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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 12:15    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
I see no evidence, only hysteria.

Get a fucking scale. Look at how much Valve did for PC gaming.

As usual, the bullshit apologist. Waiting for that one thing they do that annoys you and turns you 180. Rolling Eyes

It was pointed to me this is a sarcastic post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 12:24    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 12:29    Post subject:
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After that, Chesko and aqqh took the scorched earth approach and took everything off of the workshop page, including Fore’s comments.


Yup, just like Laast and his "Purity" pack (which apparently took 300 hours to make but would never have been released without the paid-mod option on Steam... funny that) who was deleting comments on the page.

I've got no problem with modders making money from their work, but via donations or other kinds of funding, outright actively charging for skins and textures and models goes against the very nature of modding and sets an awful precedent. This is out and out DLC territory and I don't care how many excuses they rush to give. If it's bad for Bethesda to sell Horse Armour, if it's bad for EA to sell clothing in Sims, then it's bad for "modders" to sell weapon skins.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 12:43    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
It was pointed to me this is a sarcastic post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law


Very Happy Laughing

Not only is it a sarcastic post, it's only a slight paraphrase from a post of a certain...user regarding a certain big RPG title coming out in less than a month Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 12:55    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 12:57    Post subject:
Tungsten wrote:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=430955234


Set price will be 3€. Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 12:59    Post subject:
im 99% sure that it is a sarcastic response to the Valve monetizing decision
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:00    Post subject:
It's only getting worse from this point on... this is just the first step.
We've seen countless of examples with other practices in the past 2 decades. They will find a way to lock it down and secure their money.
The ones enjoying their hobby get a degraded experience all because millions weren't enough anymore.


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:04    Post subject:
Tungsten wrote:
im 99% sure that it is a sarcastic response to the Valve monetizing decision


Thanks for pointing that out, Sherlock. Very deductive of you Whistle me elmo
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:04    Post subject:


First they came for the arcade machines, and I did not speak out—
Because I did not care about arcade machines

Then they came for the consoles, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a consolefag.

Then they came for PC — and there was not enough of us to stand up for PC
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:09    Post subject:
One big fat can of worms has just exploded.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:16    Post subject:
Bayerss wrote:
Tungsten wrote:
im 99% sure that it is a sarcastic response to the Valve monetizing decision


Thanks for pointing that out, Sherlock. Very deductive of you Whistle me elmo


thanks for being a complete cunt, but who knows nowdays ?
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:19    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:19    Post subject:
They're also deleting links to donations/patreons on mods in the workshop.

Fuck Valve.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:19    Post subject:
Who cares. Mods will still be free and stuff like black mesa should be paid for


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:20    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
They're also deleting links to donations/patreons on mods in the workshop.

Fuck Valve.


Exactly, how far will Valve or people in general go with this. THAT was my point


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:20    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Who cares. Mods will still be free and stuff like black mesa should be paid for


gr8 b8 m8.


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:22    Post subject: I have left.
I have left.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:32    Post subject: *****
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:39    Post subject:
Beginning of the end. Unscrupulous greedy scumbags have taken away the one thing that made PC gaming so unique and enjoyable, now they're all mini-EAs.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:39    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
http://garry.tv/2015/04/24/paying-for-mods/


what a dick
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:40    Post subject:
How about licensed publisher-approved modding only? Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:43    Post subject:
So, now I'm going to have to pay for all those cities:skyline mods?;(


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:49    Post subject: *****
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:50    Post subject:
Didn't you know? It's bought him two houses and many new cars! Of COURSE he supports people selling mods!

>_>
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 14:06    Post subject: *****
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Lathieza




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 14:33    Post subject:
Obviously im really against this whole thing but it makes me wonder, for example, GTA V is released both for steam and on social club (where i own it). So this would mean that if i wanted mods legit i have to rebuy the steam version first to be able to get them?


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 14:39    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
So, now I'm going to have to pay for all those cities:skyline mods?;(

Of course you are going to.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 16:30    Post subject:
Lathieza wrote:
Obviously im really against this whole thing but it makes me wonder, for example, GTA V is released both for steam and on social club (where i own it). So this would mean that if i wanted mods legit i have to rebuy the steam version first to be able to get them?

Just because Bethesda did it, doesn't mean that every developer/publisher is going to jump on the bandwagon. Consoles are still the primary focus for most, so I imagine the current status quo for most games will mostly remain as-is, with modding being unsupported if not outright intentionally inhibited.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 16:38    Post subject:
R* supporting modding, that would be a good one.


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