i am having so much fun duelling against dragon covenant people on the iron keep bridge. already got half the dragon scales necessary to max out the covenant in one sitting Very Happy
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 10:50    Post subject:
Well, I never had the chance to do online in DS1 so I couldn't comment about that. But yes, the online component in DS2 is really good and sometimes addicting Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 11:35    Post subject:
Online and PVP is very good and enjoyable in Dark Souls 2, it felt NEVER bad until now and the mechanics implemented are really good. The invasions are really not a problem.

F.e. against the bell gargoyles, the bonfire is like 15 seconds away and you can always burn a human effigy or go offline so that you don't get invaded (you might run into a red phantom, but only on top of the tower, not in the two rooms before the boss gate, so this won't even affect you at all!). And if you get invaded, the invaders can't refill their health but you can. My tip -> Mind your poise in PVP! You don't want to get stunned AT ANY time. And I never got invaded outside of the invasion areas (bellfry luna/bellfry sol, doors of pharros and at the rat sewers below majula). Quite contrary, before every boss and next to almost all bonfires, you'll find sunlight bros or white soap stone signs from players offering assistance Smile So many So Much Win situations already where another player saved my ass, or I saved his.

Once I was summoned as gray spirit to the bellfry sol and another guy was about to die and from a far I was able to kill the world owner last second. The other invader couldn't see me at that point, ran around the corner and waved his hands to say hello and thanks

It's also great to join as invader in an ongoing fight and you see that both are using only their fists and within seconds you know that you'll just back up and wait for them to finish their duel.
This game has to be experienced now, as long as there are so many online players and I can honestly say that most of them play it fair Smile (except from bastards at doors of pharros, but then again, it's their territory that you are entering and they have a holy mission to accomplish Very Happy )

Online is really fun, except for the sometimes very bad lag, but imo you can compensate for that with proper movement and timing Smile Of course it sucks that you have to dodge at the very first moment of an enemy attack but I can live with that. Hopefully they will improve in that aspect.

What I liked in Dark Souls more, was that the combat felt heavier. MUCH MUCH heavier. Everything is a bit light and fast now :/ And there is virtually no exploration in Dark Souls 2. Also the interconnection between areas is rather linear. You won't see any proper speed runs or different approaches to the game, unlike Dark Souls, where the level design and world design was much more complex and interesting. Also the enemies were fitting into their environments better than in DS2.

Still currently my GOTY.

Online in Dark Souls was not even half as good as in Dark Souls 2, as you either were the asshole or an asshole invaded you :/


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me7




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 13:40    Post subject:
Changing the invasion matchmaking from soul level to soul memory definitely helps to make the invasions more balanced. No more assholes who keep a low soul level throughout the game, grab endgame gear and go invade in early game areas.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 13:44    Post subject:
Like my SL 29 Pyro with Ascended Pyromancy Flame +5, great combustions and co? Cool Face

Yeah, invaders did not have any fun with me and I never used a red cracked orb, so I see my slate clean Smug


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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 16:10    Post subject:


(Looking at NPC's up close with the binoculars reveals that they are a bit odd looking, even the ones whom haven't hollowed out yet but at least they don't all giggle like crazy...which they had a tendency to do in the first Dark Souls game.)

That's what I get for giving her that outfit, shouldn't have added the helmet but it's too late now, could add another helmet but the way this apparently works is that she would then be wearing that helmet and discard the existing outfit so she'd be wearing nothing but whatever head piece I give her. Razz
(Along with the default rough cloth underwear of course.)


(I'll just give her the prisoner rags or something, they're cheap and easy to find.)


EDIT: Fuck it, maybe give her the Havel armor, not much else it's good for since you can barely move in it, can call her a stoner then too although it's more polished now than before so it's not as accurate as a description.
(But I need it for my bottomless bonfire collection so it has to be one of the generic outfits.)
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2014 23:58    Post subject:
I visited this little altar and thought it was a very realistic portrait of religion:


Cool Face Laughing

I think I'm near the end now, and that makes me a very sad panda. I want more Sad
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apcarr




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PostPosted: Fri, 9th May 2014 03:05    Post subject:
just got to brightstone cove tseldora on NG+ and I nearly shit myself when I got past the boulders...wasn't expecting that!
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fable2




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PostPosted: Fri, 9th May 2014 03:22    Post subject:
Just Finished it, after a five hours+ sitting, defeated a bunch of optional bosses and tied some loose ends, then went for the final boss. damn great game Smile

This vid describes i how i feel right now Razz

Code:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPsbDUZvfFo


time to finally relax and play some other non masochistic game


edit: and yes ixi, you're kinda near the end, just a couple more hours of butt rape
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