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Reg67




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 15:53    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Y'all don't play nice Imma take my pants off and going to post very incorporate pictures.


Do you mean pants or trousers Mr Spike? I can cope with trousers but not pants (European pants as in underwear, not American pants as in trousers).
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 15:55    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Y'all don't play nice Imma take my pants off and going to post very incorporate pictures.




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and yes, mine is only average
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Reg67




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 16:04    Post subject:
I think the bear speaks for us all, some like the game, some don't. Personally I don't give a shit. I bought it today for my spoilt son and will get the gist of it off him.

On a side line, I hope Cdkeys are a genuine outfit (UK) as I spent a few quid on this crap.

On another sideline, where the chuff is Shadwen?
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 16:08    Post subject:
Reg67 wrote:
On another sideline, where the chuff is Shadwen?


http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2903920#2903920

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Reg67




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 16:12    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Reg67 wrote:
On another sideline, where the chuff is Shadwen?


http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2903920#2903920



Nice, thanks, how serendipitous... However, I think I will wait for the Codex 'proper'

Also, why is my post so funny? It was a simple question, OK, I did not see that Reloaded had released the game, but I don't understand the ROTFL.


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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 16:13    Post subject:
clarification:

I'm waiting for the inappropriate photos Me Gusta


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 16:25    Post subject:
Reg67 wrote:
Also, why so funny? Sad


The wonderful timing! You ask where the game is, then it appears, it tickled me to no end Smile
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Reg67




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 16:27    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Reg67 wrote:
Also, why so funny? Sad


The wonderful timing! You ask where the game is, then it appears, it tickled me to no end Smile


Ah, now I see. Thank you.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 16:54    Post subject:
djees all these people bloating about playing this turd in ultra high settings, its a freaking doom3 engine ... almost ten years old and works on xbox . makes me sick to my stomach that people are happy with 60 fps for such mediocre gfx and low textures .... zero efforts , bland blurry and repetitive recycled garbage
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 16:58    Post subject:
Laughing


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Nui
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 16:59    Post subject:
Are the graphics mediocre? The lighting and reflections seem nice.

I just don't understand why noone seems to complain that metal doesn't quite look like metal, but rather soft. But maybe a non plastic look would be strange from id. Just like I know people who prefer slightly stale McDonalds burgers, because a fresh hot one is just not what they expect Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 17:06    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Laughing


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 17:07    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
Are the graphics mediocre? The lighting and reflections seem nice.


I was actually quite impressed with how everything looked.. when it worked right. Sadly Tech5/6 shitty texture streaming made everything look terrible.

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I just don't understand why noone seems to complain that metal doesn't quite look like metal, but rather soft. But maybe a non plastic look would be strange from id.


That's because, as you say, it's an id thing. Right from Tech4 onwards, plastic'y, wet, soft looking environments and models.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 17:11    Post subject:
Rage wrote:
Simple, this is the humps. Aka, the birthplace of the grumpy cat. New game is announced? FUCK YOOOUU DEEEVSSS THIS LOOKS LIKE SHIT. 40 pages of nerdrage later, game gets released.

Oh. This game is actually pretty good.

*Furious patting on the back commencing among forumites*

SP always looked fine, MP always looked fine, they didnt reinvent the wheel here, but don't see why you would expect something different. Its Doom.


quite typical, whining for x pages, release comes, few pages of prerelease hype, everyone is playing same stuff they were whining about, maybe even bought it or prehurdurred while being in hypetrain. few days/weeks later everyone forget about it and next upcoming AAA title (and those games usually get more whining) repeats the same story.


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DCB




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 17:18    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Right from Tech4 onwards, plastic'y, wet, soft looking environments and models.

I take it they haven't switched to PBR yet?
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 17:19    Post subject:
The raging in this case was, because id/Bethesda did a shit job at promoting the SP game.
First they told nothing at all, just talked about the MP part.

Then several weeks ago we saw some gameplay. But it was gameplay with a fucking derppad and by people who can't play a FPS. The gameplay also looked bland and slow because of that.

Only ~2 weeks before release we finally saw some good and fast gameplay from the PC with mouse/keyboard and by someone who is not a derp.

And then some days ago at release, the SP game turned out to be pretty awesome for what it is.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 17:22    Post subject:
DCB wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Right from Tech4 onwards, plastic'y, wet, soft looking environments and models.

I take it they haven't switched to PBR yet?


Nope, sadly, and I honestly don't think Tech5/6 could support it. I don't think PBR is compatible with MegaTexture, though you'd need someone far smarter than I - like JB or Vurt - to explain the intricacies of the engine Smile

Bob Barnsen wrote:
The raging in this case was, because id/Bethesda did a shit job at promoting the SP game.
First they told nothing at all, just talked about the MP part.

Then several weeks ago we saw some gameplay. But it was gameplay with a fucking derppad and by people who can't play a FPS. The gameplay also looked bland and slow because of that.

Only ~2 weeks before release we finally saw some good and fast gameplay from the PC with mouse/keyboard and by someone who is not a derp.

And then some days ago at release, the SP game turned out to be pretty awesome for what it is.


Me Gusta

thank you for your comments. 100% agree
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chiroq




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 17:30    Post subject:
Console are large part of the market and shitton of copies will sell on both xbox and ps4. didnt you see that videos from console/gamepad gameplay?

@sabin youre getting pretty ridicilous with repeating the same shit because someone agreed with post that you obviously didnt like


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 17:51    Post subject:
The opinions of an ignored, previously banned, member means less than zero to me \o/
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 18:02    Post subject:
DCB wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Right from Tech4 onwards, plastic'y, wet, soft looking environments and models.

I take it they haven't switched to PBR yet?


They have.

Bethesda made the SP look like it played like Doom 3. Which is something I am fine with so I was on board with the game from early on. Then the nvidia video and the twitch playthrough showed it actually plays close to Doom 1 & 2. So yeah, Bethesda went out of their way to make it look like it plays like something that it isn't. Why? Hell if I know.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 18:27    Post subject:
 Spoiler:
 


Laughing
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 18:32    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
DCB wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Right from Tech4 onwards, plastic'y, wet, soft looking environments and models.

I take it they haven't switched to PBR yet?


They have.

Bethesda made the SP look like it played like Doom 3. Which is something I am fine with so I was on board with the game from early on. Then the nvidia video and the twitch playthrough showed it actually plays close to Doom 1 & 2. So yeah, Bethesda went out of their way to make it look like it plays like something that it isn't. Why? Hell if I know.


It's strange because, indeed while Beth "claim" it has PBR, you only have to play the game to plainly see that either it doesn't... or it's simply not active. Metal doesn't look like metal, wood doesn't look like wood, rock doesn't look like rock. With MegaTexture still running (and ruining) texturing detail, how could they possibly have physically based rendering on something that doesn't actually have a static texture mesh?
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 18:40    Post subject:
madness wrote:
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Laughing

Well you cannot into Doom with gamepad as Polygon showed. 1/10 worst game ever.


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 18:55    Post subject:
I don't have the game but I could tell in an instant there's PBR from the moment I saw the trailer (to this day that I see footage from the final game on youtube) because of how the materials shine.

As for how it can be made I'm not sure you have to store that info on the textures in the first place instead of on the models ("this model is a piece of wood", "this model is marble") so I don't see megatextures as prohibiting the use of PBR.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 18:58    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
I don't have the game but I could tell in an instant there's PBR from the moment I saw the trailer (to this day that I see footage from the final game on youtube) because of how the materials shine.


id tech materials have "shined" since Doom 3. It's not a PBR effect, it's a "wet plastic texture" effect grinhurt

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As for how it can be made I'm not sure you have to store that info on the textures in the first place instead of on the models ("this model is a piece of wood", "this model is marble") so I don't see megatextures as prohibiting the use of PBR.


Maybe, like I said; I defer to people that know more about the engine than I do, but after playing it.. I didn't see anything that resembled PBR as it has in other titles.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 19:02    Post subject:
I should had written "different type of shine" Smile


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 19:32    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Maybe, like I said; I defer to people that know more about the engine than I do, but after playing it.. I didn't see anything that resembled PBR as it has in other titles.

maybe they just use PBR to present to us the most realistic rendition of id-plastic. By now I assume they manufacture that plastic on the side, hoping they can renovate their whole studio with that stuff. That must their dream.
sing it: ♩ A gritty barbie wooorld, made of plastic, id's fantastic ♩ Laughing

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 19:38    Post subject:
I lost it at "id's fantastic"
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 22:01    Post subject:
This game. Me Gusta

I don't even mind the glory kills.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 22:06    Post subject:
Why would you? They are glorious most of the time. Very Happy


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