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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Nov 2020 11:24    Post subject:
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Seems that intel has IHS sized security hole in their CPU´s.


In b4 another CPU microcode fix... Cool Face


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Nov 2020 11:37    Post subject:
It's all Laughing until it starts to happen with Ryzen CPU's...


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Nov 2020 11:52    Post subject:
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It's all Laughing until it starts to happen with Ryzen CPU's...


But Lisa said it wont! Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Nov 2020 20:33    Post subject:
https://www.techspot.com/article/2143-ryzen-5000-ipc-performance/


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 08:15    Post subject:
Mmmmh so next Intel 11x00 would have less core count and reduced clocks in some case.

Poker Face

But I am sure they will go like "Hey power consuption is reduced by 15W ! You will save a lot of $$$ on your annual bill ... and oh ... your are welcome !"

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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 11:39    Post subject:
They also seem to go hard on the IPC front, beating out Zen 3 in single threaded loads - albeit at higher frequencies.

The move to go back to 8 cores on their top end model is maximum retarded though.

Meanwhile everyone jumping on that 5900X (like me) to futureproof and get that maximum productivity and gaming balance but with Intel you gotta go pay extra again for their extreme series?

It's like one step forward, one step back with intel while AMD is steadily walking.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 21:15    Post subject:
Unfortunately, I can't find any memory clearance information... No information on what high-profile memory is supported.

Ah, it says 48mm in the specs. Embarassed Doesn't fit the Dominators. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 21:58    Post subject:
Any change they will be making optimized version for smaller CPU´s, this is damn impressive.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Nov 2020 14:26    Post subject:
I’m going to be building a PC for my son for his birthday/Xmas.

I’m going to start him off with a 1080p gaming rig, so I’ll be using my 6500k and mobo. This enables me to upgrade. I was going with a 5600X and managed order when in stock on release, now they tell me it won’t be available till 18th dec and that’s not guaranteed.

I have 2 options I can see.
1) buy a amd mobo and cheaper 2600X to see me though until stock returns to normal and then get the 5600X
2) buy a 10700k and mobo and pay slightly more, but probably the same once I lose money on selling the temp 2600X

I’m committed now and I can’t be without a computer as I also need it for weekend work on CAD

What do you guys think is the best route?
Is the 10700k still a good choice now the 5000 is out


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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Nov 2020 13:48    Post subject:
so is it possible to buy a 5900x ?
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Nov 2020 18:54    Post subject:
I wasn't even sure I was going for this one, but in the end I did. Ordered on release day, but later that evening, so I was far back in the queue. Still, got it quicker than I thought I would.

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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Nov 2020 19:14    Post subject:
These are still dual channel right?
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Nov 2020 19:36    Post subject:
"out of stock"´s everywhere? Sad


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 09:28    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
These are still dual channel right?


yes


Lutzifer wrote:
and yes, mine is only average
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 12:18    Post subject:
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LeoNatan wrote:
These are still dual channel right?


yes

So ridiculous. And they already broke compat with older AM4 stuff, why not just break even, and give this architecture the memory bandwidth it deserves. 3950X was starved, this one is anorexic.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 12:39    Post subject:
Cause buy threadtripper plx


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 12:45    Post subject:
I see that the 9900K has finally dropped considerably in price. Might save up for one to replace my non-K i5-8400. I've been lusting for proper overclocking. Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 12:57    Post subject:
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Cause buy threadtripper plx

The Epyc is eight channel, so they can still take the Threadripper line in that direction. I don't think they compete either way, if you need the extra lanes or cores/threads. It's ridiculous. Just to save a few cheapos the few extra bucks for a new motherboard.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 14:23    Post subject:
Nothing wrong with the dual channel on AM4 platform, if you need quad channel or more you go threadripper and beyond.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 14:48    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
tonizito wrote:
"out of stock"´s everywhere? Sad

Yeah, but if you place an order it typically arrives in two weeks. I haven't ordered one yet, I will wait until next year I think, my 3600 still runs fine until stock stabilizes Razz
Managed to predurr one, now to hope for the best... and start looking for a cooler Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 15:04    Post subject:
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Nothing wrong with the dual channel on AM4 platform, if you need quad channel or more you go threadripper and beyond.

"Nothing wrong" with single core either. The higher end of Zen 2 and above CPUs are starved for memory bandwidth, and are artificially limited by a retarded socket that is long overdue for replacement. It's true to a some extent for Intel CPUs as well, but those are split better into categories. These parts are so artificially limited, they are as retarded as your "nothing wrong" logic.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 15:35    Post subject:
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