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But thats pretty commom with open world shit though
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 15:31 Post subject: |
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That's a cheap excuse. Multiple RPGs have done a better job at this having larger worlds which makes it so much easier to break the narrative's fluidity. From what I'm seeing, the developers put no effort into this.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 15:36 Post subject: |
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Havent started pllaying it yet so i dont know how it differs, its just that ive seen that in open world games before.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 16:09 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | | That's a cheap excuse. Multiple RPGs have done a better job at this having larger worlds which makes it so much easier to break the narrative's fluidity. From what I'm seeing, the developers put no effort into this. |
Just like Deadfire, though I don't recall you finding that to be an issue then lol
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 16:25 Post subject: |
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I thought that might come up and I'm glad it did. Deadfire is a much cheaper game with a much larger scope as an RPG. However, in Deadfire actions can happen backwards and still have an effects on conversation. It doesn't work all the time, but that's for two reasons: 1.Obsidian always had problems in coding this properly; 2. The writing in Deadfire is lazy sometimes. Nevertheless, there are many instances where prior actions get different results and I've never been locked out of content because of such problems. In Vampyr, the story doesn't acknowledge any of my exploratory actions. The protagonist asks questions about characters that he has met like he never seen them in his life.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 16:26 Post subject: |
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Not really shocked to see the game turned into an mediocre mess although I was really hoping for the opposite.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 16:42 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | | I thought that might come up and I'm glad it did. Deadfire is a much cheaper game with a much larger scope as an RPG. However, in Deadfire actions can happen backwards and still have an effects on conversation. It doesn't work all the time, but that's for two reasons: 1.Obsidian always had problems in coding this properly; 2. The writing in Deadfire is lazy sometimes. Nevertheless, there are many instances where prior actions get different results and I've never been locked out of content because of such problems. In Vampyr, the story doesn't acknowledge any of my exploratory actions. The protagonist asks questions about characters that he has met like he never seen them in his life. |
Be sure to wear your Obsidian Defense Force badge when you head out.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 16:52 Post subject: |
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| trucane wrote: | | an mediocre mess . |
I wish we had more vampire games like this "mediocre mess" 
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 16:56 Post subject: |
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Bloodlines wasn't a very clean mess either 
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 18:41 Post subject: |
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Yes, you are being hypocritical.
I on the other hand have pointed out what I hate about the game, and the reason I didn't bring up the sequencing like you did is because other games I play have the same issue and I understand why it would be a pain to cover that.
But no Obsidian can do no wrong I guess.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 19:36 Post subject: |
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 19:36 Post subject: |
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| AKofC wrote: | Yes, you are being hypocritical.
I on the other hand have pointed out what I hate about the game, and the reason I didn't bring up the sequencing like you did is because other games I play have the same issue and I understand why it would be a pain to cover that.
But no Obsidian can do no wrong I guess. |
I even said in the post above that even Deadfire has this issue. But it's not at as such a scale because, like with many other RPGs, the devs have tried at least partially to make things work both ways. Vampyr's environment is much more enclosed so it should have been easier to deal with this. Even more so when the game's focused on the choices made and their consequences for each group of NPCs.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 19:41 Post subject: |
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guys, is game loading forever for you as well? (actually my game is still loading on vampyr title)
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 19:45 Post subject: |
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| zuzzis wrote: | | guys, is game loading forever for you as well? (actually my game is still loading on vampyr title) |
Tried Vampyr.Network.Fix-CODEX?
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 19:48 Post subject: |
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quick fix for steam network error: go to Vampyr-Engine-Binaries-ThirdParty-Steamworks-Steamv139-Win64 and edit steam_emu.ini find: ### Set Steam connection to offline mode ### Offline=0 ### change the 0 to a 1 and save. done!
P.S Thanks IamAWESOME
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 20:51 Post subject: |
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Finished it with a non-lethal-to-important-people way (guess the scores of Pridwen and Skal mobs don't count ) and managed to save anyone who could be saved (except  Spoiler: | Trump, I let Trump die in dignity as a reformed man ) |
. Yes, there's a | Spoiler: | Trump NPC in the game |
There are four endings from what I see. Got the "best" one now.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 21:26 Post subject: |
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@Bendi
Is there the "Evil" ending? Not just bad (as in you failed), but something like in Arcanum or Vampire Redemption or something.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 21:27 Post subject: |
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| Bendi wrote: | Finished it with a non-lethal-to-important-people way (guess the scores of Pridwen and Skal mobs don't count ) and managed to save anyone who could be saved (except | Spoiler: | Trump, I let Trump die in dignity as a reformed man ) |
. Yes, there's a | Spoiler: | Trump NPC in the game |
There are four endings from what I see. Got the "best" one now. |
was it worth it?
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 21:53 Post subject: |
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| h0rnyfavn wrote: | @Bendi
Is there the "Evil" ending? Not just bad (as in you failed), but something like in Arcanum or Vampire Redemption or something. |
There's a good ending, a semi-good, a bad, and an evil one.
Good: | Spoiler: | You controlled your hunger, Redhead joins you, you go to America together and look for a cure for vampirism (or at least the hunger part) |
Semi-Good: | Spoiler: | You control your hunger most of the time, Redhead joins you, you stay in the basement of her dad's castle and look for a cure for vampirism |
Bad: | Spoiler: | You somehow betray the Redhead, Redhead is sad and dies in flames, you go on a sad (red tear!) killing rampage |
Evil: | Spoiler: | You killed everyone, Redhead is sad and dies in flames , you go on a happy rampage, accepting you're a monster. You also join the Republican party |
Even the good ones are tragic though:
| Spoiler: | Erections are controlled by hormones. Your body is dead and therefore produces none. Enjoy eternity with the hot gilf redhead, limpdick |
@lametta
What was worth what? Not killing anyone? Only if you like sapp...happy endings. But it's a challenge , I must say. Sometimes I just ran away from the mobs, I was like level 20 and they hit me with 35, and combat xp is meh
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 21:53 Post subject: |
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| zuzzis wrote: | quick fix for steam network error: go to Vampyr-Engine-Binaries-ThirdParty-Steamworks-Steamv139-Win64 and edit steam_emu.ini find: ### Set Steam connection to offline mode ### Offline=0 ### change the 0 to a 1 and save. done!
P.S Thanks IamAWESOME |
Yes, Codex released a fix for that, it is basically their steam_api.ini with that Offline=1
Just to clear it up for anyone still confused.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 22:12 Post subject: |
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@Bendi
Damn..this is so boring and lazy... | Spoiler: | Why most of the devs "force" you to kill everyone to get the evil ending? This is so banal...
And why can't we slowly corrupt Redhead and make her The Queen of The Damned and rule over pitiful mortals! |
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 22:26 Post subject: |
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There's an explanation why she doesn't want to do it.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 22:30 Post subject: |
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What are the requirements for the good ending? Not to feed on NPCs or to save every NPC?
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 22:38 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | | AKofC wrote: | Yes, you are being hypocritical.
I on the other hand have pointed out what I hate about the game, and the reason I didn't bring up the sequencing like you did is because other games I play have the same issue and I understand why it would be a pain to cover that.
But no Obsidian can do no wrong I guess. |
I even said in the post above that even Deadfire has this issue. But it's not at as such a scale because, like with many other RPGs, the devs have tried at least partially to make things work both ways. Vampyr's environment is much more enclosed so it should have been easier to deal with this. Even more so when the game's focused on the choices made and their consequences for each group of NPCs. |
More enclosed? It's basically just quests and the faction system in Deadfire where I can offer a response to something I have no idea about.
Deadfire just skips the introduction part by the quest giver and just assumes you already know about it.
Anyway, quitting for now and will be restarting the game because fucking hell are the dialog options vague as fuck.
| Spoiler: | Do not charm Dorothy Crane |
I thought that was the ideal choice because I managed to unlock it, but it just plunged the district into chaos. The wording should have been more specific about what bits of memory were to be wiped.
| Spoiler: | I thought it was just the blackmailing thing, not stopping the medical dispensary. |
Also the UI sucks, and they really should give quest items a proper name. Like Bernard's watch or something because I accidentally sold a watch and now the quest it is tied to is completed. Eugh.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 22:41 Post subject: |
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Plot spoilers in spoiler tag 
Pretty much that. And I think you also shouldn't | Spoiler: | betray the redhead by turning Trump into a vamp |
I believe you can still get the good ending even when npc's die if you don't save them or because of your actions (there will be a time when | Spoiler: | you can leave a powerful Skal leader alone. Hint: he WILL go insane if you do not do something to help |
Oh, and I sometimes save-scummed by manually backing up the one save you get.
It's in C:\Users\profilename\AppData\Local\AVGame\Saved. Game alt-tabs wiithout a problem, so no biggie.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 22:42 Post subject: |
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| Bendi wrote: | | There's an explanation why she doesn't want to do it. |
The more interesting it would be to corrupt her. And this ending should be difficult to achieve.
@AKofC
Gamesavemanager is your friend. I use it for any game that has only one autosave slot
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 22:43 Post subject: |
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Thanks I'll give that a look.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2018 22:46 Post subject: |
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| h0rnyfavn wrote: |
Gamesavemanager is your friend. I use it for any game that has only one autosave slot |
Oh thanks, didn't know about this.
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