Half-Life: Alyx [VR]
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 14:55    Post subject:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-03-24-the-big-half-life-interview

Meh, the best we non VR plebs get is
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On that note, though, how do you feel in the knowledge that one of the first things people are going to try and do with Alyx is mod it to work in 2D, and make a non-VR version?

Robin Walker: I so want them to do that! I'm so excited to see that! There are a lot of people on the team who have asked this question many times. It's going to happen, and I can't wait. To some extent, everything we just described is about what does VR as a platform and experience bring to the table? And if that is not significant, then it's not interesting? We believe it's significant and interesting. And there's no better way than to play this game in non VR, I think, than to experience that. Of course, a bunch of people on the team probably will be super unhappy with me because they're worried about this. But we can't stop them. I think it would be a lot of work.


But from that shit euroderper journo it's no surprise Sad


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 14:58    Post subject:
This game is just full of So Much Win

Loving it so far, this is how you make a VR game.
Handling is complex but good at the same time.

Only 1h30 in for now, but I had to make a break because ... You know ... these ... head crabs thingies are here and I think it is one of these which felt from the air vent ... I ... just .... can't .... no no no ... I don't want ... no go ... fuck it ...

Also I feel sad for these little green animal which are used for healing ... Crying or Very sad
Especially because they made the same little noise my cat does, you know something like "Brrrreeee ?"
Poor little things.

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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 15:24    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
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12,897 42,858 Half-Life: Alyx

so much for the big vr revolution, while 40k is nice, ud expects a 200k+ peak knowing 300k people preordered
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 15:41    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
11,492 In-Game


12,897 42,858 Half-Life: Alyx

so much for the big vr revolution, while 40k is nice, ud expects a 200k+ peak knowing 300k people preordered


lol wut

Who would expect a 200k+ peak? Are you aware of the time difference around the globe? Games that sell way better usually have between 100k-200k on release...
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 15:48    Post subject:
This is a great number, it's 5 times higher that of Boneworks.

https://uploadvr.com/boneworks-steam-top-100/

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At the time of writing 7,913 people are playing the game and the peak number of players for the day is 8,717.


And Boneworks was selling very well, 100K units in a week, so you do the math how much better this is selling. https://www.roadtovr.com/boneworks-sales-first-week-milestone/

HL: Alyx is also the top selling game now on Steam, it's selling better than Doom Eternal! https://store.steampowered.com/search/?os=win&filter=globaltopsellers

By any sort of measure, the market responded very well to it.


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 15:50    Post subject:
Half-Life 3 (non VR) would have 200-300k players playing at the same time

not a VR game

I think a 42k peak is pretty impressive all things considered

Finished it at 8.8 hours, so pretty much 9

Great game, good ending

Wasn't what I expected, it's no Half-Life

But will definitely be a big push for VR
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 16:36    Post subject:
did valve reveal how much money they spent making the game ? cause if they making their money off the hardware and only break even on the game then other publishers wont invest that kinda money making a triple aaa vr

i think bottem line will be the driving factor here, ah well best of luck to ya vr peepz, u need it Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 16:40    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
did valve reveal how much money they spent making the game ? cause if they making their money off the hardware and only break even on the game then other publishers wont invest that kinda money making a triple aaa vr

i think bottem line will be the driving factor here, ah well best of luck to ya vr peepz, u need it Razz
I'd say the "bottem" line is how much they spent for the game is irrelevant, how much index units it will "move" for them is the more interesting stat.


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 16:43    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
dethy wrote:
I'm taking my sweet time with this game but holy shit, what an awesome experience so far after only a few hours.


+1

finally a good game!

In awe of how fucking great this thing is, finally a serious production from a studio that know how to do shit right. Playing on Vive, wish i could have got an index for this. All the small details and interaction you can have with the game-world, it never takes control, you see and interact with things or you miss it. So many great moments just fucking about and taking it all in.


Dude, I got the Vive and also got the GearVR lenses modkit for it, it's amazing.


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 16:43    Post subject:
for them valve yes, but for other publishers its the deciding factor on how much money they can pump into it and if their calculations end up in the red, they wont bother Sad The days of risk taking are long gone for many of the bigger purlbishers Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 16:43    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
11,492 In-Game


12,897 42,858 Half-Life: Alyx

so much for the big vr revolution, while 40k is nice, ud expects a 200k+ peak knowing 300k people preordered


So many salty mothafuckaz without VR kit Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 17:51    Post subject:
I so much want a VR Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 18:01    Post subject:
Danyutz wrote:
I so much want a VR Crying or Very sad

200€ + shipping and a cv oculus can be yours Mobster with a Fag


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 18:16    Post subject:
The additional cost of having a PC to run the game is also becoming a moot point soon. Once the new consoles release at the end of the year, requirements for PC games will go way above HL:A's. XSX rocks something that performs as a 2080+, so that will be the baseline if you want to play new games with console equivalent settings.

Soon, the only real cost compared to any other modern game will be that of the VR headset, and the game has been confirmed to run pretty ok on even cheap and outdated headsets.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
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"a phenomenon."
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"Like Nothing On Earth"

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waiting for crack this SHIT Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 18:29    Post subject:
https://www.bluesnews.com/s/209369/valve-on-modding-vr-out-of-half-life-alyx

WOW...Never saw Devs actually sound excited for something like this. But then again, never really saw something this big be attempted. Wondering if it can be done.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 18:43    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
for them valve yes, but for other publishers its the deciding factor on how much money they can pump into it and if their calculations end up in the red, they wont bother Sad The days of risk taking are long gone for many of the bigger purlbishers Sad


If their calculations show they would lose money, making such a game wouldn't be risk taking, it would be stupid Laughing

You will probably see games like HL:A being greenlit in the near future but perhaps on a smaller scale. Meaning, maybe not a 15 hour experience, but 5 hours.

Actually, with PS5 and PSVR2 on the horizon we might be in for a surprise. Who knows if there are some super secret AAA VR games in development that have yet to be revealed..

We heard something about Kojima's cancelled Silent Hills becoming a PSVR2 title. If true, that one has a lot of potential...


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 18:52    Post subject:
briangw wrote:
https://www.bluesnews.com/s/209369/valve-on-modding-vr-out-of-half-life-alyx

WOW...Never saw Devs actually sound excited for something like this. But then again, never really saw something this big be attempted. Wondering if it can be done.


Sure, but with some hw requirements, at least if its going to be a similar experience. Keep the original controls (vr controller would be a requirement) as for headtracking we have several outside VR, i guess the head tracking would have to be limited though, more responsive i guess.

otherwise, what would be the point, i doubt it would be a good experience since the controls are built into the gameplay experience itself. im surprised the dev did not point that out.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 19:01    Post subject:
Well.. he kinda did... He said they believe what VR brings to the table is significant and it's not the same thing. He gave a very soft "you are welcome to prove us wrong" type of response, but like I said, very soft Very Happy


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 19:19    Post subject:
It be interesting to see if it's even possible to mod out considering the game launches using the SteamVR stuff. Not to mention the VR related game mechanics in the game where you use two hands as controllers. I mean, you have the left hand grabbing ammo clip from backpack while using righthand to control the weapon.

Wishing best of luck to anyone attempting a mod.


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 21:43    Post subject:
Finished. Motherfuckers.... (ENDING SPOILERS omg don't read)
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Took about 12 hours. Brilliant gameplay, You travel very little distance and the story is kinda small until the very ending. Feels more like ep1 or ep2 rather than full fledged hl3. But still - brilliant.


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 21:48    Post subject:
dethy wrote:
It be interesting to see if it's even possible to mod out considering the game launches using the SteamVR stuff. Not to mention the VR related game mechanics in the game where you use two hands as controllers. I mean, you have the left hand grabbing ammo clip from backpack while using righthand to control the weapon.

Wishing best of luck to anyone attempting a mod.
Yeah, I'm not seeing it happen either.


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 22:27    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Missing the point of the whole franchise asking for the innovation stripped version. The game is built from the ground up to showcase the possibilities / future of Virtual Reality. Buy a VR headset if you truly love the franchise

Scratch Head

Exactly. Don't have vr hen watch it on youtube.
I've finished the game today and it would not be possible outside of vr. It is a ground up vr game. And if it won't push vr mainstream, then the next half-life can be just a normal game... but I don't know if I want another normal game after this... the lighting, textures... what You see on the videos does not cut it. The game looks so good in vr. So realistic. But it does play less bombastic than hl2... it plays different. And it was not easy to stand in place for 12 hours Laughing I wished to sit down every time I;ve seen any old couch in the game


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 22:29    Post subject:
Right... if you don't buy a VR headset to play this then you truly don't love the franchise lol wut Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 22:36    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Right... if you don't buy a VR headset to play this then you truly don't love the franchise lol wut Laughing

No. Nobody said it.
What I mean is - if You don;t want to buy a vr headset (Rift S works great with this), then just watch on youtube but there is no point in remaking this to normal flat screen game


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 22:46    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Missing the point of the whole franchise asking for the innovation stripped version. The game is built from the ground up to showcase the possibilities / future of Virtual Reality. Buy a VR headset if you truly love the franchise

Scratch Head


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Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 22:52    Post subject:
My brother would love to play this, too bad VR developers have completely missed the fact that not all can walk or even stand.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Mar 2020 22:53    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Missing the point of the whole franchise asking for the innovation stripped version. The game is built from the ground up to showcase the possibilities / future of Virtual Reality. Buy a VR headset if you truly love the franchise

Scratch Head

oh that's stupid then Laughing


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