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| Morphineus wrote: | It looks retarded to do a staggered release like this. An anime, a movie, 2 Demo's, A minigame and then refuse to capitalize on that hype to sell even more.
I just can't imagine Sony or MS giving them that much cash that would outweigh that kind of hype. |
This is Square Enix we are talking about is there even one of their recent business practices which wasn't totally anti consumer and retarded?
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 15:54 Post subject: |
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| tet666 wrote: | | Morphineus wrote: | It looks retarded to do a staggered release like this. An anime, a movie, 2 Demo's, A minigame and then refuse to capitalize on that hype to sell even more.
I just can't imagine Sony or MS giving them that much cash that would outweigh that kind of hype. |
This is Square Enix we are talking about is there even one of their recent business practices which wasn't totally anti consumer and retarded? |
When did Japanese companies ever make any sense?
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 16:00 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | tet666 wrote: | | Morphineus wrote: | It looks retarded to do a staggered release like this. An anime, a movie, 2 Demo's, A minigame and then refuse to capitalize on that hype to sell even more.
I just can't imagine Sony or MS giving them that much cash that would outweigh that kind of hype. |
This is Square Enix we are talking about is there even one of their recent business practices which wasn't totally anti consumer and retarded? |
When did Japanese companies ever make any sense? |
It wasn't that bad in the 90s and early 2000 even Square was a pretty nice company before the merger with Enix, but now they are in bat shit insane territory.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 16:16 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 16:19 Post subject: |
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 19:29 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 20:08 Post subject: |
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then release it on pc for more sales maybe... just maybe
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 20:11 Post subject: |
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It's over, these guys haven't learned a damned thing 
10 million copies is simply not going to happen, utterly insane.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 20:25 Post subject: |
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Hearing that, makes even less sense. Jap gonna Jap I guess. 
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 21:26 Post subject: |
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I'll repost my comment here 'cause relevant:
Guys, we gotta sell 10 million copies!"
"Let's spend hundreds of millions more in making some crappy CGI movie no one will care about, like the others!"
"Great idea! Anyone else?"
"Let's exclude one of the largest gaming platforms on the planet right now!!"
"BRILLIANT!"
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 21:59 Post subject: |
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| Przepraszam wrote: | https://mobile.twitter.com/FFXVEN/status/715587589970010112
Not even try it to hide it. |
Why would they? Square's main source of income always were consoles, PC is a supplementary aka secondary platform. The only reason they release their ancient FFs on PC now is because nobody cares about them on consoles anymore.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 22:20 Post subject: |
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| Nui wrote: | | They are missing out on a market. That is a 100% obvious. |
Completely agreed. Take the current Steam sales figures as an example;
Final Fantasy III ~ 124,826 - 143,032
Final Fantasy IV ~ 124,826 - 143,032 + 56,672 - 69,150 for TAY
Final Fantasy V ~ 38,268 - 48,640
Final Fantasy VI ~ 47,139 - 58,577
Final Fantasy VII ~ 974,289 - 1,023,943
Final Fantasy VIII ~ 522,941 - 559,515
Final Fantasy XIII ~ 544,146 - 581,440
Final Fantasy XIII-2 ~ 308,696 - 336,952
Final Fantasy: LR ~ 142,859 - 162,291
Final Fantasy XIV ~ 393,499 - 425,315
Final Fantasy Type 0 ~ 117,782 - 135,484
I didn't include XI as it has gone through numerous versions/collections and substantially more copies sold via retail/Squeenix Store. Still, it looks like they could easily expect several hundred thousand copies to be sold on PC - even the mediocre XIII series sold stunningly well it seems, though LR sales drop off to laughable levels most likely largely due to the terrible ports finally making people think "you fooled me twice, you ain't fooling me a third time!"  I am actually really surprised by the low sales on FFV and VI, though I guess that's due to the terrible spriting and the fact that they're poor Android-wrapped versions.
With FFIX coming "Soon©" and Final Fantasy X/X-2 already in SteamDB and almost certainly coming this year, the only titles missing are I+II and XII. There's no earthly reason to not release XV on PC and if they need to sell TEN MILLION copies in order to be "successful", I say they're going to need as many platforms as possible.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 22:32 Post subject: |
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All those sales and knowing how little effort they put into those they should be really grateful for that.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 22:32 Post subject: |
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It's obviously better to not make millions of dollars for relatively little work by being stubborn like Atlus.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 22:33 Post subject: |
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Japanese developers are gonna Japanese, I guess.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 23:49 Post subject: |
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I think that they're worried that piracy on PC would actually reduce total sales, since some people who would otherwise buy it on xbox/ps could pirate it on pc instead.
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| tet666 wrote: | | Prandur wrote: | | I think that they're worried that piracy on PC would actually reduce total sales, since some people who would otherwise buy it on xbox/ps could pirate it on pc instead. |
Dude Square Enix -> Denuvo |
so far only Ex-Edios aka Squeenix EU had denuvo .... all from Squeenix JAP was steamworks only so far
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£75 each for Final Fantasy II and III (4/6) SNES imports back when they came out 
Hence this isn't a valid argument.
