Dishonored: Death of the Outsider (DH2 expandalone)
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Tydirium




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Sep 2017 09:59    Post subject:
I really wish in this "expansion" they wont "punish" the player for taking the violent way again like they did in in DH1 and DH2 by getting the worse ending sequences.
The violent way is so much more fun to play in my opinion, even if I did only play it for "experimental" reasons and loaded the savegame with the the non-violent way later again.

If a game is a working stealth/shooter mix like the "Dishonored"-series players should be able to choose completely free how to play and not getting "forced" in the one or other direction. "Prey" did handle this matter better in my opinion and in a more subtle way.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Sep 2017 10:02    Post subject:
I get what you mean but IMO it was a bigger problem in D1.
The best part about D2 was that they gave you much more options for non lethal gameplay, that helped balancing it in the end.


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Sep 2017 10:17    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
I get what you mean but IMO it was a bigger problem in D1.
The best part about D2 was that they gave you much more options for non lethal gameplay, that helped balancing it in the end.


I agree and the Rune-crafting ability was almost overpowered regarding this aspect:
The two extremely powerful abilites to recover sleep darts and to choke enemies far quicker, multiplied by 4 with crafting made the non-lethal way indeed far easier than in D1.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Sep 2017 10:50    Post subject:
Yep, I was using those with emily near the end of the game and they were amazomg. Then agai, the point of these games for me always was to feel like a god with all the powers and abilities so it's all good


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Sep 2017 06:33    Post subject:
indeed, my favourite bit is feeling godlike, deciding who lives and who dies in a completely arbitrary fashion. I once found out a guard and a maid were in a relationship together, so i murdered her and knocked him out cold, and left them together in a bed Twisted Evil its just so much fun sneaking into a place and choosing if people live or die, rather than not having a choice because i went rambo.

dont get me wrong, i still go rambo, but thats only after ive sneaked into the place i wanted to go and sneakily snuffed out stragglers for giggles to make the upcoming fight super unfair


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Sep 2017 07:18    Post subject:
well definitely get it once denuvo is cracked on it, because i sure as fuck wont be paying bethesda pricing on a fucking dlc, no sir.


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Sep 2017 09:42    Post subject:
Taking someone else's face like a disguise seems like a cool power, but also quite OP. Just take a guard, go as far as you can and then grab another one. Rinse and repeat until the end?
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Sep 2017 09:55    Post subject:
madness wrote:
Taking someone else's face like a disguise seems like a cool power, but also quite OP. Just take a guard, go as far as you can and then grab another one. Rinse and repeat until the end?

I don't really remember how it was in DH1 anymore, but my DH2 playthrough even on the highest difficulty was rather easy. The only hard part often was, that i wanted to go stealth mode.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Sep 2017 09:01    Post subject:
So, when exactly does this unlock?
Also, post a mini review after, especially on how it runs (looking at you JBeckman...) pl0x


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Sep 2017 09:02    Post subject:
~7 hours.

Preload: 20 GB.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Sep 2017 17:13    Post subject:
Game unlocked. Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Sep 2017 21:26    Post subject:
Available: 15 September
This game will unlock in approximately 3 hours

Confused


yet mixed reviews already
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Sep 2017 21:49    Post subject:
Unlocked a few hours ago in several territories around Asia and Australia. Smile

Five missions in total this time it seems, people dislike the main character (She's colored.) and the writing. (It was written by a woman.) so yeah the early reviews don't seem to be too worthwhile going by what I've read so far, to say nothing of the discussion on the official forum going back and forth about said female writer and the colored protagonist.

For some people it's probably a legitimate concern, for others it's probably the usual trolling.

Divinity 2 is also seeing a number of reviews hitting negative just because they didn't manage to ship all localized versions on time but that's at least somewhat of a more legitimate complaint since they only announced said delay a few hours ago.


EDIT: And they started deleting and locking threads so now I can't link to those discussion topics.

Lots of Chinese topics though.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/614570/discussions/?fp=2

And it does seem the writing might not be quite on par with the original game in terms of actual quality too so that is some actually useful info on the game at least.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Sep 2017 21:53    Post subject:
Unlocked in AU/NZ/Asia. EU/NA is delayed. Smile

AU,NZ,AF,BD,BT,BN,KH,CN,HK,IN,ID,KR,LA,MO,MY,MV,MN,NP,PK,PH,SG,LK,TW,TH,VN,JP

Don't know what's the issue with the game. The user reviews seem to be filled with the Chinese language. Rough translation suggests performance/technical issues.

Edit: JB got it covered. Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Sep 2017 21:55    Post subject:
Looks like there's some additional complaints on the game not starting, much of these reviews appear to be Chinese though so I can't quite read them.

Could be anything from SSE 4.1 support for certain CPU models lacking or DX11.1 being required (Thus that platform update being mandatory for Windows 7 systems.) to actual bugs or other oversights with the game.
(Hopefully since they launched the game in Asia the game can handle non-English user names and such, that'd be a miss otherwise.)


EDIT: Some of the Chinese reviews apparently complain about the simplified Chinese localization the game uses rather than traditional?

Kinda hard to keep track of things now that moderators are banning people and deleting things. Very Happy
(Even for small complaints it seems.)
( https://steamcommunity.com/app/614570/discussions/0/2765630416808682688/#c2765630416808857766 )
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Sep 2017 22:26    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
or DX11.1 being required (Thus that platform update being mandatory for Windows 7 systems.)
Huh? Dafuq?
The original D2 had this requirement too, no? Confused


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Sep 2017 23:14    Post subject:
It probably did, the game engine seems to have some pretty neat functions (Multi-threaded rendering for example.) though some games vary between outright requiring DirectX 11.1 support or having it as a optional if supported. (Frostbite Engine has had it as a optional since a few years now I believe.)

For Windows 7 the platform update is a optional and not a critical so it has to be installed separately which is why some newer see complaints about crashing on start until said update has been installed, Windows 7 is still highly popular too so this is something the developers should try to keep in mind. Smile

For SSE 4.1 support I think that was a issue with Dishonored 2 but a patch then made it so the game worked on CPU's lacking this extension though the AMD CPU's that have this issue are starting to get kinda old so performance is likely a concern in addition to already underperforming compared to Intel's offerings although the newer models even things out a bit but not everyone can immediate just upgrade to a full new system of course.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Sep 2017 07:37    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
...(Hopefully since they launched the game in Asia the game can handle non-English user names and such, that'd be a miss otherwise.)...


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=249008098#post249008098
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Figured it out. You need to change your language for non-unicode programs (system locale) to English or it won't boot.




It does seem to run better though but the areas are also smaller from what I've read so far.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Sep 2017 07:55    Post subject:
Maybe a tad better than DH2, but still, those stutters are back. Even though FPS is high (75-95 most of the time), something still feels not completely smooth. It's the engine I guess.

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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Sep 2017 09:23    Post subject:
Yeah the engine only works at 60 FPS for some reason it seems, guessing a multiple at 120 FPS could work too if constant.

You can cap it from the in-game options at least but it's unfortunate it wasn't actually improved.


EDIT: Well it works at any framerate but 60 FPS is the only one where it's actually the most smooth with minimal stutter whereas anything else seems to be problematic.
(EDIT: Frame pacing inconsistencies.)
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Sep 2017 09:50    Post subject:
Gameinformer review

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/dishonored_death_of_the_outsider/b/playstation4/archive/2017/09/14/a-fine-finish.aspx

What's up with that article by the way? It was published yesterday, didn't the Bethesda embargo policy force the outlets to only play and review the game when it is already out for everyone? Unless they changed it?
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Sep 2017 10:09    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:

Out of all the characters in the Dishonored universe, they chose the most unmemorable and dull one to take on the outsider Laughing



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Sep 2017 10:19    Post subject:
im curious to how its gonna end, my bets are that daud and billie will die. actual killing the outsider seems like too much of a big deal to have him killed in some standalone dlc spinoff game, the trilogy should end with his death.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Sep 2017 10:47    Post subject:
Maybe somebody takes his place.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Sep 2017 11:19    Post subject:
not possible


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Sep 2017 18:08    Post subject:
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Dishonored: Death of the Outsider captures everything that’s great about Arkane’s assassination series, while also showing that it can still surprise. Smart tweaks improve the core gameplay and, if you’re worried about having fewer powers to play with, you can always go back through it with Corvo’s moveset when you’re done. As far as mission quality goes, it peaks in the middle - the fourth mission has us revisit a location from Dishonored 2, albeit slightly reworked, and the final mission feels much more linear than what’s come before. Still, it all leads to a satisfying conclusion that neatly ties up every plot strand that’s been hanging since that political assassination, whoever you decide is responsible.

9/10

https://www.pcgamesn.com/dishonored-death-of-the-outsider/dishonored-death-of-the-outsider-pc-review


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