Our great American Health care system
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 16:50    Post subject: Our great American Health care system
Looks like I might be going broke Sad unless we can find an alternative.
Whoever even vaguely defends the US's form of healthcare as: The best at freedom loving healthcare that ever freedom'd.
Should get complimentary clown makeup with their insurance coverage.

My health insurance from work is one of the better ones my company could find. Since we are a small(ish) company and my boss and CEO are actually pretty damn good people, they spend a LOT of time trying to find the best options for healthcare.

But despite paying $350 a month out of my pocket for that to cover 3 people, plus overlapping coverage from my wife's job. My daughters new medicine is...$1000. ONE THOUSAND dollars for a month supply. Thats AFTER insurance covers $1000 of it..its $2000 total!

What the everloving fuck.
Who are these people that have the cash to throw $1000 a month at a bottle of pills?? Who are the people OK with having to do that is a better question!


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Bendi




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 16:54    Post subject:
Is that at least medicine for some extremely rare disease? Those can be expensive even in civilised countries.


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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 17:01    Post subject:
@Bendi
No its meds for her anxiety, PTSD, and situational manic-depression cycle if put in a situation to trigger it from a traumatic incident in high school. (I wouldn't mind saying what it was if it was me, but not my call it's hers. And doubt she wants me spilling beans to strangers on the internet, you know?)

It's not even 'heavy end' of the type of meds for those things. as she's "OK" but she has her moments. But any meds that are for mental problems are expensive here.


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 17:04    Post subject:
Damn.
Importing it from other countries is probably illegal/impossible without a referal/recipe... right?


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 17:06    Post subject:
Medications for mental health issues (for specific disorders), including PTSD, are expensive here in my EU country too. The taxpayer healthcare system does not cover it oftentimes. So people sign up for donation pages, or scrap money together with the help of family and friends for as long as possible.

The key with them is: if their user base is not big enough and/or there is no concrete evidence they are working 100% of the time, they don't get approved by health board for the state system.
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 17:11    Post subject:
@tonizito
Yea. Usually its outright illegal unless you have a specific drug that is already approved for it:
The federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) generally maintains that importing prescription drugs into the US by anyone other than the manufacturer is a violation of federal law.

I get R&D recoup and lifespan of drug (replaced/obsolete by newer one) needs to be accounted for for pricing.
But $66 a pill (30 pills for $2000) is making a money printing machine I think. Who can afford $66 a day for meds, much less $66 a day for just one med.

its stupid. Its what was the major factor in why my dad passed. He had to ration his blood pressure meds and diabetes meds for 'really bad days' since in the US insulin and Lisin(something) for his blood pressure, was crazy expensive if you needed it everyday.


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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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iconized




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 17:16    Post subject:
Pills are only a bandage. Your daughter should seek a therapist.
EMDR therapy.
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 17:25    Post subject:
She has one, shes goes to both a psychologist and a psychologist once a month. Since one is for helping with your physical brain chemistry (medications) the other is to help with your mental struggles.

She's working through it. Just takes time. The meds are to help until she can come to terms with it, and move past/manage it on her own, plus she had some slight quarks (for lack of a less vague term, like father like daughter...lol) to start with so the incident didn't help at all.

She deals with them pretty well overall i'd say. Being my daughter and learning/understanding how I deal with mine (not same thing as her, but general 'I need to be mindful I am wired wrong' shit) and feeling OK to talk to me about she's learned some coping mechanisms that work for her. But when certain situations hit or wires get jumbled, no amount of empathetic and kind words of "We need to help you move past it" helps.


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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 17:26    Post subject:
Ya that stuffs free here, I would never live there/move if I did. It's one year of pain, then you and family will better off on just about all fronts. Healthcare, taxes, not randomly getting shot, the education.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 17:44    Post subject:
iconized wrote:
Pills are only a bandage. Your daughter should seek a therapist.
EMDR therapy.


Good advice. EMDR works. Though it takes some time. My sister works with that technique and has had some really good results.


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Reg67




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 18:00    Post subject:
Bendi wrote:
Is that at least medicine for some extremely rare disease? Those can be expensive even in civilised countries.


He is not in a civilised country, I mean look at their heeathcare, social care, gun laws etc etc, it's a fucking shithole country as one of its orange presidents once said.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 18:15    Post subject:
You pay taxes so you can fund wars that benefit your oligarchs, not you.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 19:43    Post subject:
After living here for a bit and reading news etc, i can safely say this is a great country to make money and to lose it when its your turn. Everything is set for politicians and their related companies to make bank on everyone else, regardless of what the public needs/wants. Make money and dont go too far so we can fucking steal it all back with time, we just need time.

Fuck everyone who votes in this country, they make a huge deal of stupid SHIT like guns, lgbt, some cunts email, some idiots drug addiction, but no problem with every fucking politician voting against the well being of public, with pedophile politicians all around, NO fucking issue with anything of importance of the whole country. A capitol was invaded because of a retarded president's hissy fit.

But no protest against low wages, brutal housing market, abusive price gouging, criminal healthcare. No protest, maaaan this is fucking retarded.

In your case, hope the best, hope theres some help program or something. Im gonna keep my dominican passwort and papers up to date, any health problems i get ill travel to DR, fuck this.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 20:02    Post subject:
Reg67 wrote:
Bendi wrote:
Is that at least medicine for some extremely rare disease? Those can be expensive even in civilised countries.


He is not in a civilised country, I mean look at their heeathcare, social care, gun laws etc etc, it's a fucking shithole country as one of its orange presidents once said.


That's why I wrote "even in civilised countries". We know dumbfuckistan is not.

Maybe I should've added "with a working healthcare system" for clarity Very Happy
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 20:13    Post subject:
@couleur EMDR is one of the ones her new therapist is wanting to try with her.
Told her to read up on it, and make a decision for herself, and let me know if she wants my input/help on finding info on it. As what I might think of its validity, and her may be different (either for/against). I think anything that helps you helps you for mental exercises..regardless of what anyone thinks of its usefulness. And not my place to decide what does or doesn't work for her.

Lopin18 wrote:
But no protest against low wages, brutal housing market, abusive price gouging, criminal healthcare. No protest, maaaan this is fucking retarded.

In your case, hope the best, hope there's some help program or something.

Thanks, we are looking around, as that is the only option for medication she has. Well that doesnt have HUGE possible side effects or the problems it makes are worse than the cure.

Guess that's why it's $2000. Its not how much is it worth to profit, its the USA thing of what is the max ridiculous profit can we make per pill, since we got the best pill?

(Side rant from topic, but in response to agree with Lopin)
As for the others you mention in the first line. It IS an uphill battle to get important issues looked into.
Any community meetings, city council meetings, or open forum Q&A city board member gatherings I go to to support those things by vote or voice, 80% of the people are there yelling and foaming at the mouth about the other things you mentioned in your post.
Last one I went to one lady spent 25 fucknig minutes of the hour meeting about homelessness issue in my side of town....not discussing opinions and ways the city can attribute funds responsivity and effectively to help them. She was there wanting laws passed about homeless people's dogs shitting in her yard. (IT happened TWICE in a month she claims...the horror).

Two (or three) district school meetings ago. A guy took up 15 minutes ranting about he don't want his son seeing 'fags' at his school. That high school is a time to fondly remember. Of doing 'teenage things' (I guess being gay isnt a thing some teens do).
Didnt talk about our shit ass education level, lack of school funding, how some schools are so old and outdated that overhead projectors (the ones you put clear sheets on to blow up) are 'high tech' to it.
No no no, let's worry about if you son is offended by who other people find attractive..thats useful use of the time we have..which I think ironically points out we need to talk about our shit ass education level.


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 20:34    Post subject:
Here in Norway most is cheap, but you might die in queue if you're seriously ill.. So there is that
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 20:42    Post subject:
Same here really for wait times, but not sure if as bad.

Took 6 months to get her into see someone.
For me made an appointment for a neurologist in february (having random brain fog and memory issues last year or so) and haven't seen them once yet. As my appt made in february is for May 3rd.


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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

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Lopin18




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Apr 2023 23:00    Post subject:
Thats another thing, people say, AHHH IN CANADA you must queue up for months, its free but its a long wait.

Well fucking-a, i have to wait here too, not that long but i still had to wait 1 month to get some stupid ultrasound. Imagine prefering going into 20k in debt to get instant help vs planning ahead and paying almost nothing. Dont know, im pretty sure (or i hope) that if its a life threatning issue you get quick access and no debt in canada.

Sigh, tough days, these days in the US i feel like we are surrounded by idiots and lead by rats.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 00:23    Post subject:
I’ve heard of people near borders with neighboring counties traveling there to buy medications for much, much cheaper. Canada, Mexico, etc. Since you are in Florida, perhaps you can visit the great health care system in Cuba, and listen to great music while you are at it. Very Happy You really do live in a retarded country, I have to say.

Lopin18 wrote:
AHHH IN CANADA you must queue up for months, its free but its a long wait.

That’s the dumbest argument people come up with. Every country has a private healthcare option, if you can afford it, that cuts lines and you get an appointment from today to tomorrow or the day after. Rolling Eyes
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 00:37    Post subject:
As if i'm gonna pay trough my teeth for private healthcare when i pay large amounts of taxes for having the healthcare we have Laughing
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Rage




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 12:10    Post subject:
Have you considered just.. moving to western europe? It comes with the added benefit of not living in a goddamn hollywood action movie all the time.

Swear to fuck, reading up on what you 'muricans live through, adhd genderfluid society, school shootings & private healthcare makes me wonder why you don't just.. leave?

You know what i pay for healthcare? Nothing, it's a 10% income tax, and i get all the free healthcare i need. You know when's the last time i've heard of a school shooting? Never. I've never even met a trannie. I've met like 2 gay people in my entire 30+ life. Just move dude. There's plenty of civilized countries to move to.


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Yuri




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 13:27    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
As if i'm gonna pay trough my teeth for private healthcare when i pay large amounts of taxes for having the healthcare we have Laughing

That's the point of the taxes, isn't it. So that you don't pay an even more obscene amount for private healthcare Laughing



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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 20:29    Post subject: Re: Our great American Health care system
DXWarlock wrote:
Looks like I might be going broke Sad unless we can find an alternative.
Whoever even vaguely defends the US's form of healthcare as: The best at freedom loving healthcare that ever freedom'd.
Should get complimentary clown makeup with their insurance coverage.

My health insurance from work is one of the better ones my company could find. Since we are a small(ish) company and my boss and CEO are actually pretty damn good people, they spend a LOT of time trying to find the best options for healthcare.

But despite paying $350 a month out of my pocket for that to cover 3 people, plus overlapping coverage from my wife's job. My daughters new medicine is...$1000. ONE THOUSAND dollars for a month supply. Thats AFTER insurance covers $1000 of it..its $2000 total!

What the everloving fuck.
Who are these people that have the cash to throw $1000 a month at a bottle of pills?? Who are the people OK with having to do that is a better question!



if i had your problems...
obviously you haven't encountered with the Bulgarian health system
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