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PostPosted: Mon, 24th May 2021 08:08    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
... it still feels generic as fuck.


Best description.


This only stands if your are only doing missionary all the time. Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 24th May 2021 11:34    Post subject:
^ Pas mal, hehe.

Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 01:17    Post subject:
Goddamn! The gift that keeps on giving keeps on giving!

https://www.nomanssky.com/prisms-update/

Quote:
Update 3.5, Prisms, dramatically refreshes the No Man’s Sky experience with a range of new visual features and technologies. The universe has never looked better, with reflections, new texture effects, more biome detail, improved lighting, new skies, new warp effects, creature fur, and a host more besides.




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 04:12    Post subject:
LOL LOL
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 05:54    Post subject:
spajdr wrote:


Its actually quite good now.


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 09:09    Post subject:
Yes, it's a good turd.

It also runs 2x worse now.


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 11:52    Post subject:
I think it's a good game, and has been for a while.
Like all games it's just not for everyone.

I'm sure many people would find it boring. I find it relaxing.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 12:02    Post subject:
One of the best games to be released in the last 20'ish years imo.. runs and looks really great too, one of few games where i can take advantage of my 120Hz screen. Seems like they've improved performance even more.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 12:26    Post subject:
Yeah, NMS hasn't been the joke it was at launch for some time already. It does as advertised, and more, not to mention the continuous (free) updates.


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Sin317
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 16:49    Post subject:
It's still as shallow as a puddle. Sadly.

I keep an eye open for Osiris, that game has picked up steam as of late.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 16:50    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
Laughing

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/nqvjer/state_of_the_industry


they'll get there... give them 4 years Very Happy

edit: shallow.. in comparison to exactly what? other survival games? not really.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 17:09    Post subject:
Yes.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 17:55    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
Goddamn! The gift that keeps on giving keeps on giving!

https://www.nomanssky.com/prisms-update/

Quote:
Update 3.5, Prisms, dramatically refreshes the No Man’s Sky experience with a range of new visual features and technologies. The universe has never looked better, with reflections, new texture effects, more biome detail, improved lighting, new skies, new warp effects, creature fur, and a host more besides.


-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRhamOB3-Rc-

New update announced!
update notes:
1. Can ride things.
2. MOAR reflections. Let us show here, reflections here, and over here, and look at that! more reflections on that too! and if you look over here, that floor..you guessed it reflections. You get reflections, and you get reflections, everyone gets reflections!
(I know its more than that, but that trailer spends 75% of the time talking about the super awesome reflections like its a cutting edge feature)

vurt wrote:

edit: shallow.. in comparison to exactly what? other survival games? not really.

Compared to others no, it's along the same lines as expected from survival.

But for me, its the expectation of the setting and genre I suppose that makes it feel less.
When I start as a naked guy building a grass hut, I sort of expect 'basics of survival' as the bulk of gameplay. But here, even with the same mechanics it grows boring quick. I feel its the vastness of the entire universe at you fingertips while in sci-fi ships to visit it all to realize its just the same no matter where you go, or what planet: Fight random creatures, 'punch trees', pick axe rocks...go to other planets, repeat. With some thin narrative mmo type quests tossed in to give it a vague feel of having a direction to nudge me in.

Not saying I know how to fix that, or what could, or that they should as a survival game. But for me its the clash of 'The universe at your fingertips" vs "..and with that in mind, your options is the same as your first week in ARK/Valhiem as a naked guy with a club, but with ships!".


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 18:45    Post subject:
Yes, i think that's what disappoints people, it's on a super grand scale, yet its the same as most other survival games, just way more environments and more vehicles perhaps. For me that puts it above the rest.

Every game that exists has a very repetitive and often shallow nature, it's a few tasks you just repeat over and over. It just depends on if you gel with that or not, tiny and often shallow details in those tasks can make all the difference though because of personal preference.

I own quite a few survival games but ultimately i get bored very, very quickly of them, especially the setting. I don't think i have over 15h on any of those. NMS on the other hand i've played for around 150h, a very impressive amount of hours put in, for any game i would argue. Even if i get bored of it tomorrow and never play it ever again it was a good game with good value in comparison to 90% of what i've bought in the recent 20 years.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 19:02    Post subject:
See I'm the exact opposite on hours. I have maybe 20 in No Mans Sky. About 10 or so normal, and 10 in VR..but didn't grab me.
But I have over 1000 in ARK, 300+ in SCUM, and god knows how many 1000's in minecraft (I ran a public server for 5 years)


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 19:19    Post subject:
SCUM looks pretty cool.. i'll probably buy that since i seem to be collecting survival games, yet not playing most of them or just have some overall idea of "i'll wait until it's better." Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 19:26    Post subject:
It's (SCUM) not bad. It gets a bit boring in about a week tops if your playing JUST PvE. Can only loot places and kill zombies so long before your loaded with gear and food.

But a good bit of fun if playing pure PvP (if thats your thing), or PvP lite* like we do. Where its 6 of us confined to a 4 zone area and PvP happens, but not the main focus like usual on servers. We do "If you see someone and they see you feel free to shoot or don't, but in town expect to be shot at unless both sides agree to 'let me pass thru'; base raiding is frowned on, and when you do kill someone leave at least one gun and ammo they had for them to come get".
Its a bit like day-z if it wasn't broken, done right(ish), and a more depth to the survival parts.


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 19:33    Post subject:
Ok, sounds decent Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 19:39    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
1. Can ride things.
2. MOAR reflections.


Haha I guess if you don’t like the game no amount of visual updates will change that Razz


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Aug 2021 18:58    Post subject:
The gift that keeps on giving is about to give even more! Great video btw Very Happy



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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2021 03:46    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
The gift that keeps on giving is about to give even more! Great video btw Very Happy


Wow. I wonder if they will ever do a paid DLC. I think they deserve it at this point.


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2021 09:42    Post subject:
Big_Gun wrote:
headshot wrote:
The gift that keeps on giving is about to give even more! Great video btw Very Happy


Wow. I wonder if they will ever do a paid DLC. I think they deserve it at this point.

they probably don't need to, I imagine at this point NMS is doing great financially. i admit its nice to have some kind of success story here instead of the usual developers just move on to next title after shitting out some lazy DLC content.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2021 10:06    Post subject:
I never got into NMS, and after playing and finishing Subnautica, NMS seems clunky and boring. But I cannot remember which update of NMS I tried, maybe its better now.


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2021 10:25    Post subject:
Have fleets been fleshed out a bit more now? Last time I tried it, I did like it, was good fun for 20hrs or so, base building and fleets were a nice addition but still too shallow to stay interesting for a longer time.


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2021 10:45    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
Have fleets been fleshed out a bit more now? Last time I tried it, I did like it, was good fun for 20hrs or so, base building and fleets were a nice addition but still too shallow to stay interesting for a longer time.

If you're looking for mechanical depth here, last i played it wasn't a thing (two updates ago). NMS is more of a greater than the sum of all its parts kind of game and it's not much for the technical/mechanical side of things.

I liked NMS when i first played it because i didn't care about the controversy and didnt have wild expectations put on it.. but even with all the new features added, I wouldn't expect people to magically glue to it. it's still a procedural exploration game which is repetitive by design.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2021 12:47    Post subject:
jermore wrote:

they probably don't need to, I imagine at this point NMS is doing great financially.


5 years after the release i doubt it's selling that much..

its far better than other similar games imo... i tend to think i'm a person who likes survival sims but tbh this is the only one i've gotten into (well, apart from Rimworld).

Repeative, sure, but so is every other game, in one way or the other, this is not really better or worse. I guess it all comes down to if you gel with that type of repetition or not.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2021 13:25    Post subject:
Is there more things to fight now than the various drones?
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2021 13:34    Post subject:
Some more agressive animals / aliens.. The fighting is the worst part, i hope you get to fight NPC's (human-like aliens) in this next expansion. There needs to be some populated bandit camps etc.
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