Star Citizen (Chris Roberts is back!) [Beta in ∞ years]
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2018 10:57    Post subject:
Wait, so the backers can't watch a livestream of the event unless they pay up?

Wtf...

EDIT: Wait, I should repost the video for the new page, this is too good to bury

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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2018 11:03    Post subject:
Maybe they're laying the ground work for having the sheep pay $20 to test the alpha's from now on? Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2018 11:12    Post subject:
First you gotta have an Imperioratum subscription in order to unlock exclusive content, like the Test Pilot Alpha Access. And of course you need to buy an experimental Thundercat XS8 to actually be able to leave the Hangar and fly around the system. In order to jump to another system you'll need the Explorer Pass, which comes with a bonus ingame duster jacket!

The Eplorer Pass is only given to full citizens of course, so you need to first buy some land on a planet, then apply for Star Citizenship, a 1-time purchase of 60$, great value for money in the long run.
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2018 11:43    Post subject:
I was thinking there is some news about the 3.3 release but of course the bumps is about CIG fucking up something again.

There is an official Chris Roberts' response at least: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/citizencon-streaming

Quote:
we will have the opening keynote and my closing available for everyone that has a Star Citizen account, no digital pass required, with the other sessions requiring a digital pass to see live (and remember you'll be able to see these at your leisure, no restrictions a few days later)


So it looks like the opening with probably some trailer and the closing will be available to everyone with an account. After 2-3 days everything else from the live steam will be available for everyone to watch on YouTube. Not as bad as it initially looked like with those $20 Digital Passes but still I don't understand why CIG are even going for such expensive event approach without even having a proper game to show.
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2018 12:57    Post subject:
They see Blizzcon and whatevercon, notice: hey this makes proper money... let's do this!

Forgetting they haven't even finished one game. Having only one unfinished game that people backed years ago and they figured it was okay to milk em even more.

If they ever release the game, like hell this crap will stop.


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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2018 13:01    Post subject:
I don't get why people are bitching about this. We should feel privileged that Mr. Roberts is fucking us in the ass.


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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2018 16:47    Post subject:
When the game is going to come out it will be better than reality. You will not want to disconnect from your CIG Chris Roberts VR Goggles (tm)* to live in your peasant reality. Just connect your CIG Chris Roberts PooperPisser (tm) and CIG Chris Robers approved IV filled with Sweet Lies (tm) vein grub.

*Hardware not certified by Chris Roberts CIG RSI doesn't support Star Citizen and Squadron 42.


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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2018 17:00    Post subject:
https://www.twitch.tv/starcitizen


They are live (for free).
Don't miss it, next time you may have to pay or subcribe Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2018 17:03    Post subject:
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PredOborG




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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2018 23:45    Post subject:
Aaaaaand the paid livestreaming is gone. Laughing

Quote:
After sleeping on this, I am going to chalk this one up to experience.

We're going to cut back on the live-streaming crew / costs but have both stages streamed for anyone with a Star Citizen user account.

Star Citizen Content Creators are welcome to rebroadcast our stream live.

If you would like to support the additional costs of streaming all the presentations, you can support the show by purchasing the CitizenCon digital goodies package (Imperators still get this as their October flair)
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Aug 2018 23:48    Post subject:
Crying or Very sad Sad


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 00:36    Post subject:


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 00:44    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 00:48    Post subject:
Wonder if the fans are already going: Thanks arses, we could have had a better stream! Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 04:27    Post subject:
Haha Very Happy Laughing
The way the message is worded sounds like people are expected to be genuinely grateful that the streaming no longer costs 20 dollars. A temporary divine concession for all the beloved cultists, in the name of the Roberts!
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 08:21    Post subject:
But but but live streams are very expensive these days, don't yall now ? Crying or Very sad
They may announce some planned game features removal to compensate the costs !


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 08:28    Post subject:
You should feel bad. Not wanting to pay 20 dollars for a stream means somebody just lost a job because of you, niggards!


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 09:41    Post subject:
Cutting costs, what does the retard mean? Why can't they apologise and say they decided to give everyone with a SC account access to thank the community for their support or some shit?
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 09:56    Post subject:
I wonder if any part of the game(s) has reached 20% completion yet. Chris Roberts made some great games back in the day but this time he went stellar (pun intended) with his vision and intent leading to difficulties finding a single publisher/investor ready to put down a Quadruple-A budget for a game system that transcends anything we've seen so far (and which may be impossible to pull off anyway) and instead bleed the backers and supporters dry to keep paying for their expensive offices with luxury furniture etc. as well as tons of useless stuff that doesn't have anything to do with developing the game (except as PR).


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 10:20    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
I wonder if any part of the game(s) has reached 20% completion yet.


According to the last Progress Watch on Reddit, even 3.3 is 37% ready with only 1 month left to release it Laughing
And I was always sure Chris Roberts (at least since Microsoft booted him out from Freelancer since he wanted some ridiculous budget at that time) is the kind of a person with a labile mind when purchasing stuff. He probably goes to the shop only for a toothpaste and comes back 2 weeks later with 5 electric toothbrushes, a new car, new 6k TV, most expensive PC atm and a kilo of coke. Such person should never have large amounts of money in him and here we are giving him $200+ millions and hoping he will release the best space game ever. Even that he has great vision and ideas for games is useless when he cant control himself.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 11:43    Post subject:
You know what's funny?
When I read the title "[Beta in 2046]", my first thought wasn't the usual "yea I get it, joke", but "hmm, atleast there is a date now".
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 13:05    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
I wonder if any part of the game(s) has reached 20% completion yet. Chris Roberts made some great games back in the day but this time he went stellar (pun intended) with his vision and intent leading to difficulties finding a single publisher/investor ready to put down a Quadruple-A budget for a game system that transcends anything we've seen so far (and which may be impossible to pull off anyway) and instead bleed the backers and supporters dry to keep paying for their expensive offices with luxury furniture etc. as well as tons of useless stuff that doesn't have anything to do with developing the game (except as PR).


Roberts needs someone to keep him in check. What happens with SC already happened with Freelancer. He's too ambitious for his own good. Microsoft had to spend millions and millions of dollars and a couple more years of development time just to release a stripped down version of Freelancer after they got rid of him for mismanagement.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 15:27    Post subject:
He was probably pocketing a huge salary from Microsoft without intending to ever release a game. That won't fly for long. But years later the crowdfunding culture enabled hkm to do just that. Have a big salary and constantly be the center of attention about his super awesome vision.

Without delivering what the fans basically wanted all along: SQ42, the space epic people want to play
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 17:06    Post subject:
Anyone still expecting this to be released is, I'm afraid, intellectually retarded. It is just an ongoing scam, designed to try and slurp as much cash from the gullible as possible. This PPV shite was just another attempt at scamming which, this time, was a step too far it seems.

At least this time you got to watch something for paying. Those thick fucks paying money for concept art deserve destitution.


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 17:23    Post subject:
It'd be hilarious if this is what finally breaks the camel's back.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Sep 2018 17:35    Post subject:
Seriously, what's to stop Roberts stringing this along ad infinitum, until he dies or has spent all the money?
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Sep 2018 07:03    Post subject:
bronson wrote:
Roberts needs someone to keep him in check. <snip>


I think you're 100% correct. He seems to be a terrible leader, project manager and planner. He's a visionary lacking the more practical qualities needed to bring something like this to fruition by overreaching and underestimating basically every stage of production.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Sep 2018 07:51    Post subject:
He isn't even visionary. His game projects are not some ground breaking ideas, they are just big in scope.

They doesn't have some original gameplay mechanics or weird ideas. The other fraud with his god-sims could be called visionary and at least in his golden age made some great and interesting games.
Robert is like a child who says we will have a space sim but you will be able to do everything not only fly in space, but also walk on planets and stations (shit and pissing excluded). Which is something that isn't some brilliant new idea.
Just wasn't really made by anyone because not everything on paper is great in final project. To be honest walking freely on a ship is just a gimmick, you could call immersion but put on perspective sooner or later a player would want just to get in the cockpit without all the animations he has to see for 100x time and just fly to another fucking mission point.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Sep 2018 08:28    Post subject:
Well, that's part of the vision: to get more immersed and feel like you're actually more than just a teleporting avatar. But that's basically only interesting for hardcore simulation fans that actually do want to do all the stuff we do in real life (not flying space ships but the physical things). I could see how it's alluring, esp. if combined with very good virtual reality. Not really my cup of tea though since I find the idea of spending 10 minutes just walking from my quarters to walk to my ship and embark very tedious.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Sep 2018 08:33    Post subject:
True. Shafer and Molyneux could be considered visionaries when it comes to overpromising devs (to put it very lightly), but Roberts seems to be just a bad leader. Good con artist though.


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