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Shawn_Hunter




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 10:44    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
The game has "single player" contents, but it still need to be online all the time.. the game is basically half MMO, for a "crack" u will have to build server emulator, which is unlikly anytime soon if ever...

Understood. Thanks Jack!
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 17:40    Post subject:
Xenthalon wrote:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Oh and what retarded shit is that:
Quote:
There have been tons of reports of people getting banned for using the following software on PC:

Game Capture Mode in:
OBS
XSPLIT

Overlays in:
Fraps
Mumble
Discord

Hardware monitoring Software:
MSI Afterburner
EVGA Precision XOC

If these software's are running, you will get banned.

https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/46101

Edit: Or any other software that has code injection.

Edit 2:
According to the latest information from Bunjie, ALL BANS ARE PERMANENT. You cannot dispute your claim either according to the link below dated 10/23/2017.

https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/11929

https://www.reddit.com/r/destiny2/comments/78jo4y/psa_avoid_getting_instantly_banned/




lol

played until the first town with afterburner running yesterday, when I get home from work and am banned I'm gonna be pissed.

PC Support forums are getting flooded with ban reports, if Bungie doesn't unban people it's gonna get ugly:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Topics?pNumber=0&tg=Help%20PCSupport&tSort=3&tType=0&d=0&lang=en

Goddamnit Bungie, all these day 1 bans can't even be real, what hack developer would have his hack ready on launch, that's just not possible.

I had Afterburner running all the time too with several tries to inject it.
Just started the game again and i'm luckily not banned (yet). grinhurt

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Kanint wrote:
You can't monitor/record your FPS the way you would with Afterburner, but the game has its own FPS counter if you're curious.

Hm, i must be blind.
How can you enable the FPS counter?


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Xenthalon




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 18:39    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Just started the game again and i'm luckily not banned (yet). grinhurt

heh, me neither. currently blasting my way through the story, level 11
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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 19:08    Post subject:
https://twitter.com/ShockAndShaw/status/923033887269257216

Quote:
We do block programs from pushing their code into our game. Most overlays work like that. We don't ban for that tho. That's internet BS.


They are handling this the worst way possible, how weird.

and wtf...

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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 20:17    Post subject:
lmao they are going after the legit customers again?

Anti-piracy!
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 20:35    Post subject:
Buying a 2nd copy... holy shit Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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djvelho




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 20:37    Post subject:
i have no intrested of this game.

am i normal?

Very Happy Laughing
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 20:39    Post subject:
djvelho wrote:
i have no intrested of this game.

am i normal?

Very Happy Laughing
No, just sane Very Happy


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 21:22    Post subject:
djvelho wrote:
i have no intrested of this game.

am i normal?

Very Happy Laughing


Nope.


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Xenthalon




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 21:46    Post subject:
Game is fun men. At least on the first playthrough.

There seems to be a memory leak somewhere though, things get noticeably janky after 2-3 hours. Restarting makes it butter smooth again.
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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 21:54    Post subject:
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46426

Bungie Post about the Banstuff
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 22:11    Post subject:
I remember I couldn't even get Game capture in OBS working period, so I think the whole drama is way blown out of proportion.

That being said, why would anyone buy or play this "game" anyway...

Ok, I let myself out Smile
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2017 23:44    Post subject:
Killing Nazis never gets old, been missing it in recent years, and no, not gonna touch the new kawadoodie so Wolfenstein it is Very Happy

Edit: wrong thread
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Kanint




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 00:41    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Kanint wrote:
You can't monitor/record your FPS the way you would with Afterburner, but the game has its own FPS counter if you're curious.

Hm, i must be blind.
How can you enable the FPS counter?

Open Settings -> Gameplay
The last entry in Gameplay, right above the category of Text Chat, has the option FPS Display. You'll get a small green counter on the upper right of your screen.
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Kaltern




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 03:11    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Can't measure my FPS (no MSI Afterburner support Rolling Eyes), but wit 150% scaling it feels rather steady for me.



Played this yesterday for a few hours. Sadly i don't really feel the game.
Mostly the multiplayer aspect i'm missing. You only see people in that town (where you can't even fucking communicate globally), or at public events.
But outside of those you are just running around solo.

Also loading times seem rather long for me, even when installed on a SSD.


// On the other hand combat feels rather good. Even though melee seems OP when you can one shit most grunts with your fist. Laughing


Just to add to this, I have the game set to High, with most settings at maximum, but I beleive I turned off the 3D AO that really seems to kill framerate, along with highest shadows - that's on High.

On a 1080 I can run the game on 200% scaling at 144Hz with no bother. It looks sweet too I have to say.


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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 04:14    Post subject:
Xenthalon wrote:
Game is fun men. At least on the first playthrough.

There seems to be a memory leak somewhere though, things get noticeably janky after 2-3 hours. Restarting makes it butter smooth again.


Game was alright for me for first 25 hours.
Then BLEHHHHHH.


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 07:39    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
I remember I couldn't even get Game capture in OBS working period, so I think the whole drama is way blown out of proportion.

That being said, why would anyone buy or play this "game" anyway...

Ok, I let myself out Smile


If someone gets a permanent ban for a stupid software like fraps etc, how is the drama blown out of proportion?

I find your last sentence funny. At least we're not acting like some demented old fart like you've done in the dow 3 thread.
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JackQ
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 07:43    Post subject:
You can turn on FPS display on the game settings no need for 3rd software.

But I agree you shouldn't be banned for that...


Also played first level.. The A.I is bad as fuck... And WTF Bungie?

And I am hoping it gets improvement as you progress.


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Immunity




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 07:51    Post subject:
I've played two days now with MSI Afterburner + RTSS, Steam, and GeForce Experience all enabled in terms of overlays/script-hooks. Granted, none of the overlays work (not even Battle.net's own overlay) , but they are all most definitely running in the background - no ban (**knock on wood** Razz )

There might be some false positives slipping through the crack somewhere (perhaps Windows Gamebar overlay?), but I've got a feeling that the majority of those bitching about "instant bans" are just dirty fucking cheaters. Even if they haven't cheated in Destiny, perhaps they have in other games, and they've got some .reg entries or files strewn about somewhere on their drive that's setting off the flag. I'm not saying that those kind of deep system scans are warranted, but it's a small price to pay to not have to deal with shit-stains.

Out of curiosity, has anyone here that's played it been banned? Also, what's the prevailing theory on how Blizzard's Overwatch anti-cheat works? (with people replacing hardware/networking gear fully and still getting smited?) Seem's like Blizzard has things figured out on that front!


Here's Bungie's updated statement on the matter -
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46426

Quote:

Destiny 2 cannot automatically ban you, only Bungie can ban a player after a manual investigation
Yesterday, we banned approximately 400 players on PC
Bans were applied to players who were using tools that pose a threat to the shared ecosystem of the game (so very vague).
We did not (and will not) issue any bans for the use of overlays or performance tools, including Discord, Xsplit, OBS, RTSS, etc.
Information on using third-party applications can be found here: https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/46101
We are overturning 4 of the bans that were issued during the PC Beta

Update: As part of our ban review process, we have identified a group of players who were banned in error. Those players have been unbanned. The bans were not related to the third-party applications listed above. We will continue to review the process we use to ensure a fun and fair game.


So, maybe there was a bit of a fuck-up! Very Happy


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Kaltern




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 09:00    Post subject:
'A group of players' strongly suggests to me they were indeed running something in the background that Bungie's super-secret anti-everything system decided was naughty, and sent the necessary information to the Bungie Ban Hammer.

While D2 might not autoban anyone, I bet that Bungie's servers have an autoban system when a flag is sent by the client - so TECHNICALLY D2 didn't ban anyone.

It's a poor show, marred by terrible communication and an unwillingness to admit an error. Standard for the course though, tbh, it seems companies want to appear infallible, when the rest of the world know that simply isn't true.


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 12:06    Post subject:
This is tough for console developers, since PC has million different program combinations running at background, console has only its OS Cool Face

Anyway, i love the game so far, but the end game is nonexistant, and that worries me, this is like World Of Warcraft of looter shooters (yes i loved that game, played it like 10 years).

Btw anyone else has annoying microstutter in this game? might be the fast sync which i have enabled, but have not tried disabling it.
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 18:00    Post subject:
Kanint wrote:
Open Settings -> Gameplay
The last entry in Gameplay, right above the category of Text Chat, has the option FPS Display. You'll get a small green counter on the upper right of your screen.


Awesome.



Kaltern wrote:
Just to add to this, I have the game set to High, with most settings at maximum, but I beleive I turned off the 3D AO that really seems to kill framerate, along with highest shadows - that's on High.

On a 1080 I can run the game on 200% scaling at 144Hz with no bother. It looks sweet too I have to say.

I'm running at everything maxed with 150% scaling.
Will try 200% with lowered graphical settings too though.
Maybe it makes the image a bit more crisper than now.


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2017 23:22    Post subject:
VSYNC 60fps setting was causing microstutter along with Nvidia Fast Sync, now its butter smooth when turned off.
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2017 02:49    Post subject:
tried to play it yesterday.
sadly from time to time i just can't jump anymore. nothing happens when i press the jump button.
also supercharged is activated without pressing anything. sometimes right after it's available sometimes after 20-30 seconds.

realized i still had my beta config since all controls were still changed like i want them to.
so i thought maybe that is the reason for my weird bugs and so i just deleted the config file.
now i can't remap numpad + enter in the options anymore (it worked fine in the beta) and so it's unplayable for me.

i can re add my old config and play without jump and randomly activated supercharged or just play with gamepad now. awesome. thank god i didn't payed anything for this.
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Immunity




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2017 05:11    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:

now i can't remap numpad + enter in the options anymore (it worked fine in the beta) and so it's unplayable for me.


Nobody can map keys to their numpads via the in-game config - it was listed as a Day 1 Issue. Which is pretty fucking embarrassing but par for the course in the AAA industry. Sad

I'm using a program called Glovepie 0.43 to remap the keys I want on my pad. I have it set to when I push numpad 0, for example, my keyboard outputs E as well. Technically a macro, but I don't see what harm it could do. I've used it forever when faced with shitty developers not knowing that a numpad is part of a fucking keyboard!

Most people use AutoHotKey....but I can't vouch for that one as the scripting seemed a lot more complicated. Plus, who knows if they ban for it or not.


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freiwald




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2017 15:09    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:
freiwald wrote:

now i can't remap numpad + enter in the options anymore (it worked fine in the beta) and so it's unplayable for me.


Nobody can map keys to their numpads via the in-game config - it was listed as a Day 1 Issue. Which is pretty fucking embarrassing but par for the course in the AAA industry. Sad

I'm using a program called Glovepie 0.43 to remap the keys I want on my pad. I have it set to when I push numpad 0, for example, my keyboard outputs E as well. Technically a macro, but I don't see what harm it could do. I've used it forever when faced with shitty developers not knowing that a numpad is part of a fucking keyboard!

Most people use AutoHotKey....but I can't vouch for that one as the scripting seemed a lot more complicated. Plus, who knows if they ban for it or not.


yes still weird that it worked in beta.
i won't use 3rd party tools for stuff like this. haven't done it in games before and won't do it now. i rather don't play at all. still thanks Smile
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l0newolf




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2017 15:22    Post subject:
Meh was right on the edge of getting it until i read this page about the numpad thing, total gamebreaker for me Sad goddamn at the amount of weird things that've appeared since launch for this game
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2017 16:16    Post subject:
No refund option for the blizzard client running this?


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2017 16:29    Post subject:
When or how can you change your subclass?

I chose Titan as starter, but am already in the subclass Sentinel?


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Xenthalon




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2017 17:45    Post subject:
You get side-missions at some point. I think once you assigned the 4 skill points to one of the clusters to the right in your current class a quest opens up that enables switching to another subclass. For my 2nd subclass I had already completed the game when I noticed the quest Laughing

Still, I'm not that sure classes matter that much. With the Ultimates having such a long cooldown you can barely use them.

Furthermore, I kinda have the suspicion that itemization in this game sucks ass. You are only allowed to equip one epic weapon and one epic armor piece. What fun is that? Then you have to fit purples and blues in your other slots and tune them to balance your different weapons. I want to be decked out in all epics, grinding for the ones that best complement each other, and when I become "too powerful" that way give me moar harder endgame Evil or Very Mad

The gunplay however is nice, enemies never feel like the bulletsponges they were in Borderlands.
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