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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st May 2015 19:14    Post subject:
Slizza wrote:
Looks like i will be hoping on the 980Ti bandwagon when it drops.

you and me and many other 780 owners Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st May 2015 19:32    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
JBeckman wrote:
A function of DirectX 12 called Heterogeneous Multiadapter which seems to be able to use the integrated GPU and dedicated GPU together. Smile

Yeah... when a GTX 970 is in over its head, the iGPU can save the day! Laughing

And in this UT4 demo that actually works Laughing

If they can offload part of the computation to the onboard GPU, go for it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st May 2015 20:08    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
Slizza wrote:
Looks like i will be hoping on the 980Ti bandwagon when it drops.

you and me and many other 780 owners Wink

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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 14:20    Post subject:
any eta on new cards?

Man, I wish I had a proper card for this summer, but doesn't look likely. I'm not eager to buy a new 970/980, only a ti version or something new entirely with dx12/12.1 in mind.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 14:30    Post subject:
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According to a report from a Chinese web-site, Nvidia has moved the launch window of its GeForce GTX 980 Ti to 16th – 26th of May


http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/nvidia-to-launch-geforce-gtx-980-ti-next-month-geforce-gtx-980-metal-in-the-works-report/

so we'll see.....if its correct Rolling Eyes

but yeah... don't bother with those 3.5 gbram cards Cool Face
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 21:44    Post subject:
according to rumors 980Ti might be slower than titan x, unlike 780Ti which was faster than original titan. titan x is GM200-400 and 980 ti is GM200-310. but these are just codenames, what really matters is performance and price.
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd May 2015 01:37    Post subject:
980Ti should be slower than Titan X not to cannibalize that product. Titan had actually other market than gamers after 980Ti hit the market. It was a very cheap card with good Double Precision performance. But Titan X has shitty DP performance (about 1/8 of a Titan). So its more advanced professional use is limited. Than it wouldn't make sense to make 980Ti faster than it cause there wouldn't be a market for it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd May 2015 11:06    Post subject:
You can presume that those that wanted a Titan X, already bought one.
So the 980TI being faster (or on par) than the Titan X wouldn't surprise me.


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd May 2015 14:12    Post subject:
I wonder if the GTX 980 "metal" rumors are true. If so i will probably end up with one of those seeing as i wont be upgradign my PC until july or august time.


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th May 2015 16:50    Post subject:
Just saw that one. Whether it's real or not, that is possible with HBM. Lots of real estate saved when you don't have to stuff the GDDR5 chips on there.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th May 2015 17:00    Post subject:
Would be nice with a shorter, lighter GPU for once while still being high-end. Very Happy
(But the cooling solution might still take some space so height might still a concern though if the default is water cooled it should be fairly flat.)
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th May 2015 17:44    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Just saw that one. Whether it's real or not, that is possible with HBM. Lots of real estate saved when you don't have to stuff the GDDR5 chips on there.

there are small high end cards with GDDR5. GTX970 is a nice example, even smaller than this radeon.

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PostPosted: Thu, 7th May 2015 19:56    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
Werelds wrote:
Just saw that one. Whether it's real or not, that is possible with HBM. Lots of real estate saved when you don't have to stuff the GDDR5 chips on there.

there are small high end cards with GDDR5. GTX970 is a nice example, even smaller than this radeon.


Yeah, but those also run hotter and louder than regular cards (at least the Gigabyte one does, this Asus is newer, haven't checked any reviews on it yet) because there's a lot more off-die components crammed much closer together that do still consume power and thus emit heat Smile

It's not that you can't squeeze it all together, it's just that it makes cooling it a bit harder. On a longer card, you can make better use of airflow. With HBM you have fewer of those components and while there's more heat coming off the package, that also still runs through the heatsink, meaning you're not relying on pure air for cooling.
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th May 2015 17:54    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th May 2015 21:37    Post subject:
I just got my gtx 970 yesterday. Upgraded from 560 ti, performance increase is huge! I am so happy with the purchase Very Happy (also got witcher 3 + arkham knight promotion codes)
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th May 2015 12:17    Post subject:
in some locations it's possible to get GTA5, Witcher 3 and Arkham Knight with 970 purchase, hell of a deal.
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th May 2015 12:27    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
in some locations it's possible to get GTA5, Witcher 3 and Arkham Knight with 970 purchase, hell of a deal.

ASUS also has a cashback deal running (atleast in Germany) at the moment until 09.06.15.
35€ back if you buy a Strix 970
http://www.asus-insider.de/aktionen/vgacashback/

I was pretty much set on getting a MSI 970 4G but now I don't know Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th May 2015 22:04    Post subject:
390X Forever, tho i have feeling that it will be insane card.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th May 2015 19:21    Post subject:
Sold my two GALAX/KFA2 970 EXOC:s and order two of these babies.. Smile







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PostPosted: Thu, 14th May 2015 20:01    Post subject:
I have no idea or rather I can see no reason why you would change up for some fandangled differences. What were the reasons? The performance will be the same.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th May 2015 20:48    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
I have no idea or rather I can see no reason why you would change up for some fandangled differences. What were the reasons? The performance will be the same.


Here are few 'ideas':

- I got about 650€ for my two old cards
- Zotac cards are about 390€ each including shipping and The Witcher 3 & Batman: Arkham Knight (worth about 50-60€) / card
- Zotac has 5 years warranty, KFA2/GALAX 2 years
- Based on some reviews Zotac cards MIGHT overclock a bit more even though the difference is barely noticable
- Zotac cards have bigger and most likely quieter fans including much bigger heatsink
- By selling 2 copies of The Witcher 3 and 2 copies of Batman: Arkham Night I can get back about 100-120€ which reduces the origianl price from 780€ -> 680€


Yes 5 years warranty might be useless but it definitely can help during the sale of these cards sometimes in the future. After all this is my hobby so it was a pretty small price for this kind of fun if you are into using different cards and playing with some overclocks. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th May 2015 18:13    Post subject:
Hey guys, i need your help. I'm buying a new, budget card for 1080p gaming and would appreciate if you could help me out.

I can't spend much money since im buying new monitor, case, ssd and ram too and i decided not to go with ATI this time. I had 3 ATi cards so far and would, just for the sake of it, go with NVIDIA this time.

I dont have any more money to spend to go for higher tier card so i decided to buy 960 gtx. Now, for the last few days i've been going back and forth and still cant decide which one to take between these two cards:

Gigabyte GTX 960 G1 Gaming 4GB GDDR5
Gainward GTX 960 Phantom GLH 2GB GDDR 5

I've seen a lot of reviews of G1, how good it is but i've seen only one "in-depth" review of Gainward's 960 GTX. By the looks of it, Gainward's 960 GTX is somewhat faster and if im not mistaken, probably the most overclocked 960 gtx out of the box. So, why there isnt any more info and tests about Gainward? Am i missing something? Is there something wrong with Gainward?

Also, im fully aware that differences between different OCed 960 gtxs are marginal at best (1-3 fps?). Is Gainward's 960 GTX better than Gigabytes's and still has some room for overclocking (tho i would rather not overclock anything and just go for the best stock/OCed 960 gtx out of the box)?

I would really appreciate your advice on which card to take:

Gigabyte or Gainward?

Thanks everyone.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th May 2015 18:22    Post subject:
You'd think between those two it wouldn't be a question at all.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th May 2015 18:24    Post subject:
Personally I would take 4GB over 2GB. Nowdays 2GB might not be enough even for 1080p resolution if you turn AA on etc..


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th May 2015 18:27    Post subject:
http://www.techspot.com/review/946-nvidia-geforce-gtx-960/
http://www.eteknix.com/gainward-phantom-glh-geforce-gtx-960-2gb-graphics-card-review/
http://www.hardware-boom.com/review-gainward-geforce-gtx-960-phantom-glh-testing-2-way-sli-geforce-gtx-960/
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/overview-of-geforce-gtx-960-releases.html



Morphineus wrote:
You'd think between those two it wouldn't be a question at all.
Rolling Eyes Mad

And 4GB VRAMz for a 128 bit bus... hmmmmz, not sure if it's worth it.
No chance at all to jump up for a 970? Maybe sell TW3 and arkham city codes to get some of the investment back?


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th May 2015 18:42    Post subject:
That's what i was thinking too but reviews i read are kinda mixed. Some say that 128bit bus with 4gb is too weak to fully utilize those extra 2GB and some others say that in some games (Assassins's Creed Unity, to be more precise) those extra 2gb on card provides massive boost. I know, it's just one game tho. Smile

Anyhow, thanks for trying to help me out guys. I really appreciate you taking the time and effort to write back. You are the best.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th May 2015 18:45    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
No chance at all to jump up for a 970? Maybe sell TW3 and arkham city codes to get some of the investment back?


I would be super happy if i could get something better, but unfortunately due to other stuff i'd like to buy, it's a no-go.
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