Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain [R]
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 18:15    Post subject:
So from what i am reading, the missions don't really seem to deliver a challenge. I guess there is no difficulty option available?


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 18:19    Post subject:
Yes there is, but we chose to ignore it, so we can be grumpy about it!

Just kidding, no there isn't. You can deactivate reflex mode and thats it. Later on there will harder versions of previous missions, which may provide a challenge. Only took a quick peek at one boss, that killed me extremely fast multiple times, where as the normal version was super easy.


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wawrzul




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 18:21    Post subject:
No difficulty option. There are replays of missions with on-site equipment procuring. No fucking reflexes (who plays with them anyway?), guns, mines, grenades etc. One detection and you fail.

However doing a mission completely stealthy is very hard usually. At first guards dont really notice that guys, mortars or materials are missing. But later on, when they do know that Big Boss is around (you notice that when eavesdropping on guards later on in the game) they radio missing personnel/materials to HQ and you're done with stealth.
However, like it was said few posts ago - the burden of the game being difficult is on you. Turn off reflex, all the crutches and play like Big Boss would have plated Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 18:45    Post subject:
harry_theone wrote:
I remember 3DM doing this before and then someone else cracked it, fuck them if that's the way they wanna do this.

Meseder wrote:
fearwhatnow wrote:


I haven't seen anyone here cheering about Kojima and praising the game as a perfect one. In fact nobody here gives a shit if this game is a 8/10, 9/10 or 10/10. Take your post to the Steam forums.


What makes you think nobody cares and who are you to speak for everyone? I've read some really vague posts how "amazing" the game is, but without real explanation. I just mentioned some negative stuff, what's so amazing about it then?


I ONLY SEE YOU SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE Who here hailed Kojima in any way? Go troll in the Steam forums you nut.

Fucking idiot and your holy grail WAB "suggestion" video. By saying "no real world like in FC3" while saying MGS V was repetitive (just like FC3 was, LOL) you disqualified yourself anyway, learn to deal with others thinking different and bring in better arguments (like we did a few pages ago (myself included)) or - to speak out loud for everyone else - take your account and GTFO.

edit: Don't bother answering, you're ignored.


LOL, ignored already by someone who has Big Boss as an avatar. Obviously touched a soft spot. But keep on fighting, brother.

Anyone remember Dragon Age 3? The hype and praise it got after the release. Wow, such amazing graphics and "open world" with lots of (pointless) stuff to do. A year later and it's considered just as bad as DA2, maybe even worse. But this will never happen to MGS5, because it's just as perfect as DA3 was, right?

I don't give a fuck what kind of milk you drink or how you decide to waste your life away, but if you're blinded by whatever you have developed in your mind, almost in denial and unable to see through your rose-tinted glasses when something's a bit off, then it gets kind of sad.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 18:51    Post subject:
I think the point of most of the later MGS games is supposed to be the story - you play the game, but you do it as part of the world. I kinda think the game would be VERY frustrating if enemies could actually see you in a realistic cone of vision, rather than the way it's portrayed in the MGS series - half the missions in MGS3 would be virtually impossible to stealth if vision was realistic Laughing

I think the main problem I see now tho, is people want 'realism' - or what they perceive to be realistic. MGS isn't realistic. In any possible way. Come into the game expecting Thief: Call of Duty Edition or Splinter Cell Solid, and you'll be woefully disappointed.

I imagine the very same people, being given a copy of MGS2 on the PS2, would take to teh Net to rain hard whinnying about the Mantis Boss fight and the controller switcheroo. These same people would utterly miss the point.

And yes, the storyline is utterly complicated and confusing. And yes, it doesn't entirely make sense. But who cares, it's no more absurd than toxin-drinking monster slayers with the power of anti-STD's.


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wawrzul




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 18:53    Post subject:
Wow, first FC3 and now Dragon Age. I lol'd Laughing

Short story - nobody said the game is perfect. It's flawed as fuck (ya rly) but still manages to be simply fantastic. Just like a rough diamond.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 18:56    Post subject:
Meseder wrote:
harry_theone wrote:
I remember 3DM doing this before and then someone else cracked it, fuck them if that's the way they wanna do this.

Meseder wrote:


What makes you think nobody cares and who are you to speak for everyone? I've read some really vague posts how "amazing" the game is, but without real explanation. I just mentioned some negative stuff, what's so amazing about it then?


I ONLY SEE YOU SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE Who here hailed Kojima in any way? Go troll in the Steam forums you nut.

Fucking idiot and your holy grail WAB "suggestion" video. By saying "no real world like in FC3" while saying MGS V was repetitive (just like FC3 was, LOL) you disqualified yourself anyway, learn to deal with others thinking different and bring in better arguments (like we did a few pages ago (myself included)) or - to speak out loud for everyone else - take your account and GTFO.

edit: Don't bother answering, you're ignored.


LOL, ignored already by someone who has Big Boss as an avatar. Obviously touched a soft spot. But keep on fighting, brother.

Anyone remember Dragon Age 3? The hype and praise it got after the release. Wow, such amazing graphics and "open world" with lots of (pointless) stuff to do. A year later and it's considered just as bad as DA2, maybe even worse. But this will never happen to MGS5, because it's just as perfect as DA3 was, right?

I don't give a fuck what kind of milk you drink or how you decide to waste your life away, but if you're blinded by whatever you have developed in your mind, almost in denial and unable to see through your rose-tinted glasses when something's a bit off, then it gets kind of sad.


You compare DA3 to MGSV? Seriously now? Do you think ETS2 is better than MGSV?


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xyzg




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:00    Post subject:
Why don't people just play the game themselves first and formulate their own opinion?. As a general rule I go with the general consensus of what games are like from the members of this forum over any youtube review sites. On a whole folks are generally more clued up on here then pewpewshit and the dozens of other derp kiddies sprouting reviews over the tube. But that#s just me tho. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:07    Post subject:
@Meseder

Just stop your trolling kid, you're annoying as fuck. Here's my response since someone obviously had to quote your bullshit.

- You have no Avatar, you have thus no opinion that is valid (see? It's easy generalizing someone else)
- Dragon Age 3, which is completely different and has no comparisional value whatsoever.
- Of course you give a fuck, you get hurt quickly over people telling you to drop your "act", you're wasting your time telling people what they should do or not, you're the sad creature here. "Denial" that's all you did, if you bothered using your eyes you'd quickly realize what each one here thought of the game, stating a valid opinion, but you're nothing than a sorry excuse for a "critic".

One thing to state the obvious flaws, another to be a total idiot and prick about anything about a game, go and make your ways cunt. Your kind doesn't belong here, go to NeoFAG and all the other shitty places to invade with your passive aggression.

edit:

You HATE EVERY GAME you played, putting scores over gameplay and you only played those "shitty games" you claimed them to be, sometimes even enjoying the "repetitive and boring open world games" like FC3 was. How about you stop playing them then, I think you're more into the mobile-casual sector, SJW style Laughing Laughing


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grechzoo




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:09    Post subject:
Meseder hasn't even played MGSV!

He is bad mouthing a game blindly, then criticizing the positive opinion coming from people who have actually PLAYED THE DAMN THING.

Mesender is the definition of a troll.
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farne




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:11    Post subject:
Wow, this thread is no more toxic than the Star Citizen forums. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:12    Post subject:
@farne Star Citizen is obviously the perfect example for something that's totally not the point here Embarassed

People like Meseder whatevers are the toxic kind of trolls. The only posts he makes is telling others how shit game xy is:

- Mass Effect 3 is shit
- Skyrim is shit
- Max Payne 3 is shit
- MGS V is shit
- ...

Laughing
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Sohei




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:22    Post subject:
I would love to have more shit games like this one... Rolling Eyes
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Kaltern




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:32    Post subject:
Yeah, bring on the shite!


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:34    Post subject:
Meseder wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuA9YRbq8f0

According to this, the game is a total joke. 10/10 perfect scores everywhere, but here we have someone who speaks his honest mind and takes a huge dump on it. No sign of Kojima fanboy bullshit here either...

How can you even defend this shit after watching the video? I loved MGS1, but this looks like nothing but a huge waste of time.


Wow you're really using this guy as a reference point? He's a fucking horrible reviewer...
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:37    Post subject:
For those that have finished the game and know of its twists:

 Spoiler:
 


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"a phenomenon."
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Meseder




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:42    Post subject:
fearwhatnow wrote:
Meseder wrote:
harry_theone wrote:
I remember 3DM doing this before and then someone else cracked it, fuck them if that's the way they wanna do this.



I ONLY SEE YOU SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE Who here hailed Kojima in any way? Go troll in the Steam forums you nut.

Fucking idiot and your holy grail WAB "suggestion" video. By saying "no real world like in FC3" while saying MGS V was repetitive (just like FC3 was, LOL) you disqualified yourself anyway, learn to deal with others thinking different and bring in better arguments (like we did a few pages ago (myself included)) or - to speak out loud for everyone else - take your account and GTFO.

edit: Don't bother answering, you're ignored.


LOL, ignored already by someone who has Big Boss as an avatar. Obviously touched a soft spot. But keep on fighting, brother.

Anyone remember Dragon Age 3? The hype and praise it got after the release. Wow, such amazing graphics and "open world" with lots of (pointless) stuff to do. A year later and it's considered just as bad as DA2, maybe even worse. But this will never happen to MGS5, because it's just as perfect as DA3 was, right?

I don't give a fuck what kind of milk you drink or how you decide to waste your life away, but if you're blinded by whatever you have developed in your mind, almost in denial and unable to see through your rose-tinted glasses when something's a bit off, then it gets kind of sad.


You compare DA3 to MGSV? Seriously now? Do you think ETS2 is better than MGSV?


It doesn't even fucking matter what game it is. I was comparing the excitement level, hype and blind praise both AAA games received right after release. A lot was promised, but still a lot of disappointment followed.

I consider MGS1 as close to a perfect game as possible. It had locations connected to each other with a linear stroyline, awesome setting, memorable characters and boss fights, perfect length - it had certain mystery to it all. That's why the return to Shadow Moses in MGS4 felt like such an important moment to revisit not only for Kojima but for a lot of gamers too, me included. That should've been a proper good-bye. MGSV seems to have none of that. It feels like a forced mess, trying to be somehow relevant in this open-world mania we live today.

Hayter, the one and only Snake, was replaced by clueless Sutherland who barely speaks along with Quiet, we have another classic character ruined by none other than Troy Baker, a very basic mission based gameplay mixed with story... I just can't see the magic or "fantastic" in this game, at all.

I understand that Kojima had to be exhausted creating the same game over and again, so something had to change. The change finally happened and him and Konami are no more. Maybe it's even better, so he can finally do what he really wants...

I knew I will get hate and useless ad hominems because of that video, but it means nothing. What's important is to show the other side of the coin and that there are people out there who don't follow the immense hype everytime a big AAA game is released. Nothing personal, just plain and honest criticism. Stay in your dream world with 10/10 reviews if you like - for me it's just not believable or real.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:44    Post subject:
Honestly, I'm not liking it very much either, but it's better than most crap these days.
IMO the whole open world concept doesn't fit MGS, though that could be due to me only having actively played MGS1 and 2, which where both closed area/corridor games. That's where in my mind MGS lies and not with the open world.
I'm still playing it (for over 60 hours already atm) and still enjoying, but it just doesn't feel like a proper MGS game to me, but enjoyable nonetheless Wink


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 19:54    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
Yes there is, but we chose to ignore it, so we can be grumpy about it!

Just kidding, no there isn't. You can deactivate reflex mode and thats it. Later on there will harder versions of previous missions, which may provide a challenge. Only took a quick peek at one boss, that killed me extremely fast multiple times, where as the normal version was super easy.


What I did instead was: turn off the markers, and leave the reflex mode. Its extremely more fun and immersive this way! I watch out at every corner, have to remember enemies positions, I actually give them nicknames to remember, its a lot more personal. And if someone uncovers you, you still have a chance with reflex mode. Reflex mode is great IMO Because youre big boss, youre expected to shoot fast. Playing the mission without markers doesnt give you a bonus though Sad fun is the bonus.

Having wallhack on EVERY enemy in the game is game breaking . Just turn it off
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 20:19    Post subject:
Scratch Head


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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 20:20    Post subject:
Dat cracker chick though
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randir14




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 20:21    Post subject:
Side ops are starting to get repetitive, traveling to the same places over and over just to do one thing. I wish there were less but that each one had more objectives and variables.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 20:23    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Dat cracker chick though


exactly my thoughts Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 20:24    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Dat cracker chick though


She can show me her buttcrack any time Cute Pom Pom's


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 20:26    Post subject:
Kaltern wrote:
Scratch Head


3DM has some impressive crackers. I'm assuming they're showing proof that they're getting the crack working for Phantom Pain


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 20:27    Post subject:
@7thunders Now watch our "Crack Livestream" and we have set our "release date" for the crack to be soon in September! Laughing

PRE HURR DURR NAO!
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 20:30    Post subject:
Aww Yeah


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 20:32    Post subject:
that was phoenix' stream yesterday to proof its working, she is running 3dm since ever
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7thunders




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Sep 2015 20:37    Post subject:
harry_theone wrote:
@7thunders Now watch our "Crack Livestream" and we have set our "release date" for the crack to be soon in September! Laughing

PRE HURR DURR NAO!


Aww Yeah
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