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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Aug 2014 04:55    Post subject:
What's the best Nintendo DS emulator nowadays and can it emulate 3D?
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Aug 2014 05:43    Post subject:
3DS emulation is in early stages these days. no games at all yet.maby not even the next year or 2.
on original DS the best so far as I tested:
desmume
and no$4gba
been long time since I tested any of those though. on android you have "drasticDs" which cost money. a bit.


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Aug 2014 06:29    Post subject:
All I want is to play Monster Hunter 4 on my PC T_T
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Aug 2014 11:25    Post subject:
mike20599 wrote:
What's the best Nintendo DS emulator nowadays and can it emulate 3D?


iDeaS or DeSmuMe are the two best NDS emulators right now, but no support for 3DS and it's unlikely for many, many years. You won't be playing in a year Razz If you want to keep up on info, check out the GBAtemp thread for Citra, the only public project so far.

http://gbatemp.net/threads/citra-new-3ds-emulator.365154/

ramalan wrote:
Same thing, guess I am doomed to play it on phone Razz


Well, you could get an MHL/HDMI lead for your phone and play it on a TV or monitor.. use the phone as a controller \o/ I'm not sure what to suggest about AndroVM though, it's not like Blustacks which is a wrapper, AndroVM *is* Android through and through, in my experience and testing there hasn't been a single game that didn't work - even the Kairosoft and SquareEnix games worked perfectly, which are notoriously unplayable under BlueStacks.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Aug 2014 11:29    Post subject:
This thread is excellent. Love it when someone updates the thread with "now you can fully play xxx game 60fps no lag anymore" Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Aug 2014 12:27    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
mike20599 wrote:
What's the best Nintendo DS emulator nowadays and can it emulate 3D?


iDeaS or DeSmuMe are the two best NDS emulators right now, but no support for 3DS and it's unlikely for many, many years. You won't be playing in a year Razz If you want to keep up on info, check out the GBAtemp thread for Citra, the only public project so far.

http://gbatemp.net/threads/citra-new-3ds-emulator.365154/

ramalan wrote:
Same thing, guess I am doomed to play it on phone Razz


Well, you could get an MHL/HDMI lead for your phone and play it on a TV or monitor.. use the phone as a controller \o/ I'm not sure what to suggest about AndroVM though, it's not like Blustacks which is a wrapper, AndroVM *is* Android through and through, in my experience and testing there hasn't been a single game that didn't work - even the Kairosoft and SquareEnix games worked perfectly, which are notoriously unplayable under BlueStacks.


Could you check the Wayward Souls with your androvm? it can be easily downloaded from many sites (like apkmania), its around 40mb.

Do I need any specials ova files? i had androVM_vbox86t_4.1.1_r4-20121119-gapps-houdini-flash.ova

Anyway its not a big deal, game should eventually be released to pc afair. I could put video on my tv via wifi/software and connect ps3 pad to phone via cable/software, configure it and play it this way but thats just too much hassle, dont have the proper cables. If it would run fine on pc I could just play it on tv via hdmi and connect wireless pad to pc (if those android emulators can even properly run with pads lol)
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Aug 2014 13:18    Post subject:
Theres also 3DMoo but that's also a long way off supporting commercial games
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Aug 2014 13:54    Post subject:
I'm away from home right now, won't be back for a few days so there's nothing I can do from here I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Oct 2014 05:05    Post subject:
weeks old but huge progress on PS3 emulation speed... mostly on homebrews stuffs


DOOM Homebrew PS3 full speed


Scogger HD Homebrew PS3 full speed and full sounds working


Sonic CD PS3 full speed


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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Oct 2014 05:09    Post subject:
new 3DS emulator is out: TronDS



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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Oct 2014 05:39    Post subject:
Damn, that's impressive. This emulator is as powerful as my washing machine which I once used to play Doom just for fun. Small screen but it is still doable.
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Oct 2014 10:13    Post subject:
Kein wrote:
Damn, that's impressive. This emulator is as powerful as my washing machine which I once used to play Doom just for fun. Small screen but it is still doable.


I know you're being sarcastic, but if you knew anything about emulation you wouldn't. Having a (even very rudimental) PPU Recompiler IS quite impressive for such a complex hardware and such a young project.
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Oct 2014 10:23    Post subject:
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I know you're being sarcastic, but if you knew anything about emulation you wouldn't. Having a (even very rudimental) PPU Recompiler IS quite impressive for such a complex hardware and such a young project.

+1,Emulation,as I said few times,is not 'magical wand',it's evolution and progress for years to come.

PC is now getting decent numbers of ex older gen exclusives from 3rd parties,which far better then emulation,in most cases,so in the end,we might not be able to play all the PS3 games for years,but key games like FF XIII and it's sequels are on reach(and maybe some more to come),aside from PS3 Sony exclusives,the number of 3rd parties games PS3 is worth getting for is getting slimmer,I won't be surprised if 3rd parties games like MGS4 will be ported over eventually.


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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Oct 2014 11:56    Post subject:
I joked and teased but in the end, we really WILL be playing FFXIII on PC by Christmas It's also nice to see some progress on 3DS emulation, though I guess we're still a long way off yet.
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Oct 2014 01:38    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:
Kein wrote:
Damn, that's impressive. This emulator is as powerful as my washing machine which I once used to play Doom just for fun. Small screen but it is still doable.


I know you're being sarcastic, but if you knew anything about emulation you wouldn't.


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But you are right, I know nothing about emulation. After all, I'm not the guy with spoken knowledge who told us we will be playing PS3 games on emu within a year. Almost a year passed since then and only few months left - man, I can't wait to play Heavy Rain or GoW3.
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Oct 2014 10:29    Post subject:
Kein wrote:
The_Leaf wrote:
Kein wrote:
Damn, that's impressive. This emulator is as powerful as my washing machine which I once used to play Doom just for fun. Small screen but it is still doable.


I know you're being sarcastic, but if you knew anything about emulation you wouldn't.


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But you are right, I know nothing about emulation. After all, I'm not the guy with spoken knowledge who told us we will be playing PS3 games on emu within a year. Almost a year passed since then and only few months left - man, I can't wait to play Heavy Rain or GoW3.


Who said anything about games being playable in a year?
"Impressive progress" != "being able to run commercial games full speedz omg!!11!!!"
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Oct 2014 10:33    Post subject:
Someone, who read that article on Kotaku, which mentioned "how easy it is emulate PS3" did. Let's not point fingers.
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Oct 2014 11:19    Post subject:
Kein wrote:
Someone, who read that article on Kotaku, which mentioned "how easy it is emulate PS3" did. Let's not point fingers.


But you were quoting me Laughing

No problems tho, I agree with you, in fact I said something along the lines of "don't expect anything playable for at least 5 years or something" some time ago in this very thread.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 22:08    Post subject:
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-gamecubewii-emulator-dolphin-got-a-turbocharge/

I wonder if this improves The Last Story or F-Zero X? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 22:20    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-gamecubewii-emulator-dolphin-got-a-turbocharge/

I wonder if this improves The Last Story or F-Zero X? Very Happy

It does, those are playable now.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 22:29    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 22:31    Post subject:
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Xenoblade Chronicles: 40% faster
Noice So Much Win
Maybe I'll give it a go again on this heap of junk Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 22:41    Post subject:
Q9400@2.66GHZ. Beat that!

I'm gonna give it a go. I got it running at like 45-50 the last time I tried. Maybe I'll finally get to play it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 22:43    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-gamecubewii-emulator-dolphin-got-a-turbocharge/

I wonder if this improves The Last Story or F-Zero X? Very Happy

It does, those are playable now.


Holy. Fuck.

The Last Story doesn't chug down to unplayable levels in town any more.. it's full speed Shocked F-Zero GX is still unplayable though, halves in framerate during anything 3D .. such as displaying your racer Facepalm Sad I hate trying to get this game working, everyone else has no troubles but it has never run full speed for me.



Check out that delicious 25fps half speed Sad If I set the game to 60hz for 60fps, it goes screwy and ends up running at 120 grinhurt

~edit~

Fixed the double speed thing by disabling vbeam hack. Still doesn't run full speed though, 25/30fps depending on Hz selection and it's slowwwwwwwwwwww. Only speeds up to full speed in menus or randomly on a track with little going on Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Oct 2014 03:31    Post subject:
Wow, xenoblade *seems* to run at full speed (unless there is some really really demanding stuff outside the first fight and the first area in the woods Sad), nice job with the optimization.

But man, configuring the derptroller in dolphin was a nightmare Crying or Very sad Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Oct 2014 03:44    Post subject:
25FPS. WHOA THATS LIEK CINEMATIC!!1

I really hope they can get the 3ds emu done by the time MH4u comes out Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Oct 2014 03:48    Post subject:
@tonizito

What's your proc, bud? As with most emulators, Dolphin is highly CPU dependent and you need a fast and efficient proc for best results.

@Boneleech

It's likely just me to be honest, there are countless videos and posts online from people playing F-Zero GX at full speed with enormous visual upgrades. I've never been able to Sad Not on any single version of Dolphin *ever* has F-Zero GX ran full speed for me. I must be doing something bizarrely strange :\
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Oct 2014 03:55    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
@tonizito

What's your proc, bud? As with most emulators, Dolphin is highly CPU dependent and you need a fast and efficient proc for best results.
Q8200@3.3GHz

From what I've played so far (not much, granted) it ran without any slowdowns from 30fps (Sad). I'll play some more tomorrow to see if it's stable or if big battles/towns full of npc's make it crumble.


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Oct 2014 03:59    Post subject:
Well 30fps is what the game runs at anyway, or 25fps for the PAL version, so you're okay Smile The opening starter battle is the hardest you'll be hit for a long, long time.
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