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garus
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Posted: Wed, 18th Jul 2018 11:36 Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 18th Jul 2018 23:01 Post subject: |
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Civ01 wrote: |
Has anyone tried to do basic and very approximate math? Let's take average values. Steam has 15millions concurrent users every day, and around 15k games total. Let's use these numbers, 15 mil * 30$ = 450000000$/15 000 = 30k a month very AVERAGE value (minus steamcut so 20k). Most indies on Steam (93%) never make it above 30k/year. So the average is pretty good for indies but an absolute kill for AAA unless they go episodic model. |
There are currently 25k+ games on Steam - http://alpakka.kapsi.fi/stuff/steam_viewed_all.jpg . A lot of those "15 million users" have 0 games in their libraries (or play free games and giveaways) and probably at least 20% from the others are just bots. If Steam get's sub only those numbers will drop dramatically. So with that math, and let's say 5 million users (and that's generous) the monthly sum ends at $4k which is pitiful even for Indies who live in 1st World Countries. It can decrease the shovelware but will also stop devs from making more than 1 game as it will just decrease the monthly payment and everyone will look for other platforms.
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Keit
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Posted: Wed, 18th Jul 2018 23:22 Post subject: |
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prudislav
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Posted: Wed, 18th Jul 2018 23:29 Post subject: |
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lot of it is pretty much the standard corporate environment and unspoken "rules" of it .... said in ostentatious and exagerrrated way for the "social media" fame and probably satisfy his own anger
I guess the guy just isnt fit for corporates
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Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2018 00:07 Post subject: |
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You think the guy gains anything from it ? If anything, he's making himself impossible to hire.
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prudislav
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Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2018 00:45 Post subject: |
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well he said it himself in some of the tweets that he exagerrated some of them to make it more funny,
also love how ResetERA and similar boards take it as ... "ex-Valve employee sharing experience in Valve" when the guy himself says that " most of the things I’m talking about ....occurred 5-10 years ago. It’s ancient history now" and he worked "at numerous different companies including Valve and Microsoft ".
So in reality its more of a
"industry veteran (with experience in valve and MS amongs others) ranting about certain kind of corporate structure"
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Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2018 13:52 Post subject: |
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Well, do you expect him to say: "This all happened at Valve" ? That will surely bring some lawyers to his door for name shaming at least. And I guess he is now working for himself or with close friends because such tweets will make any company think twice about hiring him no matter how good he is.
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Posted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2018 09:42 Post subject: |
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Il_Padrino
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Posted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2018 13:06 Post subject: |
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The guy sounds extremely cynical and paranoid.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2018 10:14 Post subject: |
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You mean he being realistic?
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Il_Padrino
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Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2018 10:19 Post subject: |
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I don't work in the games industry, but also in ICT as a freelance consultant, and while some things are somewhat recognizable, a lot seems exaggerated.
Granted, I never worked for larger companies, like the Big 4, where the internal competition is a lot harsher, but the work experiences there are more the exceptions than the rule. And there are plenty of alternatives that offer better and healthier environments.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2018 11:14 Post subject: |
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Il_Padrino wrote: | I don't work in the games industry, but also in ICT as a freelance consultant, and while some things are somewhat recognizable, a lot seems exaggerated.
Granted, I never worked for larger companies, like the Big 4, where the internal competition is a lot harsher, but the work experiences there are more the exceptions than the rule. And there are plenty of alternatives that offer better and healthier environments. |
It's mostly a list of stuff that is important if you work for big corporations where lots of cliques, backstabbing and power struggles are floating around the place.
But as you say, it's mostly exaggerated, very American (quite a lot of it doesn't apply to the EU for various reasons) and it reads like a "list of all the stuff I've heard happened to friends or friends of friends". Basically, if you followed that list completely, you'd never find a job.
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harry_theone
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Morphineus
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Posted: Tue, 24th Jul 2018 00:30 Post subject: |
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So it was them that caused that shit... Motherfuckers!
Had all kinds of categories, hidden about 1000 games... all gone. 
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tonizito
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Posted: Tue, 24th Jul 2018 00:54 Post subject: |
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Y'all must have done/said something, no issues here 
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Posted: Tue, 24th Jul 2018 08:15 Post subject: |
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I would be mad if all my categories would be gone. Going through all the games again, putting in different categories, sorting finished games and so on...
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Posted: Tue, 24th Jul 2018 08:20 Post subject: |
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Mine sometimes disappear then come back like the next day or so
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Posted: Tue, 24th Jul 2018 14:10 Post subject: |
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Got back from work, all the categories are still here. I remember that happened some time ago when I launched Steam on my laptop which I rarely use.
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Posted: Tue, 24th Jul 2018 15:00 Post subject: |
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I had that with new installations - but Steam better not fuck up. Took me a day to sort all 1500 games.
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Posted: Tue, 24th Jul 2018 23:40 Post subject: |
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how do I make myself invisible/offline upon launch of steam now?
3080 | ps5 pro
Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
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Posted: Wed, 25th Jul 2018 00:37 Post subject: |
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oh shit now they pushed this ugly ass beta update for everyone.
add this to your steam shortcut -nochatui -nofriendsui
you will have the old styled chat and friendlist then
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Posted: Wed, 25th Jul 2018 09:47 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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Posted: Wed, 25th Jul 2018 13:06 Post subject: |
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Areius wrote: | Old chat will be removed soon, so don't bother.
Also, you can backup your categories. I do that every now and then. |
im using the old chat and friendlist style as long as i can, with those 2 commands.
maybe there will be a proper option to make the new design not as big and ugly as it is now until the old design gets removed by valve.
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Posted: Wed, 25th Jul 2018 15:15 Post subject: |
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Areius wrote: | Old chat will be removed soon, so don't bother.
Also, you can backup your categories. I do that every now and then. |
How?
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Posted: Wed, 25th Jul 2018 15:32 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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Posted: Wed, 25th Jul 2018 19:47 Post subject: |
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So the new chate actually remembers than i am invisible... but it pops up upon windows starting...
3080 | ps5 pro
Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
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