Duke Nukem Forever (Gearbox revival)
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TheZor
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 18:19    Post subject:
garus wrote:
What is accepted?


(Doing something for money that isn't 100% of the time what you love Wink)
Working soul-crushing (regardless of their actual difficulty) jobs that have no purpose Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 18:53    Post subject:
The original Call of Duty actually had the type of passion you guys mention here. The devs said this:

"The project was actually named 'MOH killer' until an official name could be found," Thomas said. "We were focused more on fun than success, with the idea that if it was fun, it would be successful. We were just going to make a great game, and do the things better than we did on previous projects. The great thing is that a team learns from previous projects."

Warren Spector also said this about Deus Ex:

"It was the game i was gonna make somehow, someway, sometime and nobody was damn well gonna stop me. I didn't care if it sold three copies."


Bad ass. The best projects come out of this mindset
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 19:00    Post subject:
Just finished with the Lady Killer(made it to the ground floor). Took me about an hour to legit finish the level. Most of it is possible without noclip. Lived through few moments from the trailer !!!
This first section is not too bad. Modders can fix this for sure. Randy and George said there is nothing here ?! Fuck them. There is enough and we don't even have the last iteration of "2001" build


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 19:14    Post subject:
Yeah, it's pretty tantalizing to finally get our hands on this, vibes from the Doom 3 Alpha ! No wonder they never finished it though, feels like they couldn't finish anything at all playing this Laughing There are glimpses of something that could have been at least very good in 2001 standards.
Also getting some nasty polygon explosions too frequently to be really enjoying it


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 22:19    Post subject:
haha there are so many maps. Sure, very unfinished and ideas drafts but no wonder they never finished it. The game is huge. So many ideas.
And all the scenes from that trailer are included. Some as happening during normal level but also special scenes created as maps. So the whole trailer can be redone in 4k Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 22:30    Post subject:
Quote:
THE TRUTH ABOUT DNF
MAY 10
WRITTEN BY SCOTT MILLER, APOGEE (FOUNDER)
Looks like someone leaked a build of Duke Nukem Forever from 2001. Anyone expecting much of a playable game will be disappointed. The game's brilliant trailer from that period definitely over-represented what was actually playable in the game.

(BTW, I have no idea who leaked the build or how they obtained it.)

DNF is the game that destroyed 3D Realms and ended up getting the company sold to an investor in Denmark (where it's still based). While our games like Max Payne and Prey were keeping the company afloat, DNF was a constant money pit for the company and eventually killed the original 3D Realms/Apogee.

IMO, while I was not part of the DNF project, as a company owner I had some good insight into the issues with the game's development.

We were always understaffed by at least 50%.

We did not have a good development roadmap (at least, I never once saw one), and instead the project was adlibbed too much.

Because of the game's slow development, when new 3D technology became available, the project--in effect--rebooted to make use of the newest tech causing massive delays over and over.

I recognized that DNF was in deep trouble back in 2004 and tried to get the entire game developed by a more experienced studio, Digital Extremes (now famous for Warframe). The owner there was eager to take over DNF from us, and we even had the blessing of our publisher at the time (Take-Two), but this idea was shot down internally. It turned out to be a fatal suicide shot.

In the end we worked out a deal to somehow barely save the project with Gearbox Software, and basically handed over the future of the Duke brand to them with the idea that they'd finish the game. A year or so later, it was released.

It's a very sad story no matter how you look at it. It brought 3D Realms to its knees, all of our development team left or was released, and the 3D Realms name is now owned by someone with no connection to our past.

I do hope that Gearbox can resurrect Duke Nukem at some point. It seems like the obvious move would be to recreate Duke Nukem 3D using Unreal 5. And if it does well, then start making more Duke adventures while also expanding the universe with new characters.


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 22:51    Post subject:
What engine were they using for this leaked version? I don't recall. I'll never forget that PCGamer magazine issue hyping the shit out of it, looked amazing.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 23:02    Post subject:
The file structure looks like a version of the Unreal engine?

Hopefully the community will flesh this out into a playable game.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 23:12    Post subject:
MishkiN wrote:
The file structure looks like a version of the Unreal engine?

Hopefully the community will flesh this out into a playable game.


Yeah UE, the initial popup when you launch the game is also that classic old Deus Ex style 'pick your renderer'
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2022 03:15    Post subject:
Judging from the various footage/info the game had quite a few neat systems in place (even a pseudo-upgrade system) and a remarkable interactivity, as well as the crisp gritty visuals and tight controls typical of the classic Unreal. I didn't completely hate the gimped Duke that we got despite the heavy consolization, technical obsolescence and the many many many questionable decisions, but still. Truly one of the biggest what could have been(tm) Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2022 15:10    Post subject:
Also don't forget halflife released in 1998 or something

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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2022 17:19    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2022 17:58    Post subject:
garus wrote:

But I'm a grown man, I no longer believe in fairy tales Laughing
Lots of grown men also believe and love the bible tho Laughing Surprised
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2022 19:44    Post subject:
garus wrote:
TheZor wrote:
garus wrote:
What is accepted?


(Doing something for money that isn't 100% of the time what you love Wink)
Working soul-crushing (regardless of their actual difficulty) jobs that have no purpose Razz

What's there to not accept? 100% of people can't love what they do 100% of the time Very Happy And they need money. We'd need to abolish the whole structure of our society and create an utopia.

But I'm a grown man, I no longer believe in fairy tales Laughing


Neither do I, but I still get angry about it (imo, we could afford this utopia if we tried, but it's not going to happen Laughing) from time to time Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2022 19:55    Post subject:
Utopia would only work until the first building needed to be built and it needs roofing, and garbage collection, and the toilet fixed when it gets backed up with shit.
I NEVER met a roofer out of dozens of them, that wanted to do that.
Then either:
If we go with everyone does what they love, no one would be around to do those things.
Or if we all pay them very well for it, the petty people with 'better' jobs would complain roofers make as much as they do (which they SHOULD get more actually..roofing SUCKS) but pecking order of humans going to be pecked at..you know.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th May 2022 23:14    Post subject:


May the NFOrce be with you always.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Jun 2022 20:48    Post subject:
DNF2001 Restoration Project Mod


"The DNF2001 Restoration Project was created roughly a day or two after the initial leaks by x0r_jmp. While starting off small, it quickly blossomed into an organized team the size of a small studio; boasting over 100 members in various positions at peak.

Current progress has been focused on finishing the polish for the first chapter of the game, 'Lady Killer' and working on a plethora of render and engine fixes alike; with many major and small fixes already developed, such as a proper 'hair fix' and progress on an entirely new renderer for the game in DirectX 9."

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dnf2001-restoration-project
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jun 2022 11:17    Post subject:
qqq wrote:
DNF2001 Restoration Project Mod


"The DNF2001 Restoration Project was created roughly a day or two after the initial leaks by x0r_jmp. While starting off small, it quickly blossomed into an organized team the size of a small studio; boasting over 100 members in various positions at peak.

Current progress has been focused on finishing the polish for the first chapter of the game, 'Lady Killer' and working on a plethora of render and engine fixes alike; with many major and small fixes already developed, such as a proper 'hair fix' and progress on an entirely new renderer for the game in DirectX 9."

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dnf2001-restoration-project


nice, thanks for the info. Fingers xd they will finish it in a reasonable time.
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jun 2022 15:12    Post subject:
Honestly. Great marketing. If I were boussard I would exploit the hell out of this. Leak script. Leak concepts. Leak level designs. Let the fans finish the game. Give blessing. Gearbox might c&d it but it'll look bad on them. Heck if I were gearbox I'd let them finish it, then pay them a small fee for finishing it, and find a way to monetize it and release it on steam or epic. Heck get JJ to add more lines here and there. There's a lot of potential. A lot of good faith pr to be had as well.


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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jun 2022 15:48    Post subject:
This was clearly intentional (leak). Nowdays every game comes out with a lot to be desired (EarlyAccess) so this was the perfect time to release it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jun 2022 16:09    Post subject:
qqq wrote:
DNF2001 Restoration Project Mod


"The DNF2001 Restoration Project was created roughly a day or two after the initial leaks by x0r_jmp. While starting off small, it quickly blossomed into an organized team the size of a small studio; boasting over 100 members in various positions at peak.

Current progress has been focused on finishing the polish for the first chapter of the game, 'Lady Killer' and working on a plethora of render and engine fixes alike; with many major and small fixes already developed, such as a proper 'hair fix' and progress on an entirely new renderer for the game in DirectX 9."

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dnf2001-restoration-project


But at the end of the day if they don't have any of the original developers directing the project, it'll just be some loose fan game which has very little to do with the game it was supposed to be at the time.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Dec 2022 17:41    Post subject:
It's coming on 21st December! That's some impressive turnaround

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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Dec 2022 18:41    Post subject:
Yikes, that is one rough trailer. Plus whoever is voicing Duke Nukem sounds off, and Dr. Proton. Don't even get me started. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 02:32    Post subject:
Well good thing its a mod you can play for free
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 15:11    Post subject:
Looks great all things considered
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 16:54    Post subject:
W123 wrote:
Well good thing its a mod you can play for free

The fuck makes it a good thing if it’s free? Something is either good or bad or inbetween, regardless of price. You one of them “its furreeey so you don’t have the legal right to complain” clowns? Next you’ll be asking them to do better on their own or stfu.
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 17:07    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
W123 wrote:
Well good thing its a mod you can play for free

The fuck makes it a good thing if it’s free? Something is either good or bad or inbetween, regardless of price. You one of them “its furreeey so you don’t have the legal right to complain” clowns? Next you’ll be asking them to do better on their own or stfu.


yeah, i totally dont get this like: hey literal shit 50 dollar "fuck no, go to hell"
free " giveme, mouths wide open"

The same with: only one dev made it. Who cares?
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 17:27    Post subject:
Or the ultimate retard response: “Can you do better? No? So shut the fuck up” Laughing Laughing Laughing
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