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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 16:18    Post subject:
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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 16:42    Post subject:
Yay, found 1070 FE at my favorite store (the one with 30 days return thingy). I'm picking it up tomorrow

So Much Win

Can sell that 970 too now


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 18:10    Post subject:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/06/13/geforce_gtx_1070_founders_edition_overclocking_review/1#.V2Ar32OW0dU

The drops are not as bad as I thought they would be, although they mention that it's not hindered by actual temperature so don't expect more stable OC's (less fluctuations) even with superultramegaduper coolers.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 18:19    Post subject:
Oh and speaking of temperature and throttling;



It turns out there's little to no difference whatsoever in a closed case versus an open one (given adequate airflow inside the case, of course) and that OCing potential remains pretty much the same.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 21:54    Post subject: ...
To buy Founders Edition card you have to be mentally challenged and should be banned from reproduction.


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tonizito
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 21:56    Post subject: Re: ...
ragnarus wrote:
To buy Founders Edition card you have to be mentally challenged and should be banned from reproduction.
Pretty much yeah, might as well ask your moron certificate while you're waiting at the counter Laughing


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tolanri




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 22:45    Post subject: Re: ...
ragnarus wrote:
To buy Founders Edition card you have to be mentally challenged and should be banned from reproduction.


They are not that bad, but sure for the money there are better options. If I were to buy at full price I'd get MSI GAMING or Gainward Phoenix.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 22:47    Post subject:
Where the hell are Zotac AMP! reviews..


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 22:50    Post subject: Re: ...
tolanri wrote:
ragnarus wrote:
To buy Founders Edition card you have to be mentally challenged and should be banned from reproduction.


They are not that bad, but sure for the money there are better options. If I were to buy at full price I'd get MSI GAMING or Gainward Phoenix.
Well you got yours for ~400€, your opinion doesn't count

*shakes fist* Sad


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Airwolf




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 23:28    Post subject:
I'm waiting for 1070 from Zotac, EVGA, Galax and MSI, non FE. Most probably i'll go for MSI 1070 once it comes out, since it will be available in stores.

Palit has an interesting 1070 tho, GameRock Premium Edition. I've never owned a Palit card, so i don't know anything about them.

I really wanted a 1080 but unfortunately, it is too expensive.


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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 23:31    Post subject:
Palit is Gainward, or lets say -> Gainward is Palit, cause they bought them ages ago (thats why they use same or similar cooling solutions for both branded cards). Had a GTX 260 from Palit when they came out, was a nice and quiet card
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Airwolf




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jun 2016 23:44    Post subject:
Thanks. I've started comparing specs and will go for the highest out of the box oc. Most probably, Zotac AMP! Extreme will be the one, but also the most expensive.
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Kanint




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 05:17    Post subject:
Another 480 benchmark, confirming what we know about its performance (higher than 980 and tiny bit higher than Nano): http://s32.postimg.org/ylb7myij9/AMD_RX_480_Benchmark_GTX_Titan_X_R9_Fury_X_R9_Na.jpg

What's surprising is that a website tested it in SteamVR and it had a very sucky score. You can also see the 470 and 480M: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/112519/amd-geeft-benchmarks-vrij-van-rx-480-en-rx-470-en-onthult-rx-480m.html
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 06:10    Post subject:
Airwolf wrote:
Thanks. I've started comparing specs and will go for the highest out of the box oc. Most probably, Zotac AMP! Extreme will be the one, but also the most expensive.


There are benches showing founders edition cards outperforming custom cards with all their extra VRMs and power. I would just buy the cheapest possible card personally.
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proekaan
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 06:28    Post subject:
Kanint wrote:
Another 480 benchmark, confirming what we know about its performance (higher than 980 and tiny bit higher than Nano): http://s32.postimg.org/ylb7myij9/AMD_RX_480_Benchmark_GTX_Titan_X_R9_Fury_X_R9_Na.jpg

What's surprising is that a website tested it in SteamVR and it had a very sucky score. You can also see the 470 and 480M: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/112519/amd-geeft-benchmarks-vrij-van-rx-480-en-rx-470-en-onthult-rx-480m.html


Read about that on Anandtech and ya it's weird. The SteamVR was tested with an old Catalyst driver(16.1.1), so the debate began about AMD wanting to downplay their card before launch...

But we shall see in a few weeks what the truth is. Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 07:07    Post subject:
Just bought the Evga SC 1080 because I couldn't wait and they received stock at my local pc store..Couldn't resist..Could of bought the G1 also but decided for the Evga one.

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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 09:11    Post subject:
things are starting to look grim here in croatia. founder edition 1070's are now popping up everywhere, but the cheapest one is 626 bucks up to 700 bucks. no custom ones in sight, but I fully expect the corrupt shithole of a country will mean they will be even more expensive.

basically, selling a 970 in the best case scenario would cover for just half of a 1070 so the chances of a GPU upgrade for me are growing exceedingly slim.

I hate this shithole so much, should have never returned from the states. Poker Face


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riptide77




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 09:28    Post subject:
If you're gaming at 1080p a 970 or 290/390/x is all you need. I think my 290 will run games well at that resolution for at least a year or two.


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russ80




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 09:43    Post subject:
No it's not if you want to play games maxed out @ 60 fps. Not even counting downsampling.


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 09:48    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
things are starting to look grim here in croatia. founder edition 1070's are now popping up everywhere, but the cheapest one is 626 bucks up to 700 bucks. no custom ones in sight, but I fully expect the corrupt shithole of a country will mean they will be even more expensive.

basically, selling a 970 in the best case scenario would cover for just half of a 1070 so the chances of a GPU upgrade for me are growing exceedingly slim.

I hate this shithole so much, should have never returned from the states. Poker Face


I'm selling my r9 390 and gonna get shit for it. If i put a fair price on it, then people would be like wtf is wrong with you, it's too expensive and if i try to sell it for cheap, then it would be...hmm, it's too cheap, something is wrong with it and the guy aint tellin.

Prices are through the roof, as usual.


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xxax
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 09:56    Post subject:
Wow MSI 1070 651 Euros.... Are you fucking kidding me?
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 09:57    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
No it's not if you want to play games maxed out @ 60 fps. Not even counting downsampling.


+1

and 2 more weeks for any real 480 benchmarks Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 10:03    Post subject:
xxax wrote:
Wow MSI 1070 651 Euros.... Are you fucking kidding me?
Dafuq? How much is fool's edition there then? Mind Is Full Of Fuck


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 10:50    Post subject:
riptide77 wrote:
If you're gaming at 1080p a 970 or 290/390/x is all you need. I think my 290 will run games well at that resolution for at least a year or two.


well, it's sufficient for most titles yeah, and I don't expect it to just become crap over night. but I like to play with downsampling and I like constant 60 fps+ 8gb vram is a big plus.

But it doesn't seems like it's gonna be happening for me as the prices are robbery. I'm actually considering asking someone in the states/canada to mail me the gpu at cheapest shipping, which is around 40 bucks. it would take a month to arrive+ warranty would pretty much be useless on it.

it's just frustrating that in a time when you know what's happening in almost every inch of the planet, you can't bypass the bureaucratic shillery that takes an exorbitant amount of extra profit. paying the same money for a 1070, what a 1080 actually costs is a tough pill to swallow.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 10:55    Post subject:
Considering how well games run even at 1440p with my 390, I don't see how anyone would ever need anything better for 1080p in the nearby future atleast. Even 970 with the shitty VRAM and inferior performance should run at 1080p just fine.

Buying a 1070 or 1080 at 1080p is just a massive waste of money if you ask me. Friend upstairs has a Nano at 1080p and can max out pretty much everything with his 2500K and Nano.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 10:58    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
riptide77 wrote:
If you're gaming at 1080p a 970 or 290/390/x is all you need. I think my 290 will run games well at that resolution for at least a year or two.


well, it's sufficient for most titles yeah, and I don't expect it to just become crap over night. but I like to play with downsampling and I like constant 60 fps+ 8gb vram is a big plus.

But it doesn't seems like it's gonna be happening for me as the prices are robbery. I'm actually considering asking someone in the states/canada to mail me the gpu at cheapest shipping, which is around 40 bucks. it would take a month to arrive+ warranty would pretty much be useless on it.

it's just frustrating that in a time when you know what's happening in almost every inch of the planet, you can't bypass the bureaucratic shillery that takes an exorbitant amount of extra profit. paying the same money for a 1070, what a 1080 actually costs is a tough pill to swallow.


EVGA has global warranty regardless of where you buy it. Not sure how customs works in your country but in Poland if you can't prove that this is a gift (and it might be that there is also a value limit there) and it's not new they will slap you with additional charges that will make the card even more expensive than buying it directly in Poland Smile Would love to have Spykez or somebody to ship me the card but no idea how to pass around this nonsense
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riptide77




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 11:02    Post subject:
Yes, they may want VAT + customs processing fee from you. In Slovenia it's 22% of the value + 5€ for customs processing.


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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 11:07    Post subject:
When are the custom 1070 supposed to be deliverable?

Some shops wrote they will have them in stock here at the 16th. But now it's the 29th. Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 11:08    Post subject:
Ebuyer in the uk has the 30th for a hell of alot of the cards.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2016 11:09    Post subject:
@Bob Barnsen 21-06 in one of the online stores in PL for the MSI 1070 gaming x
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