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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jun 2021 22:40    Post subject:
Bitcoin and ethereum didn't crash, they spiked.
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jun 2021 22:43    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
I mean making educated guesses on repeating patterns and have your eyes and ears on the psychology of the market is ok and its certainly a viable strategy if you know what you’re doing and know the risk. I’m not saying its impossible to make money if you’re patient and willing to learn. But the market itself is anything but stable. Of course this instability provides opportunities too.

I 100% agree. Its like betting on a young children's soccer game.
Sure you can know which team has the 'better' players. But in the end kids are kids, each game is a pot luck on if they win by 10 or lose by 1 on if you win or lose the bet. Its the long term 'averages' of the chances of them winning from what you know about them vs the other team, that makes you the money.

I see it (the way it makes sense to me anyway) its like writing a program that does random designs. You can never know what it will produce in the long run, and even at times do things that you would have never suspected because the equal to "10 heads in a row coin flip" managed to happen. But at least if you know the rules enough it works by, you can try to work out probabilities what will happen in the short term based on what it did just previous.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jun 2021 23:26    Post subject:
BTC, soe stable right now.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 05:18    Post subject:
"I'm gonna put all my savings on the whims of billionaires and shut my eyes and ears while screaming lalalalalalalalala"
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 16:52    Post subject:
It's not 'crashing', it's 'reverse spiking' Laughing
Latest reason is likely the US government having recuperated part of the ransom paid, after the cyberattack on Colonial Pipeline. BTC, so secure, so untraceable Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 17:00    Post subject:
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/nujuux/first_on_cnn_us_recovers_millions_in/

yes how the fuck did they recover it ??? knew the hackers addres?
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 17:59    Post subject:
@PickupArtist
A crypto wallet (public key) is not secret. Nothing about the transfer, where those coins went, or such is private.
Its how the 'whale watchers' report news on them. They watch for huge transfers to coinbase/bitrrex/whatever, from those wallets addresses to predict a huge sale off soon.

If you opened 50 empty wallets, sent one bitcoin down the line people can see every transfer, when and how much it went thru them all.
Its the foundation of the blockchain and ledger. Its a history of every transaction ever made, when, and between which addresses.

Now WHO owns the wallet is the private part.
Figure out who owns the wallet, you can essentially connect them to it like a cashapp history to that address: what coins and amounts that wallet has sent/got, and when.

And they have to have the hackers address, how else would they send the ransom without a wallet address to send it to?
Hackers was lazy and didn't obfuscate where it went after them. Should have done something like transfer it to an exchange wallet, trade into other coins of random amounts in a different wallet address, and sell it off with it combined with other amounts so the values/total are not the same...or SOMETHING. (Essentially shoplift something and wander into a huge crowd of random people and trade it off to someone else..they cant ask them ALL if they have it)


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 18:32    Post subject:
i guess he didnt want to lose 50% like the india callcenter guys lose, jim browning digged into how they launder their money, its pretty crazy how much they lose in exchanges from gift card to bitcoin, and from coin to google wallet, an funnily enough, people in china are buying the giftcards Surprised paxfull seems popular



cant wait to see the run on the coin banks, all these guys must on the verge of dumping all their coin reserves right now

funny how these indian fellas never hodled, they insta traded everything as soon as possible
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2021 19:00    Post subject:
Good time to be a miner Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 15:52    Post subject:
Something's happening.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 17:01    Post subject:
The Alts are slow to catch up recently
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jun 2021 23:30    Post subject:
I am selling a 3060 ti to a miner, just to confrim, does rev 2.0 can be bypassed?


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jun 2021 01:12    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
Something's happening.


lol

It was moving up, now its moving down again. So stable.


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2021 15:44    Post subject:
Too bad bitcoin can't be mined with GPU's...

So...
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2021 16:24    Post subject:
But the whole market is still very much tied to the BTC price. When BTC falls, the rest follows more or less. BTC dependency is lower than it was before, yes, but its still very clear. Just compare the charts.

So bad news for BTC = bad news for the coins that get mined with GPU too.

Not a difficult implication to make.


But anything can happen, and the price of BTC may just soar to new heights in one hour because some big player buys and tweets something somewhere. No one knows. Except the people who absolutely want something to happen, always seem to find their bias confirmed by some twist.

edit: Some people absolutely want the prices to go down, so they can buy cheap and some people want the price to go up because they bought in high or heavily invested already. These people will sell their wish. Crypto is really full of shills.


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2021 16:51    Post subject:
already at -20% whatch all the shills twitter and ads floodgates open to try counter
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2021 16:59    Post subject:
what's at -20%?
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2021 17:03    Post subject:
Laughing Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2021 17:47    Post subject:
Every... single... week...
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2021 19:33    Post subject:
Sin, I respect and wonder at your stablecoined optimism Very Happy but what it is is what it is. The value in general decreased around 50% or more since a month ago, and it goes deeper and deeper. Just bear or sell, don't get too stoic with it as if nothing happens, because it happens. If you keep denying the major you'll get backlashed again and again, imho.

I have a smaaaall investment as well, but I made peace with these times.


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2021 19:58    Post subject:
It spiked and came back down. How is that so hard to understand lol.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2021 20:52    Post subject:
I admire your optimism, really. And I sincerely hope that, in the middle.long term, you're right.


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jun 2021 21:05    Post subject:
In the end, I don't really have any stake in this anyway. I have a couple GPU's mining, and that's it. I never invested a dime into crypto directly, and the GPU's are also used for gaming.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2021 21:26    Post subject:
Well, mining profits (ETH) are steadily going back up Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2021 00:52    Post subject:
If people would stop equating it to sometime to hoard: I bought one when it was $300, cheered when it hit $400, but now its $200 so I lost $100; and look at it as a tradable commodity: I bought one at $300, sold at $400 and rebought at $200 so now I have two to resell.

The amount of panic and/or 'lawl its crashing, suckers' would go down a lot.
It goes to $1 or $1,000,000 do not care, that just decides if you buy or sell.
[Me myself I'd prefer the $1, as it only needs to raise in value $1 more to $2 to double my money for a sale, vs needing to go up a $1,000,000 more to do the same]

It's a super volatile rollercoaster of whims and changes that can happen because a cow farted a noise that sounded like coin prediction and someone posted a video of it to reddit.
Even if you want to compare it to a tulip market, the only ones that got burned on tulips was the ones buying them to horde because of their individual value. And not the people buying and selling them depending on how much the people hording them want them.
Buy it from them when they panic their digital tulips might not be worth hording after all, sell them back to them when they panic change their mind because two or three green bars happened in a row and they might miss the ride to the moon.


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2021 09:23    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
In the end, I don't really have any stake in this anyway. I have a couple GPU's mining, and that's it. I never invested a dime into crypto directly, and the GPU's are also used for gaming.

What? You play and mine on the same GPU? Neutral
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2021 09:39    Post subject:
I have 3 PC's at home.

Mine, with a 3070 and a 3060, my stepson has a 2080S and my wife has a 2060. All 3 are mining when not used, yes. 24/7.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2021 20:26    Post subject:
Time to buy eth. Well, if you have any money left lol.
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