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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 16:17    Post subject:
Played about an hour on medium/high settings without issues until walking around Valentine and got two nasty 5 second freezes again just like before 2 GB patch - no idea what causes it. Installed latest AMD GPU drivers... Tried to turn off two cores under task manager which seemed to help, but with noticeable frame drops. I also tried CPU limiter Lasso, but that shit fucked up CPU settings and temperatures altogether - why should I install some unknown program to play a game anyway?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PCRedDead/comments/ds3kk4/stutter_freeze_temporal_fix_red_dead_redemption_2/

Game itself looks amazing, but with those freezes it could get really bad.

PC gaming can be such a fucking pain in the ass sometimes...
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 16:27    Post subject:
Here from the Patchnotes: This should fix your issue finally

https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360038940333/Graphics-stuttering-or-stalling-in-Red-Dead-Redemption-2-on-PC

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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 16:45    Post subject:
DaLexy wrote:
Here from the Patchnotes: This should fix your issue finally

https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360038940333/Graphics-stuttering-or-stalling-in-Red-Dead-Redemption-2-on-PC

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Thx. Finally they're acknowledging that issue. Gonna try this, hopefully it works for me too.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 20:42    Post subject:
After the patch and with the cpuloadbalance the game is smooth as butter Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 21:18    Post subject:
StrEagle wrote:
cpuloadbalance

Care to elaborate? Didn't follow all the fixes and workarounds.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 21:22    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
StrEagle wrote:
cpuloadbalance

Care to elaborate? Didn't follow all the fixes and workarounds.


Add -cpuLoadRebalancing in the launch parameters with the Launcher, it should reduce/erase the stuttering encountered by users of 4/6 cores CPUs. Smile
I think it essentially does what the BES/Process Lasso programs were doing, aka avoid a 100% CPU usage bottleneck resulting in constant freezes.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 21:30    Post subject:
Did that work before the patch for the regular freezes that lasted for several seconds?

I kept disabling 2 cores to avoid that.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 21:32    Post subject:
Although I'm not that crazy in buying it and can easily wait for Yarr! version the only difference would be the online play. Regardless of all the bugs etc. is it worth it just for online?


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 21:41    Post subject:
No. You pay for everything and to get the money you need to grind.


Anyways, after the patch, with everything on the absolute lowest settings, except for textures on Ultra, it's buttery smooth in the bayous in RDO, with my GTX1070.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 21:44    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
Anyways, after the patch, with everything on the absolute lowest settings, except for textures on Ultra, it's buttery smooth in the bayous in RDO, with my GTX1070.


That doesn't sound encouraging at all.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 21:50    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
zmed wrote:
Anyways, after the patch, with everything on the absolute lowest settings, except for textures on Ultra, it's buttery smooth in the bayous in RDO, with my GTX1070.


That doesn't sound encouraging at all.

After the absolute nightmare that was pre-patch, I take what I can get at this point. Razz

I'm mostly just too lazy to dive deep into the options, and these setting still look pretty decent.

Before the patch, I had around 20-30 in Saint Denis on a good day. Now it's pushing 60, and that's good enough for me.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 21:56    Post subject:
4690k, 12GB RAM, GTX1070ti:

Well, I can finally say that after the patch, adding the -cpuLoadRebalancing thing coupled with the old async compute tweak, the game doesn't stutter anymore (did several runs on the benchmark) and oddly it feels like there's been a minor average FPS improvement on my end (the game reverted my settings to the lowest as with everyone else, but I've had it saved on a notepad in case something happens, so I've reverted everything to the way it was). I'm playing on Vulkan btw.

But regardless, playing on Fullscreen or Windowed lowers my FPS to the mid-30's lol and the mouse cursor bug still happens as I've previously said. Come to think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if this bug is related to the fucking RSGL leaving some kind of "always-on-invisible-overlay" on the background or some other fuckery like that.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 21:57    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
zmed wrote:
Anyways, after the patch, with everything on the absolute lowest settings, except for textures on Ultra, it's buttery smooth in the bayous in RDO, with my GTX1070.


That doesn't sound encouraging at all.

After the absolute nightmare that was pre-patch, I take what I can get at this point. Razz

I'm mostly just too lazy to dive deep into the options, and these setting still look pretty decent.

Before the patch, I had around 20-30 in Saint Denis on a good day. Now it's pushing 60, and that's good enough for me.


But in this case there's a roughly 150% performance increase...


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 22:00    Post subject:
Patch resets your video settings
I was suddenly getting 120fps in valentine when usually 40
then I noticed blur was on..

zmed wrote:
Did that work before the patch for the regular freezes that lasted for several seconds?

I kept disabling 2 cores to avoid that.


It couldn't have worked pre-patch, as it was added with the patch
and it's goal is exactly to fix the freezes that require you to limit cores
and it works for me


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 22:07    Post subject:
raven_g20 wrote:
Although I'm not that crazy in buying it and can easily wait for Yarr! version the only difference would be the online play. Regardless of all the bugs etc. is it worth it just for online?


It's only worth it if you got a band of friends to play it together with, otherwise I expect it to be a rather poor experience.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 22:09    Post subject:
Un_Forastero wrote:
But regardless, playing on Fullscreen or Windowed lowers my FPS to the mid-30's lol and the mouse cursor bug still happens as I've previously said. Come to think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if this bug is related to the fucking RSGL leaving some kind of "always-on-invisible-overlay" on the background or some other fuckery like that.

I recently saw this bug in GTAV. In fullscreen, the game was massively under-performing (years after it ran smooth on older cards), but in windowed fullscreen, it was smooth. Didn't think that it could be the RS crap that is causing it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 22:12    Post subject:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0W99606Gk8

At 11:27, the "console" settings + 1080 TI runs this game at 40-46 fps at 1440p. Laughing What a crapola.

Oh, it goes lower to 30 fps in 12:02 Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 22:13    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:
raven_g20 wrote:
Although I'm not that crazy in buying it and can easily wait for Yarr! version the only difference would be the online play. Regardless of all the bugs etc. is it worth it just for online?


It's only worth it if you got a band of friends to play it together with, otherwise I expect it to be a rather poor experience.


Hmmm that sounds good. Question though, it might sound silly: can I play this with friends who own and play the game on Xbox or PS?


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 22:15    Post subject:
Oh well looks like the old 4 cores CPU(including mine) are back in business...
As usual it's not the hardware but lazy programming Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 22:41    Post subject:
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddeadredemption/comments/ds01n4/no_true_fullscreen_for_rdr2_on_pc/

Guys, is this true? I haven't tried the game yet. But if this is true, I don't even...

From PCGamingWiki:

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No exclusive fullscreen:
The Fullscreen mode of the game acts as a maximized borderless window, resulting in concerns among G-Sync monitor users.
DirectX 12 does not support exclusive fullscreen but sets to maintain its expected benefits to performance




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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 22:43    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
StrEagle wrote:
cpuloadbalance

Care to elaborate? Didn't follow all the fixes and workarounds.


Just one two posts above is the answer, lazy fucks these days lol
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 22:44    Post subject:
raven_g20 wrote:
TheZor wrote:
raven_g20 wrote:
Although I'm not that crazy in buying it and can easily wait for Yarr! version the only difference would be the online play. Regardless of all the bugs etc. is it worth it just for online?


It's only worth it if you got a band of friends to play it together with, otherwise I expect it to be a rather poor experience.


Hmmm that sounds good. Question though, it might sound silly: can I play this with friends who own and play the game on Xbox or PS?


Unfortunately, no.. really sucks, as the playerbase numbers are nowhere near GTA5.

beyondthesun wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddeadredemption/comments/ds01n4/no_true_fullscreen_for_rdr2_on_pc/

Guys, is this true? I haven't tried the game yet. But if this is true, I don't even...


I can't go exclusive fullscreen in DX12, but then again I'm on Windows 7 still so that might be a factor. I've seen reports that DX12 only does Borderless Window (like the wiki extract you've just posted suggests), but I have no clue since this is actually the first DX12 game that I launched.
Apparently, DX12 libraries/APIs exist for true fullscreen integration, but I guess they didn't bother with it - WoW hasn't either.

Fullscreen works just fine for me in Vulkan though.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2019 23:08    Post subject:
DX12 supports fullscreen, what is this nonsense? UWP doesn't support fs, but this is not a UWP application.
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http://www.dev-c.com/post/script-hook-rdr2-is-released


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2019 06:58    Post subject:
Nice wee boost for me after latest patch Smile

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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2019 08:24    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
Nice wee boost for me after latest patch Smile

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Textures: Ultra
Anisotropic: 16x
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Global Illumination: High
Shadows: High
Far Shadows: High
SSAO: High
Reflection: Medium
Mirror: High
Water: Custom
Volumetrics: Custom
Particles: Medium
Tessellation: Ultra
FXAA: Off, TAA: Medium, MSAA: 0

Near Volumetrics Quality: High
Far Volumetric Quality: Medium
Volumetric Lighting Quality: High
Unlocked Volumetric Raymarch Resolution: On
Particle Lighting Quality: Medium
Soft Shadows: High
Grass Shadows: Medium
Long Shadows: On
Full resolution SSAO: Off
Water Refraction Quality: Medium
Water Reflection Quality: High
Water Physics Quality: 50%
Resolution scale: 100%
TAA Sharpen Intensity: 45%
Motion Blur: Off
Reflection MSAA: 2x
Geometry Level of Detail: 60%
Grass Level of Detail: 50%
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That's impressive for you're hardware.
This stuff is becomming to complicated. I have a gforce 2070 super and getting 60 fps avarage with nvidia experience settings at the same resolution but mine are more ultraish, but i doubt it will make a lot of visual difference. I mean 60 fps is okish, but I have a brand new high end rig.
I realy don't have a clue what settings realy make a visual impact and what is draining fps rate. I also don't feel like spending a lot of time figuring it out. I think a lot more people would enjoy the game i've rockstar just skipped a lot of graphic details, or hide them under an expert tab or otherwise give a warning before using it/maxing it out.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2019 09:27    Post subject:
Nothing impressive there, 1080ti is a RTX 2080 level performance card, dont let the model numbers confuse you, in here bigger number doesnt mean automatically better performance Very Happy.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2019 09:52    Post subject:
Maybe wis can help you?


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2019 10:07    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Nothing impressive there, 1080ti is a RTX 2080 level performance card, dont let the model numbers confuse you, in here bigger number doesnt mean automatically better performance Very Happy.


You're right Very Happy, confused with the 1050 ti cards.
Damn I miss the good old days, like you had a Riva tnt. Then came Riva tnt 2, this was better.
Or take graphics, you could tweak AA, say 2X, or 4x. The visual difference was noticeable and relevant, but also you're loss in fps, it made sense.
I'm getting old i guess.
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