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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 20:05    Post subject: Sweden or Norway
Im halfway through with my medical training and now Im thinking on where should I go for my medical residency. Im particularly interested in norway and sweden, but Im finding it hard to decide between the two. Norway seems a bit more awesome, but the living costs seem higher and getting to a residency program there seems harder for a non-norwegian than for a non-swede in sweden. Which country is more awesomer? ;D

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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 20:13    Post subject:
Norway Very Happy
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 20:18    Post subject:
Sweden, they actively look for medical people all over Europe. Living costs is lower (but willing to bet the pay is as well, but you can save up more if you are strict).

For me Sweden is already hard enough on me for accessibility towards anything, and my perception Norway is even tougher on that part.

Language is very similar at least, I can understand Norwegians as much as Swedes (And I'm only living 1,5 year in Sweden).

In terms of Awesomeness I wouldn't go for any of them (Tho if you live in a big city it's totally different). Check up on Kalmar btw, they were recruiting quite heavily for medical personnel in Belgium, but if you can: just go for the big cities

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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 20:22    Post subject:
Whats wrong with smaller sized cities in scandinavia? I mean like 50k people cities.

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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 20:29    Post subject:
Not much to do, goods are harder to get, everything is lower priority. If you need specific services that usually will cost you at least a 2 hour drive (Do mind I'm more whiny on that since I come from Belgium ).

I'm talking of Sweden btw, and this is in the eyes of a foreigner
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 20:34    Post subject:
I suggest you do go to Norway. My cousin lives and works at Sweden. He said even Swedes themselves try to get work at Norway. Laughing

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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 20:41    Post subject:
Well it's rather easy to explain that: If you hop borders you earn more, just like Norwegians hopping borders to shop: they save more. Or should I think Swedish stores are better because of that? Razz

Willing to bet life isn't THAT different when you compare the both.
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 20:55    Post subject:
I'd say Norway. Try to aim for proximity to the swedish border and you can just have a trip to Sweden whenever you need to stock up on food and such stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 20:56    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
Well it's rather easy to explain that: If you hop borders you earn more, just like Norwegians hopping borders to shop: they save more. Or should I think Swedish stores are better because of that? Razz

Willing to bet life isn't THAT different when you compare the both.


True. Same way like Finns shop at Estonia. Because alcohol and cigarettesl are much cheaper and now Finland has sugar tax or smt. So soon they will buy everything from here Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 22:08    Post subject:
Its pretty much like this; Norway is fucking awesome if you don't care about alcohol or tobacco Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 23:21    Post subject:
If you're going for Norway, stay away from the big cities.
Go for the smaller ones (20-30k people or less). Big cities in Norway are shit.

As for what deelix said, not really true.
Good luck finding a norwegian over the age of 14 who doesnt get piss drunk every weekend.
Might be expensive, but getting your hands on homebrew/illegal/smuggled is as easy as going to the shop.

As for which country to choose, that really just depends on taste.
Salary will be higher in Norway, but so will living costs. But if you stay in the smaller places, it's cheaper. You can rent a whole house for less than 5k NOK/month.

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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 23:30    Post subject:
Kristian wrote:
If you're going for Norway, stay away from the big cities.
Go for the smaller ones (20-30k people or less). Big cities in Norway are shit.

As for what deelix said, not really true.
Good luck finding a norwegian over the age of 14 who doesnt get piss drunk every weekend.
Might be expensive, but getting your hands on homebrew/illegal/smuggled is as easy as going to the shop.

As for which country to choose, that really just depends on taste.
Salary will be higher in Norway, but so will living costs. But if you stay in the smaller places, it's cheaper. You can rent a whole house for less than 5k NOK/month.


5k for a house is damn cheap Surprised

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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Jul 2014 23:38    Post subject:
I hate big cities in Norway, everything (and I mean everything) is so damn overpriced. Renting an apartment where I live is less than half the price of one in Oslo.

Even 5k a month for an apartment is cheap here, so dunno what kind of house Kristian is talking about, but then again western Norway is western Norway Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 03:31    Post subject:
I'd like to see the house you can rent here for 5k NOK a month.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 08:53    Post subject:
My sister rented various houses in this district, and for 4k she got a old house. Not good for winter, since it's wasnt the best insulated house.
For 5k she got a newer, nicer house with a big lot and down by the ocean.
Was a really nice place.

But just 20 min away in bigger city you pay 8-20k to rent,and thats for apartment, not house.

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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 09:56    Post subject:
When I stayed in Oslo for a few weeks my impression were that norwegians were rather introvert. Not so much when drunk but when at work it was really only foreigners who cared to talk a bit. It didn't even seem like the norwegian talked to each other:|.
This I think has been different when I visited Sweden. Why no wish for Denmark by the way Sad.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 10:29    Post subject:
Screw both - go for Mogadishu

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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 11:29    Post subject:
isnt it pretty much the same country, like india and pakistan, and then someone went and split them up for fun? Cool Face
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 11:47    Post subject:
Atropa wrote:
When I stayed in Oslo for a few weeks my impression were that norwegians were rather introvert. Not so much when drunk but when at work it was really only foreigners who cared to talk a bit. It didn't even seem like the norwegian talked to each other:|.
This I think has been different when I visited Sweden. Why no wish for Denmark by the way Sad.
This is sadly very true, especially in Oslo. Everyone isn't like this of course, but a lot of people are great when you get to know them... but very hard to get to know.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 12:21    Post subject:
Its true here too.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 12:30    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
Screw both - go for Mogadishu


So Sweden? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 13:12    Post subject:
farne wrote:
Ankh wrote:
Screw both - go for Mogadishu


So Sweden? Laughing


Göteborg or Mogadishu, looks the same.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 13:16    Post subject:
It's fun to be white, not Eastern and foreigner in Sweden, Swedes whine to you about them damn foreigners!
Then you say: I'm a foreigner.
And the response I get is: Yeah, but you're one of the good ones.

Still haven't figured out what the criteria is for those Poker Face
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 13:22    Post subject:
Not dark.

Bonus points for not being muslim Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 13:27    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Not dark.

Bonus points for not being muslim Laughing


Laughing

It's sad tho, I mean one time I even heard: That doesn't count because you are Belgian lol wut
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 13:28    Post subject:
fissesvin wrote:
farne wrote:
Ankh wrote:
Screw both - go for Mogadishu


So Sweden? Laughing


Göteborg or Mogadishu, looks the same.


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 13:35    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
It's fun to be white, not Eastern and foreigner in Sweden, Swedes whine to you about them damn foreigners!
Then you say: I'm a foreigner.
And the response I get is: Yeah, but you're one of the good ones.

Still haven't figured out what the criteria is for those Poker Face


You're a good one because you are on friendly terms with the person saying it.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 13:43    Post subject:
Actually, I think it has more to do about culture than skin color when they call someone "one of the good ones"

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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 17:00    Post subject:
Goon wrote:
I suggest you do go to Norway. My cousin lives and works at Sweden. He said even Swedes themselves try to get work at Norway. Laughing


Whats wrong with that? Lots of Norwegians probably come to Sweden aswell?

I worked construction in Norway a few months because the pay was insane.


I would go with Sweden since its a bit cheaper all in all
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jul 2014 18:13    Post subject:
is there a reason you are leaving Estonia? you can't make good money in your own country or what?

i'm also from Baltic country and have many of friends who emigrated. most of them don't seem to be very happy abroad.

i work in IT sector so maybe it's different than medical sector, but i make almost as much money as my friends in germany or UK and living costs here are like 5x less Very Happy

i just don't get the appeal of emigration, slightly better pay but high chance of depression and loneliness, feeling out of place, no family nearby. not worth it IMO.
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