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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 16:27    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
Game of Thrones Patch 8.05 notes:

- Scorpions now have -50% hit rating
- Iron Fleet may now only fire one bolt at a time
- Buildings and structures now take 500% more dragonfire damage. (Developers notes: We noticed that dragonfire was ineffective against buildings and structures in previous patches (8.03) for the Army of the Dead faction, to a point where a single Hero class could hide behind a rock and take zero damage. We believe this hotfix will address future dragonfire siege damage against buildings)
- Daenerys Hero class and infantry for Targaryen faction have had their sanity reduce by 100% and will often attack random enemy and neutral units
- Arya hero class health increased by 400%

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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 16:57    Post subject:
Better episode than the last 2 that's for sure.

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1 more EPISODE Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 17:00    Post subject:
About Cersei's fate:

Quote:
"And when your tears have drowned you, the Valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you."

(Valonqar meaning 'little brother' in Valyrian)

But this part of the prophecy didn't make it to the show, apparently...
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 17:22    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Il_Padrino wrote:
madmax17 wrote:
https://twitter.com/UncrisiIencieux/status/1127873408060903425

First scene of the next ep. Laughing Laughing

No, next episode will begin with: "so the dragon killed about half of King's Landing" Razz
Laughing wouldn't surprise me.
We'll also see the other half of king's landing, the red keep, etc etc Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 18:02    Post subject:
They so messed up this season. Like they were trying to get rid of it in a way.

Maybe they filmed another 6 normal episodes where the things aren't so f**ked up, and that's why it took so long xD


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 18:33    Post subject:
That was amazing. Holy shit. She went full mad finally. I watched the whole episode in awe and shock.
You are all stubborn fucks and this is why we can't have nice things. I've even noticed angry joe thumbnail probably hating this episode.... people hate everything just for it not being perfectly as they imagined in their hyped up minds. This is what good movie is about - to surprise You.... I mean I was expecting her to go mad for like 5 years now but still Laughing

edit: Also - people now suddenly not happy that character die without a proper ending to their arc through the whole series. I think that it would be stupid if everyone died as expected and a bad guy who redeemed himself (or other way around) should die a hero. why? Not everything should be written according to "film making book 101, chapter 3 how to write a character arc". I mean cmon - I might be unsatisfying if our beloved character dies.... just dies... but it would be cliche otherwise.


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 18:41    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
That was amazing. Holy shit. She went full mad finally. I watched the whole episode in awe and shock.
You are all stubborn fucks and this is why we can't have nice things. I've even noticed angry joe thumbnail probably hating this episode.... people hate everything just for it not being perfectly as they imagined in their hyped up minds. This is what good movie is about - to surprise You.... I mean I was expecting her to go mad for like 5 years now but still Laughing


This is why we can't have nice things Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 18:52    Post subject:
It's not perfect. The decisions are weird and sometimes unexpected... and I would've done some things differently but well - this is what we got and I enjoy it a lot. Let's see how George will finish it... There is still 1 episode left, so let's hope the payoff will be worth it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 18:53    Post subject:
@KillerCrocker

oh yeah, you were raving about ep.4, no wonder you like this one.

Her going mad made little sense, she was always careful not to harm civilians why throw all that away on impulse, also she said once 'I am not the mad King' and Varys agreed as well as Tyrion.

Also Varys is an idiot, he was pushing her idiot brother Viserys to be king, a version of Tageryn Jeoffrey, he can't spot a solid ruler to save his life. Viserys supported slavery, he was spoiled and cruel, vain and an idiot, a complete turd and Varys wanted him to rule.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 18:56    Post subject:
But You could see her growing with craze for the throne for years now. It is not weird and definitely not the worst part of the episode. The worst part is the Tyrion and Varys part... wtf


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 18:56    Post subject:
I'm not sure surprise is the right word, we all know this persons background, it would have been pretty idiotic to not use that. Also this is the kind of things that differentiates dark fantasy from fantasy, Harry Potter it aint, and i'm happy they do the genre justice in that regard. Execution wise it was rather lame.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 18:57    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
This is what good movie is about - to surprise You.... I mean I was expecting her to go mad for like 5 years now but still Laughing


So, if an X-wing showed up and shot down Drogon from the sky to save King's Landing, this would make for a great movie, right!?
You took a blind guess based on nothing and you feel proud or what? It's quite clear that you don't really understand what makes a good story. But I'm not surprised considering that on/off switch for your brain. Laughing

KillerCrocker wrote:

edit: Also - people now suddenly not happy that character die without a proper ending to their arc through the whole series. I think that it would be stupid if everyone died as expected and a bad guy who redeemed himself (or other way around) should die a hero. why? Not everything should be written according to "film making book 101, chapter 3 how to write a character arc". I mean cmon - I might be unsatisfying if our beloved character dies.... just dies... but it would be cliche otherwise.


Look into character growth. Being predictable isn't inherently a bad thing. It's about the exposition of something predictable that makes the difference. Being unpredictable isn't inherently a good thing. It's about the exposition of an unpredictable action that makes the difference.


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 18:59    Post subject:
It wasn't that bad... You are overreacting and there is no need to insult me


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:04    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
But You could see her growing with craze for the throne for years now. It is not weird and definitely not the worst part of the episode. The worst part is the Tyrion and Varys part... wtf
Laughing never saw her went crazy, not once, before this episode. Even when she crucified the masters which was a revenge for them crucifying the children.

She was always calm and only went crazy after Tyrions strategy blunders.

Also what purpose was her army, she never needed them in the end, the dragon did everything, the story has more holes then Swiss cheese after Al Capone had it.



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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:07    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
It wasn't that bad... You are overreacting and there is no need to insult me


You are actually right this time. It wasn't bad, it was horrible. The writing had almost no redeeming qualities and that's not all:
- Varys got killed in the most idiotic way, mirroring in a way Littlefinger's death. It's quite obvious these characters were too intelligently written in the books and without the books, DnD had no idea what to do with them. Since when Varys works so upfront?
- Daenerys turned mad over the course of two fuckin' episodes. Her character development went through warping chapters that put Arya's or Euron's warping skills to shame.
- Jon's army charged without any order from Jon snow. Why? Because a 5th rate character like Greyworm threw a spear?
- All the things Jon had to go through because he decided to support Daenerys are actually experienced in this episode by Arya.
- Why the fuck is the army in front of those huge walls?
- Why is Davos in the front line?
- Why the skorpions can't shoot or hit for shit now? Daenerys and Drogon did Chinese level of grinding between episode 4 and 5 to outlevel Euron's plot armor?
- Why is Jaime going back to Cersei after years of character development that put him as far as possible from her?
- What happened with the Cersei - Jamie - Euron baby plot? Was that for nothing?
- Why is the dragon's fire more effective than missiles?
- What the fuck is up with the scene cutting? It's always swapping from one falling character to another. That's such a bad cinematographic technique.
- They did 30 minutes of dragon CGI in this episode but couldn't put a patting scene with Ghost?


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:12    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:


edit: Also - people now suddenly not happy that character die without a proper ending to their arc through the whole series. I think that it would be stupid if everyone died as expected and a bad guy who redeemed himself (or other way around) should die a hero. why? Not everything should be written according to "film making book 101, chapter 3 how to write a character arc". I mean cmon - I might be unsatisfying if our beloved character dies.... just dies... but it would be cliche otherwise.

It's not the destination but the journey (also called an 'arc' Razz )

Btw, the show is 100% cliché since season 7 (at least).
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:13    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
It wasn't that bad... You are overreacting and there is no need to insult me

Why Do you even care what Nerd derps think about this, just enjoy it like most people and you are fine. Nothing wrong with that.

Nerd derps are the New sjw. Same lvl of stupidity
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:14    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
It wasn't that bad... You are overreacting and there is no need to insult me


You are actually right this time. It wasn't bad, it was horrible. The writing had almost no redeeming qualities and that's not all:
- Varys got killed in the most idiotic way, mirroring in a way Littlefinger's death. It's quite obvious these characters were too intelligently written in the books and without the books, DnD had no idea what to do with them. Since when Varys works so upfront?
- Daenerys turned mad over the course of two fuckin' episodes. Her character development went through warping chapters that put Arya's or Euron's warping skills to shame.
- Jon's army charged without any order from Jon snow. Why? Because a 5th rate character like Greyworm threw a spear?
- All the things Jon had to go through because he decided to support Daenerys are actually experienced in this episode by Arya.
- Why the fuck is the army in front of those huge walls?
- Why is Davos in the front line?
- Why the skorpions can't shoot or hit for shit now? Daenerys and Drogon did Chinese level of grinding between episode 4 and 5 to outlevel Euron's plot armor?
- Why is Jaime going back to Cersei after years of character development that put him as far as possible from her?
- What happened with the Cersei - Jamie - Euron baby plot? Was that for nothing?
- Why is the dragon's fire more effective than missiles?
- What the fuck is up with the scene cutting? It's always swapping from one falling character to another. That's such a bad cinematographic technique.
- They did 30 minutes of dragon CGI in this episode but couldn't put a patting scene with Ghost?


Don't forget the 20.000 strong Golden Company actually being just a few hundred soldiers in front of the gate and getting obliterated within a minute.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:16    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:

Why Do you even care what Nerd derps think about this, just enjoy it like most people and you are fine. Nothing wrong with that.

Nerd derps are the New sjw. Same lvl of stupidity



So we're stupid because we want a more intelligent show? Laughing

lol wut
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:22    Post subject:
Yeah yall nerds just need to turn your brain off and enjoy the show Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:24    Post subject:
This season sucks. And since the spoilers were all right so far, my guess is that the series finale will suck too then since it should be right.

Basically reminds me of LOST. Great show, ruined towards the last 2 seasons.

I don't care if KC loves it, good for him... But to me the psychology of the characters doesn't make any sense at all.

It reminds me a bit of Star Wars Episode 3, emo Anakin turning into Darth Vader.. well emo Dany turns into the Mad King in a blink of an eye.

Also don't care if people say there were hints in season 7 when she killed Sam's brother & father. This was forced also to prepare for season 8 idiocy. I remember being shocked back then because her motive didn't make any sense. And it was the only thing she went mad about, the rest she was docile like previous season. Season 8 confirms that.

You want a proper ending? Go watch Breaking Bad last season. And I'm sure some people didn't like the outcome of the main character, YET it made sense, and everything made sense.

This ? Nope. Everything felt forced and rushed, like they had 1 month to write the story.


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:26    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
It wasn't that bad... You are overreacting and there is no need to insult me

Why Do you even care what Nerd derps think about this, just enjoy it like most people and you are fine. Nothing wrong with that.

Nerd derps are the New sjw. Same lvl of stupidity

thanks.... and yet I torture myself on this forum for years now. I find myself loving stuff, to only then see negative opinions on the internet more often recently than before Crying or Very sad
@Nodrim - if YOu think this detailed and nitpicky about everything You watch... sad, sad life. Maybe I would've been so passionate about something years ago but I was 30 this year and I just couldn't bring myself to care so much and nitpick... like I would probably do.


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:29    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
freiwald wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
It wasn't that bad... You are overreacting and there is no need to insult me

Why Do you even care what Nerd derps think about this, just enjoy it like most people and you are fine. Nothing wrong with that.

Nerd derps are the New sjw. Same lvl of stupidity

thanks.... and yet I torture myself on this forum for years now. I find myself loving stuff, to only then see negative opinions on the internet more often recently than before Crying or Very sad
@Nodrim - if YOu think this detailed and nitpicky about everything You watch... sad, sad life. Maybe I would've been so passionate about something years ago but I was 30 this year and I just couldn't bring myself to care so much and nitpick... like I would probably do.


Honestly I don't think people here hate the season just to hate it. Most of us loved previous seasons, at least we found the last one watchable.

Why would we suddenly start hating?

This one is just idiotic, and most of us agree on that.

Good for you you like it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:40    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
freiwald wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
It wasn't that bad... You are overreacting and there is no need to insult me

Why Do you even care what Nerd derps think about this, just enjoy it like most people and you are fine. Nothing wrong with that.

Nerd derps are the New sjw. Same lvl of stupidity

thanks.... and yet I torture myself on this forum for years now. I find myself loving stuff, to only then see negative opinions on the internet more often recently than before Crying or Very sad
@Nodrim - if YOu think this detailed and nitpicky about everything You watch... sad, sad life. Maybe I would've been so passionate about something years ago but I was 30 this year and I just couldn't bring myself to care so much and nitpick... like I would probably do.


You call this nitpicking? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:48    Post subject:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/game-of-thrones/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-5-varys-death-scene-conleth-hill-character-plot-a8910981.html

Game of Thrones season 8: Varys actor Conleth Hill 'frustrated' character got sidelined

The actor who plays Lord Varys in Game of Thrones has candidly admitted to being frustrated with the past few seasons of the show.


I think most actors criticized this season, Kit, Emilia. Also some rebellion during the shooting.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:51    Post subject:
You're not alone KC Wink Though I'm more between the lines atm
I read all the spoilers right after ep4 and I hated it at first but since that time I've somewhat warmed up to them. Ep5 was just as I expected and on top of it delivered visually as well.
Not a fan of how Jaime ended up (and what happened to the Valonquar prophecy) but the other developments aren't that bad at all I think. Since they knew for many years now how it would end though, there could have been a bit more foreshadowing, some of the character developments feel rushed indeed and the last couple of eps definitely used some cheap plot devices not worthy of a GRRM adaptation.
But overall...I'm mostly ok with it. It's not a repeat of the LOST situation for me.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 19:52    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/game-of-thrones/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-5-varys-death-scene-conleth-hill-character-plot-a8910981.html

Game of Thrones season 8: Varys actor Conleth Hill 'frustrated' character got sidelined

The actor who plays Lord Varys in Game of Thrones has candidly admitted to being frustrated with the past few seasons of the show.


I think most actors criticized this season, Kit, Emilia. Also some rebellion during the shooting.



stupid nitpicking nerds
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 20:07    Post subject:
Yeah it's a Serbian-Jew double bluff.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 20:12    Post subject:
I think right now, Grey Worm has a pretty good chance to sit on the iron throne. It's going to be "shocking" as well, just like the writers want! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th May 2019 20:19    Post subject:
^ think Hotpie has a better chance. Or Gendry.
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