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Areius




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Apr 2016 18:49    Post subject:
I read a bit about it and it puts drivers and services into hibernation, it's not a 'true' hibernation. I don't care if Linux can't read it anymore, but what about Windows? Let's say my Windows doesn't boot anymore, will I still be able to access my files if I plug it into another Windows? Will it be a 'correct' state? If any of this is 'no' then I'd rather way 20s longer Wink


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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Apr 2016 20:54    Post subject:
Mr.Tinkles wrote:
AFAIK fast boot only puts your computer into just that, hibernation and that's why it "boots" so quickly.
If you open up task manager you'll see that the uptime hasn't reset to 0 when doing a fast boot (unless you actually reboot) and just picks up where you left off last time.


nope, uefi fast boot has nothing to with the windows stuff with half hibernation / half shutdown (which isnt present in 8.1, only in 10 afaik)
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Apr 2016 21:37    Post subject:
I was talking about Windows Fast Start/Boot (which is available in 8.1 Smile).


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th May 2016 21:22    Post subject:
Got a new 850 SSD 500gb from Samsung. Now I am wondering if I should clone my 7 year old 64gb OS windows 7 onto it or install fresh. That one is on a ssd aswel and never had any problems. I was thinking to just install a fresh copy but don't know if it matters that much for ssd's.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th May 2016 21:24    Post subject:
You might as well roll over for Win 10 already. It's almost time


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 00:21    Post subject:
Was reading a bit briefly today and win 7 is better no? I edit professionally with Photoshop and Light room and can't have them not work.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 01:00    Post subject:
why should 7 be better? its not. and ofc every adobe stuff works flawless, even 10 years old versions of it
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 01:17    Post subject:
Even the illegal ones?
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 01:36    Post subject:
works as flawless as every other not legal activated os from ms in the past -> no problems at all. just install without entering a key (huehue cause you dont have one) and use the ms toolkit (head over to the mydigitallife forums for it) and use the one click ez-activator stuff in it (and exclude c:\windows\autokms from your av, atleast the windows defender will detect it. dunno about other stuff like kaspersky)
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 01:38    Post subject:
Sounds good, just got windows 10 Ill try in a bit.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 11:09    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
why should 7 be better? its not. and ofc every adobe stuff works flawless, even 10 years old versions of it


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 15:44    Post subject:
Pfff the disc is performing like half of what it should now in win 10. Trying hard to fix it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 15:51    Post subject:
well you obviously didn't do something right. SSD's are faster in win10 vs win7, especially in random read/writes.


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 16:06    Post subject:
On the 500 gb 850 I get about 380 write now. Tried updating the ahci drivers, not sure what else to do. It's in the 6gb port with a 6gb cable.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 16:11    Post subject:
just install the chipset drivers manually and you should be good to go
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 17:08    Post subject:
Didn't work. Tried to update the bios even. My windows 7 boot shows the disk doing 370 write and shit as well. Is this just a bad disk or am I missing something?

Fixed it. I put it in the marvell controller sata ports. Didn't know they can't go above 400.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2016 22:07    Post subject:
good ole marvell Laughing, there you go, I knew you did something wrong Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2016 21:07    Post subject:
Yea was getting annoyed Laughing Liking the ssd, was using a crucial one from 2009. Big difference in photoshop and lightroom.

Actually liking windows 10 too. Took all the fancy shit and it looks nice black without any crap.
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 03:33    Post subject:
I ain't trying to be a smart ass, but I was expecting more from these 950 Pro's in RAID 0...



Something aint right. The Seq was in the 3200 range after I installed Win10, before memory issues for a start?

4K is all that matters though, really.


*Edit*

Interesting.

I have the drives partitioned off. Half in half, and the rest for whatever.

Here is the rest..



This is what annoys me...



Chipset and RSTe drivers installed, but this thing is still 'standard'. I know it's got nothing to do with the 950 drives, as they are controlled by the RAID driver shown below, but I h8 'standard' Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 12:30    Post subject:
RAID0 is useless with ssds. you might loose all data for slightly better transferrates (which actually dont matter when using ssds and are not as high as you might expect them) AND on the downside you get way worse access times <-- which is the biggest value on using ssds, so u crush that. unless you need those higher transferrates for work its more than dumb to use raid0 on ssds
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jun 2016 12:35    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
I ain't trying to be a smart ass, but I was expecting more from these 950 Pro's in RAID 0...



something seems wrong. mail them over, I'll take a look Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2016 16:22    Post subject:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/seagate_announces_pcie_ssd_with_10gbs_and_shows_60tb_ssd.html

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Seagate annnounces the Nytro XP7200, a PCI-Express add-on card that has been fitted with four NVMe SSDs based on M2. The card will produce numbers above the 10.000 MB per second.

An PCIe-SSD series with a speed of 10GB/s was already mentioned in March by Seagate. The manufacturer now announced the actual product. The Nytro XP7200 is a PCIe plug-in card, which is equipped with four-m2 SSD's. To reach the speed of 10GB/s, four of the recently announced XM1440-m2-nvme modules are used with a capacity of 1920GB each. The total storage space is thus 7,7TB. There will also be a version with a capacity of 3,8TB, which uses four 960GB SSDs.

To reach the claimed speeds these nvme SSDs are setup in a RAID 0 set up using software. A rather old trick that does not always work out well.

According to Seagate has the Nytro XP7200 than a sequential read speed of 10GB/s and a sequential write speed of 3,6GB/s. Random read operations match 940,000 IOPS and 160,000 IOPS for writes. The first samples will be sent in September and the card should be on the market in the fourth quarter. Prices have not been announced.

Seagate also showed a SAS SSD in 3.5" format that holds a massive of 60TB. The SSD uses 3D TLC-NAND from Micron and a single controller. The sequential read and write speeds, according to the manufacturer 1500 and 1000 MB/s. Random read is 150,000 iOPS, according to Seagate. Information about random writes was not disclosed. Seagate has given this 60TB SSD no product name yet as at this moment it is just for demonstration purposes.



The 10 GB/s SSD (Read, write was around 4 GB/s) sounds interesting although it's accomplished via Raid-0 which I believe has a few drawbacks.

That other SAS 60 TB SSD would handily solve the lower storage capacity on SSD's although a product like that would probably cost a small fortune. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2016 16:53    Post subject:
Guys, i want to sell my 770 GTX and someone from the next town was offering me a Samsung 850 Evo 500 GB factory sealed. Should i take the deal ? Pricewise i wanted 125€ for my card including shipping and the Evo costs new 144€. Sounds like a good deal to me but i dont know, has the 850 evo not some sort of issues with old files or something along those lines ?


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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2016 17:21    Post subject:
Nope, that was the 840 EVO with the issues.
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2016 19:02    Post subject:
A quick question, what would you buy:

-a new Samung Evo 750 500 GB for 107 EUR

or

- a used Samsung Evo 850 500 GB for 114 EUR
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2016 19:19    Post subject:
EVO 850 should be bit faster. No problem is it used or not because it has warranty.


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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2016 20:32    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
I ain't trying to be a smart ass, but I was expecting more from these 950 Pro's in RAID 0...



Something aint right. The Seq was in the 3200 range after I installed Win10, before memory issues for a start?

4K is all that matters though, really.


*Edit*

Interesting.

I have the drives partitioned off. Half in half, and the rest for whatever.

Here is the rest..



This is what annoys me...



Chipset and RSTe drivers installed, but this thing is still 'standard'. I know it's got nothing to do with the 950 drives, as they are controlled by the RAID driver shown below, but I h8 'standard' Very Happy


A bit late but as an owner of a 950 Pro the very first thing i did after installing Windows was installing the Samsung NVMe driver, did you install that?

http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools.html


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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Aug 2016 22:06    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
A quick question, what would you buy:

-a new Samung Evo 750 500 GB for 107 EUR

or

- a used Samsung Evo 850 500 GB for 114 EUR


For what it's worth, I totally recommend them 850 Evos. Really good and fast SSDs for the price. And that VNand has gotten alot of praise. And you really get the speeds that are advertised contrary to many other SSD manufacturers and models.


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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Aug 2016 09:56    Post subject:
Ill wait for this beauty:

Intel SSD Pro 6000p 1TB, M.2 (SSDPEKKF010T7X1) 418,78 €


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Aug 2016 15:10    Post subject:
DaLexy wrote:
Ill wait for this beauty:

Intel SSD Pro 6000p 1TB, M.2 (SSDPEKKF010T7X1) 418,78 €


I'd rather go for Samsung SM961 1TB m.2 for around the same price. (3200MB/s / 1800MB/s , 4K: 450k/​400k)
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