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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Oct 2016 19:32    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
Shotguns are maybe "OP" when you play domination Smile


To prove a point to a buddy of mine, I played with M10 Hunter on multiple conquest maps and I absolutely destroyed. Several times I was out of ammo because I outlived so many of the enemies I faced. It felt like playing Battlefront in first person.
Close and personal is not even my play style, I prefer medium range engagements.
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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Oct 2016 20:01    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
OnBoard wrote:

Mean while I was killed by mortar in the same operations once. If you camp, mortar kills you, if you move mortar won't hurt you.


That's not true, there are plenty horrible choke points where being killed by mortar has nothing to do with camping. Just take a look at Suez.

Mr.Tinkles wrote:
Which weapons would you consider OP then?
Personally I'm annoyed by the gas granades and that they have 2 of them and they last so long.
The mortar is also annoying at times.
But I wouldn't call them OP rather than an annoyance.


The mortar and gas grenade sure are annoying, but as for OP weapons, just take a look at the M10 shotgun. You don't have to wait in buildings or camp around corners, you can easily run and gun with that weapon (so much tactics!) because the game is so fast paced that allows this kind of play style.
The starting weapon for assault is also extremely powerful if you know how to use it. It spits bullets like there is no tomorrow.

But so far, what bothers me the most is how noobs friendly this franchise has become. You are a bad player? NO WORRIES! We give you the strongest thing possible so you can even the score. I hate losing a match that we were clearly winning because the enemy team has an airship/train/dreadnought, that's just downright lame. Even the score system is designed in such a fashion so you can lose at close scores. One team must be completely clueless to get a difference higher than 200-250 points. It's a great idea to reward bad players, after all, they bring the sales up, right? Rolling Eyes



Well, the airship and train can easily be countered with either the AT rocket gun, landvehicles, airplanes and/or AA-guns. So if you have half a team that's not completely braindead you can take it down within 5-10 minutes. The problem lies with players and not the mechanics IMO, people who are too worried about their KD (or just dying) rather then switching class to help out the game.
For the shotgun, yeah...it's OP in close quarter combat but pretty useless in mid- to long-range combat where otehr classes fare better.
This is all of course in my opinion as to you these things are still going to be considered as overpowered. Surprised
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Oct 2016 20:12    Post subject:
On Suez for example, you barely have anything to counter the train with. Not to mention those static guns and AT rocket gun can easily be stopped by enemies running like headless chickens.
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Oct 2016 20:17    Post subject:
Well, the turrets on the train can be taken out with 2-4 hits from the AT rocket gun same as with the airship. Not only that you still have the heavy anti-tank nades, the light anti-tank nades (for every class) and mines. There are quite a bit of counters to it, as there are for basically anything, the problem is when the team doesn't do any of that or can't/won't co-ordinate well.

Edit:

Will you die trying to do this? Most likely but it will be "for the greater good". The people who are worrying about their KD might not help out much there though.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Oct 2016 20:36    Post subject:
Here is how to counter the armoured train:

Press "k" followed by

"ALL SPAWN ASSAULT AND LET'S RAPE THAT TRAIN!"

And believe it or not, it works Smile

The train is by far the easiest thing to destroy since it doesn't require any vehicles or stationaries to do so.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2016 08:40    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
OnBoard wrote:

Mean while I was killed by mortar in the same operations once. If you camp, mortar kills you, if you move mortar won't hurt you.


That's not true, there are plenty horrible choke points where being killed by mortar has nothing to do with camping. Just take a look at Suez.


Well that map is the new Metro, it's mostly horrible. If you try and advance (enemy has 2 flags), you get sniped. So you either fight it there close or mortar (to make some room to advance).

It even says on the battlefield.com map description
Quote:
Fight through shallow defenses, with field guns or mortars, through the outskirts of Kantara and into the deep desert beyond.


Anyways, I'll take a team full of shotgunners and mortarers over snipers any day every map Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2016 18:39    Post subject:
That feel when you crash from leading the scoreboard with 27-4 (not sniping, Amiens) Crying or Very sad Previous round was like 9-11, why not crash on me then.

BF1 sure is picky about CPU voltage, worked couple hours fine, upped cache voltage after last crash 0.05v, now another 0.05v, better not crash anymore.


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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2016 22:35    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2016 23:42    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
I haven't noticed hackers, but there are enough op weapons not to mention the return of the mortar.
Never before in a Battlefield game I've been running like a madman (CoD style) destroying people with shotgun.

#1: the people you've played against with it must be pretty shit or you had a medic healing you all the time.
#2: shotguns are nowhere near as powerful as they were in BF4, which in turn were much weaker than in BF3, and those were pea shooters compared to the shotsnipergunriflebuttsecks from BC2.

The A10 is good, but it's not as good as an MCS was in BF4. When you're right in someone's face, yes, it's a 1-hit kill. But even from 10 meters, that's not the case anymore. With an MCS in BF4 you could easily do it from 25 meters away, BF3 was a bit more and its MCS was a bit more powerful too. I won't even compare to BC2, where a shotgun with slugs effectively became a sniper rifle.

TTK in this game is quite a bit lower than it was in BF4. I can easily rack up some kills with a shotgun, but if I don't have a medic healing my ass I won't survive long since I can't heal myself anymore. The rifles are easy to wreck, but the SMGs are actually a bigger problem than shotguns. Their TTK from the hip is lower than the shotguns' ADS time is.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2016 23:46    Post subject:
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2016 23:47    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
The first thing I bought with my points was a shotgun. Such a disappointment Sad


Play a little to get used with it, you won't regret it.
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2016 23:59    Post subject:
Had this "classic" Battlefield moment happen to me today:
https://gfycat.com/AnnualDisgustingHairstreakbutterfly

Can't even hide up in the mountains from these murderous things...
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2016 00:11    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:
Had this "classic" Battlefield moment happen to me today:
https://gfycat.com/AnnualDisgustingHairstreakbutterfly

Can't even hide up in the mountains from these murderous things...


Killed by NoCheat-Skill.

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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2016 01:26    Post subject:
Aww Yeah Dem Trench Bikers be deadly!! Focused


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2016 05:06    Post subject:
Laughing

When something like this happens, you have no idea what to do... rage, laugh or just... sit... there.

Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2016 11:18    Post subject:
Tried it with jewish origin access and not going to buy it. It was fun to play but didn't pull me in. I played 10 hours in total and they should have made the trial free.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2016 11:25    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:
Had this "classic" Battlefield moment happen to me today:
https://gfycat.com/AnnualDisgustingHairstreakbutterfly

Can't even hide up in the mountains from these murderous things...

haha ,wtf Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2016 11:32    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:
Can't even hide up in the mountains from these murderous things...


Oh I did not know you get a kill, even if you aren't driving it anymore. Was it always like this or new to BF1.

Mostly I've teamkilled like that, but surely it shouldn't teamkill then either, as it knows who was driving it.

edit: oh he even killed Fable just before, so 2 humpers in 3 seconds in different parts of map.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2016 14:02    Post subject:
OnBoard wrote:
That feel when you crash from leading the scoreboard with 27-4 (not sniping, Amiens) Crying or Very sad Previous round was like 9-11, why not crash on me then.

BF1 sure is picky about CPU voltage, worked couple hours fine, upped cache voltage after last crash 0.05v, now another 0.05v, better not crash anymore.


Means only one thing, game uses CPU properly and your overclock hasn´t been 100% stable, but it has been stable in some modern crap ports which doesnt stress out system properly.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2016 16:02    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
OnBoard wrote:
BF1 sure is picky about CPU voltage, worked couple hours fine, upped cache voltage after last crash 0.05v, now another 0.05v, better not crash anymore.


Means only one thing, game uses CPU properly and your overclock hasn´t been 100% stable, but it has been stable in some modern crap ports which doesnt stress out system properly.


Yep. Was solid last night, hoping it's now for ever too. I even used BF4 for stability tessting earlier. CPU was fine on stress test and every other game, but BF4 would crash once in a few days.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2016 19:17    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2016 20:05    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Nodrim wrote:
I haven't noticed hackers, but there are enough op weapons not to mention the return of the mortar.
Never before in a Battlefield game I've been running like a madman (CoD style) destroying people with shotgun.

#1: the people you've played against with it must be pretty shit or you had a medic healing you all the time.
#2: shotguns are nowhere near as powerful as they were in BF4, which in turn were much weaker than in BF3, and those were pea shooters compared to the shotsnipergunriflebuttsecks from BC2.

The A10 is good, but it's not as good as an MCS was in BF4. When you're right in someone's face, yes, it's a 1-hit kill. But even from 10 meters, that's not the case anymore. With an MCS in BF4 you could easily do it from 25 meters away, BF3 was a bit more and its MCS was a bit more powerful too. I won't even compare to BC2, where a shotgun with slugs effectively became a sniper rifle.

TTK in this game is quite a bit lower than it was in BF4. I can easily rack up some kills with a shotgun, but if I don't have a medic healing my ass I won't survive long since I can't heal myself anymore. The rifles are easy to wreck, but the SMGs are actually a bigger problem than shotguns. Their TTK from the hip is lower than the shotguns' ADS time is.


Can confirm.

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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2016 20:13    Post subject:
That starting weapon from assault is just insane.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2016 17:45    Post subject:
i'm selling battlefield 1 with dlc for 40 €
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2016 18:08    Post subject:
Matisto23 wrote:
i'm selling battlefield 1 with dlc for 40 €


https://www.gamedownloadkeys.co.uk/battlefield-1-pc-download £33.99


I can give you 30€ if you want.


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2016 19:14    Post subject:
38 € is 33.99 and with that the dlc is not included so 40 €
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2016 19:54    Post subject:
They are fixin Suez \o/


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