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tonizito
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Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2017 17:52 Post subject: |
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Bob Barnsen wrote: | I just wait for the isodemo, thanks.
I don't want to pay Ubisoft, ok. | Yeah, your money's all gone to EA anyway 
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harry_theone
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Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2017 18:19 Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2017 18:57 Post subject: |
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IamAWESOME wrote: |
Yes. It also depends on what you are looking for. It's great in terms of value. A sheer amount of content and exploration with amazing detail. However, the story isn't great and of course, the game does have all the Ubisoft elements. No collectables but plenty of side activities to do and explore.
None the less, $35 is a good price. |
Luckily they beefed up in the sidequest department. No Witcher3 level of course, but charming little tasks that give some insight into the world.
And i love the photomode.
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Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2017 19:17 Post subject: |
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IamAWESOME wrote: | the story isn't great |
Can you elaborate a little bit?
I've been reading that Bayek's story is good while the modern day story isn't, would you agree with that? Is the modern day story badly written, or is it just short and insubstantial like in post-AC3 ACs?
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Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2017 19:24 Post subject: |
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@Sauronich its your typical john wick revenge plot, its not that engaging. But its serves the purpose to get you around the huge world and see the other stuff the game has to offer. Plus you meet some cool historical people. Cant comment on the ending cuz i havent finished it yet.
Its a step in the right direction of the ubi formula, imho. Hope they evolve on that with Farcry5.
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Nodrim
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Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2017 19:35 Post subject: |
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Sauronich wrote: | IamAWESOME wrote: | the story isn't great |
Can you elaborate a little bit?
I've been reading that Bayek's story is good while the modern day story isn't, would you agree with that? Is the modern day story badly written, or is it just short and insubstantial like in post-AC3 ACs? |
It's much better if you compare it to Syndicate, but it's not at the quality of a good RPG.
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Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2017 19:58 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info guys. Seems like the story isn't an ACU-level dumpster fire, so I'll probably play it after a couple more patches.
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JBeckman
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Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2017 20:22 Post subject: |
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The story isn't bad but it's pretty loosely connected to the game world so the player can run around doing whatever they want and it's usually recommended to take on a few side quests generally located conveniently nearby the main quest locations so you can take it on while either at or slightly above the recommended level.
Being under leveled isn't too bad but since enemies are one to two levels around the quests level it can be a problem if it crosses from red (~3 levels.) to dead. (~5 levels.) meaning it goes to a skull symbol over the enemy soldier or random predatory wildlife since your attacks won't really phase enemies at this point while theirs will end you really quickly.
Bit of a over reliance on leveling and keeping your gear and equipment up to snuff but I really enjoyed the overall game world and the quests are mostly better than in previous games although the tendency for "Go 1000 meters here, now go 1000 meters here." busywork still exists as you traverse these regions through often several stages of the same quest sending you all over the place.
Bayek as a character is pretty good too, historically it's a mess as with the last few games though I think it's a bit less of a mess than Unity and Syndicate was and it's much for gameplay reasons though some of it is a bit questionable even so.
Near end-game spoiler.
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Aya for example walking straight into the Roman senate as a woman, plus in general the portrayal and motivations of characters like Cleopatra and Caesar though due to age it's hard to say for certain but they do go more towards Hollywood type portrayal and simplifying the characters or how to say.
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Armor and weaponry is also quite varied though also not too accurate, Roman armor in particular apparently has it worst though they do avoid some more obvious pitfalls at least such as the later-era Lorica armor which is otherwise a bit too popular though Khopesh type swords are very common despite being out of style for some hundred years and apparently the Medjay practice is about the same.
Pyramids also have some sort of treasure in them (And a metric ton of dirty dishes of no value, plates and such thrown in great piles.) whereas from my understanding it didn't take too long for the obvious tomb containing massive wealth to be mostly completely emptied out. (A few hundred years at most give or take, they're around 2000 years as of the events of the game.)
Overall it's fairly minor though, current gaming climate seem more focused on how Siwa was very open towards homosexuality and how that isn't represented in the game at all.
(Certain Greek and Roman traditions certainly are though, should hear some of the discussions in the bathhouses and similar areas on how they're there to ogle naked young boys and Greeks inventing the threesome, Romans then adding a woman to it, ha ha.)
Eh for what Ubisoft did manage to add to the game while it does have some leanings towards trying to be diverse and certain tropes it's not too bad and well it is a game first and foremost.
EDIT: Meaning that while it might not always be historically correct it works fairly well for the writing and design and such instead of just having it in there for some arbitrary checkpoint to cross off or how to say.
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JBeckman
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Posted: Wed, 15th Nov 2017 21:15 Post subject: |
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Interesting, 1.0.4 on console should be a roll-up of the current 1.0.3 PC patch changes already so I wonder why the 1.0.5 update for PC is delayed though I guess consoles are still prioritized.
Hopefully there's some good PC fixes if they need additional time but it's probably more likely that console platforms are the current focus and 1.0.3 on PC fixes many of the current bugs already.
Though there's still room for additional improvements and Ubisoft not bringing over HDR support is just weird.
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Posted: Sat, 18th Nov 2017 10:24 Post subject: |
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At the beginning of the game you have a friend who shows you a book containing side-quests/help asked by people. Are there more books like this later on, or is that the only one? So far I think I'm level 14 and the other side-quests I've found were from the world.
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Posted: Sat, 18th Nov 2017 10:48 Post subject: |
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Il_Padrino
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Posted: Sat, 18th Nov 2017 10:50 Post subject: |
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Also, some sidequests are chained and appear only when you completed another one first.
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Posted: Sat, 18th Nov 2017 13:07 Post subject: |
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A tip is not to go to the question-marks (as done in previous titles) because you will get there eventually when doing quests (they lead you there).
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Posted: Sat, 18th Nov 2017 14:24 Post subject: |
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Posted: Sat, 18th Nov 2017 14:44 Post subject: |
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Yondaime wrote: | Well, after 47 hours I've completed the story with 98% Game Progression % and max level. I think the only thing preventing me from 100% is that I haven't unlocked all skills and a bit of hippodome. So I'm done, was very enjoyable.
I'm really hoping they expand their new mechanics and way of doing things for the next game and I'm also hoping they've brought some of these things with them into Far Cry 5 (as in, the will to change up the formula a little bit).
For me this is the first AC game I've really liked since the first one. |
They will surely bring something in Far Cry 5 for sure ... dumbass AI!
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dethy
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Posted: Sat, 18th Nov 2017 18:05 Post subject: |
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Some day, they'll start using machine learning for AI improvements. They already experimented with DOTA and stuff no?
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Posted: Sat, 18th Nov 2017 18:40 Post subject: |
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Yondaime wrote: | Well, after 47 hours I've completed the story with 98% Game Progression % and max level. I think the only thing preventing me from 100% is that I haven't unlocked all skills and a bit of hippodome. So I'm done, was very enjoyable.
I'm really hoping they expand their new mechanics and way of doing things for the next game and I'm also hoping they've brought some of these things with them into Far Cry 5 (as in, the will to change up the formula a little bit).
For me this is the first AC game I've really liked since the first one. |
You really liked the first AC? Always thought it was pretty boring personally but then again stopped playing them at Creed 2, from my understanding that's the game the series peaked at.
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Posted: Sat, 18th Nov 2017 23:49 Post subject: |
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tet666 wrote: | Yondaime wrote: | Well, after 47 hours I've completed the story with 98% Game Progression % and max level. I think the only thing preventing me from 100% is that I haven't unlocked all skills and a bit of hippodome. So I'm done, was very enjoyable.
I'm really hoping they expand their new mechanics and way of doing things for the next game and I'm also hoping they've brought some of these things with them into Far Cry 5 (as in, the will to change up the formula a little bit).
For me this is the first AC game I've really liked since the first one. |
You really liked the first AC? Always thought it was pretty boring personally but then again stopped playing them at Creed 2, from my understanding that's the game the series peaked at. |
First AC felt like a tech demo without structure and AC2 actually was a proper fleshed out game, and the best one of the old formula, with Black Flag being the best overall.
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Posted: Sun, 19th Nov 2017 22:02 Post subject: |
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hello meatballs 
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Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2017 02:22 Post subject: |
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I'll be getting the base game (freebie thrown in with a drive) in a couple of days...is it possible to get the good stuff without crates (as I will never purchase these in any game)?
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