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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Feb 2017 14:32    Post subject:
Looks like that "high performance" comes from small 10k rpm fan, i bet they bundle ear protection with it.
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Lathieza




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Feb 2017 00:55    Post subject:
I'm getting a little bit hyped Smile

Really thinking about doing a full AMD upgrade this summer.


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Kanint




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Feb 2017 04:42    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Yeah saw the stock coolers for it yesterday.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=412665



This render was confirmed to have been made by a member of the community named in the picture, it wasn't made by AMD.

This picture offers an interesting comparison based on the information currently floating around (performance and price): https://i.imgur.com/ADskbDx.png
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Feb 2017 13:11    Post subject:
Some 1700X benchmarks (sounds that they are real), apparently intel CPU´s were overclocked in this test, and the 1700X was tested on some shit mobo along with 2400mhz ram sticks, so performance might be even better, but in a nutshell, we are looking at Haswell/Broadwell IPC performance, if this is true, it is going to be very good CPU.

https://videocardz.com/65825/first-amd-ryzen-7-1700x-benchmarks-are-here
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Janz




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Feb 2017 13:17    Post subject:
those benches dont say anything. ofc they are fast in most of them cause that thing has 16 cores

but look at the single core benchmark. 800mhz slower than the 7700k and loosing much. even loosing to a 6800k @ 3,4ghz too (if that ryzen sample was really clocked at 3,4ghz too, we dont know that) and is basicly on the same level in terms of single core performance with a 3,0ghz clocked intel cpu

tbh thats not impressive, they can barely catch up to a one year old cpu and are still not available. and yes its still the single core performance which is important, i said multiple times -> for homeusers 16 cores are useless atm (and will be in the next 2-3 years)
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Feb 2017 13:25    Post subject:
Intel CPU´s were overclocked in that comparison.

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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Feb 2017 17:34    Post subject:
Please don't link any supposed to be real benchmarks / infos from a website that replaces "s" with "z" to look cool.


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Feb 2017 17:38    Post subject:
At this point I think we can wait for benchmarks from several sources so that they verify each other. Then the name of a source no longer matters either. Razz


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Feb 2017 13:45    Post subject:
Sorry bob, more from the cool guys.




https://videocardz.com/65913/how-fast-is-ryzen
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Feb 2017 13:53    Post subject:
How do you end up with the same per core score with cpus of different clockspeeds?

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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Feb 2017 13:56    Post subject:
That is a good question.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Feb 2017 15:34    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Please don't link any supposed to be real benchmarks / infos from a website that replaces "s" with "z" to look cool.


I get your reasoning, but I don't think it's valid to disregard any information from website, just because they chose a bad name 9 years ago (domain was registered in 2008). Many things may have changed since then. Maybe they'll rebrand one day, but I don't think it's necessary just because silly "cool" s->z substitute.


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Feb 2017 15:46    Post subject:
By that logic, you shouldn't trust a thing on a site which has "hump" in the name Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Feb 2017 16:50    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
That is a good question.

Well these guys simply argue that the bench does not scale well enough and amd hit the ceiling there.
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3dmark-benchmarks-leaked-faster-core-intels-i7-6950x/

However, in that case, the non overclocked version at 3.2GHz shouldn't be so much worse. Also the 6 core i7 6800k @ 4.2 GHz should not be better in total but worse per core than the 4 core 7700k @ 4.2 GHz ... I think

Someone in the comments in the first article suspected that the 8 ryzen cores are clustered, and data communication from cores 1-4 to 5-8 are slower than in between these groups.

Oh god, I'm contributing to the half-knowledge speculation nonsense Laughing . I'm gonna stop here and wait for those in the know how and more benchmarks Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Feb 2017 18:48    Post subject:
@Videocardz, and also Wcctech leaks:

Sure, more leaked benchmarks are always welcome. But i don't really find them trustworthy at all, as i think in the past they sometimes released fake data, just to get clicks on their website.

And also personally i don't really care about scores from some benchmark tools.
Give me numbers from actual modern and in comparison to their Intel counterpart.


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Feb 2017 20:06    Post subject:
"half-knowledge speculation nonsense" also known as the JackQ special.

On topic, if the leaked prices are accurate, and you can get a Ryzen 7 1700+decent mobo for around $410, I'll go for it.

Even if it's 15-10% slower than an i7-6700K in game performance, it's still a good deal, IMO.

Hopefully AMD will deliver something competitive this time, on both the CPU and GPU markets.


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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Feb 2017 05:01    Post subject:
I just bought some AMD stock, i'm going all in Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Feb 2017 13:52    Post subject:
EyePatchLives wrote:
"half-knowledge speculation nonsense" also known as the JackQ special.

Gah that hurt Crying or Very sad Laughing
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Feb 2017 06:59    Post subject:
So, just a bit over a week now till Ryzen is officially out and to either get excited or disappointed.

Already put a 7700k with other necessary components on my wishlist, ready to order.
But i really hope AMD will offer a solid competition this time with their CPUs.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Feb 2017 12:09    Post subject:
It's gonna be good! pls

You are waiting with ordering for the Ryzen release right, to see some benchmarks first?


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Feb 2017 17:41    Post subject:
Lathieza wrote:
You are waiting with ordering for the Ryzen release right, to see some benchmarks first?

Yes! (time to upgrade my ancient 2500k grinhurt)

I would really like to give AMD another chance for their CPUs.
But somehow i fear we/i will get disappointed when real benchmarks for games will appear - in comparison to their Intel counterparts. Sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Feb 2017 20:26    Post subject:
Its really hard to speculate about it but my guts is telling me its gonna be really good. I'm checking all the leaks and articles since the moment i used all my upgrade money to buy AMD stocks. I'm even planning to buy 500 euro more before Ryzen release. Laughing

The hype is real.


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2017 06:16    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Please don't link any supposed to be real benchmarks / infos from a website that replaces "s" with "z" to look cool.

We are talking about "Ryzen" here ....
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2017 06:33    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Please don't link any supposed to be real benchmarks / infos from a website that replaces "s" with "z" to look cool.

We are talking about "Ryzen" here ....

I don't understand that m8.


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Lathieza




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2017 12:10    Post subject:
Another leak

https://videocardz.com/66182/amd-radeon-7-1700x-pictured-and-tested

Bob Barnsen wrote:
Please don't link any supposed to be real benchmarks / infos from a website that replaces "s" with "z" to look cool.


Sorry Bob Laughing

You did the same thing a couple of posts ago though Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2017 16:10    Post subject:
Looks like 1700X ryzen will be insane value for money, jesus christ dat performance for less than 400 dollars. This shit is going to shake intel pricing on the high end market for sure.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2017 16:47    Post subject:
If it ran that single threaded test at the rumored 3.8Ghz boost, it will not be any faster than intels lineup. But it will be the first really affordable real 8 core CPU.

But I doubt it will clock at anything near the OCing levels of the 7700Ks, so in up to 4 core scenarios 7700K will be a bit faster.

Hopefully the 1400X will be able to clock high enough to compete with the 7700Ks at 66% the price.





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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2017 17:54    Post subject:
sadly nobody cares about real 8 core cpus cause no fucking gaming/casual scenario would make use of it
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2017 17:57    Post subject:
Just like nobody cared about 4 cores a few years back.

But the people who wont care can still buy the cheaper 4 core CPUs.

In any case, if this review is right, prices will have go down at intel.

Everybody wins.


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Feb 2017 17:58    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
sadly nobody cares about real 8 core cpus

Bitch, I still care and pax does as well. Not everything has to be gaming related. Pax mentions encoding, I'll add science/simulation stuff to it. I could use it right now.
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