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pho08




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2022 12:54    Post subject:
Well thats what they said about this one.... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2022 13:21    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
Whenever this thread gets bumped i hope for some miracle patch announcement or any sign of light at the end of the tunnel... Instead i get... Shattered hopes


Where is the Gothic 3 miracle 1gb patch they were almost done with though?
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2022 15:52    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
Whenever this thread gets bumped i hope for some miracle patch announcement or any sign of light at the end of the tunnel... Instead i get... Shattered hopes



But patch for what ? The game is very bad design wise. It's not that it has some bug needed to be fixed. The game itself is extemely bad, there's nothing you need to wait for it. Its a bad game. I'd say its the worst PB game, by a large margin
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2022 16:13    Post subject:
Everything you just said makes me sad Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2022 16:17    Post subject:
Don't be sad, be happy it happened, in the form of old Gothic(s) and Risen.


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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2022 16:17    Post subject:
I've been playing this pretty intensely for about a week and a half and performance has been flawless. About 2 days ago tho my gpu usage has gone through the roof and the cpu has started intermittently spiking too.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2023 23:38    Post subject:
I've been getting through the backlog and this was supposed to be next. Is it just me or does it run like an absolute pig? Even if I drop the resolution scale, I sometimes hit the 40s. Mental.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2023 23:40    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
I've been getting through the backlog and this was supposed to be next. Is it just me or does it run like an absolute pig? Even if I drop the resolution scale, I sometimes hit the 40s. Mental.
nvidia ruined another game! Mad


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Feb 2023 09:14    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
I've been getting through the backlog and this was supposed to be next. Is it just me or does it run like an absolute pig? Even if I drop the resolution scale, I sometimes hit the 40s. Mental.


It's totaly fine, should be stable 60. And if not just tweak some stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Feb 2023 09:48    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
I've been getting through the backlog and this was supposed to be next. Is it just me or does it run like an absolute pig? Even if I drop the resolution scale, I sometimes hit the 40s. Mental.


Try the Directx 12 version. Runs great for me but the first time you load a game it'll load it for ages. You have to opt into it under "Properties -> Betas -> elexiidx12".
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Feb 2023 09:56    Post subject:
Ah right, I did try the DX12 version initially but after 5 mins I figured it had locked up. Will try again
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Feb 2023 10:39    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
I've been getting through the backlog and this was supposed to be next. Is it just me or does it run like an absolute pig? Even if I drop the resolution scale, I sometimes hit the 40s. Mental.


I had the same experience on the 3600XT but it got alot better switching to the 5800X3D. The game is very poorly optimized. Might be the worst PB game yet in terms of optimization. G3 was a mess too.


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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Feb 2023 10:12    Post subject:
DX12 made it around 90FPS average @ 1440p on a laptop so I'm pretty happy with that

It looks so similar to the first one, the performance hit doesn't feel justified
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2024 11:24    Post subject:
https://www.reddit.com/r/elex/s/tTEecgupyg

PB may shut down

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WIKI6 was (most likely) Elex 3. The project has been removed from the german govermant funding / support page. Sum of funding was ~3 Million Euro.

https://www.bmwk.de/Navigation/DE/Service/Games-Projekte/games-projekte.html

PB Homepage is semi-down.

https://www.piranha-bytes.com/

No youtube videos on the officiall PB Channel since November

Channel was fairly active before

Embracer / THQ Nordic is shutting down studios left and right

Further "sources" / speculation threads and posts:

https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1618146-Wie-steht-es-um-PB

https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/piranha-bytes-sorge-um-gothic-und-elex-entwickler,3406891.html
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2024 15:12    Post subject:
Another point of view, with some explanation:

https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/piranha-bytes-has-fans-worried-disturbing-silence-at-the-creators/z7678b

"The only real disturbing fact is the lack of updates to the YouTube channel. However, the studio's official profile on X (formerly Twitter) continues to post new content. Moreover, judging by LinkedIn, the number of Piranha Bytes staff has not changed significantly in recent months, so there's no reason to assume that mass layoffs in the Embracer group will also affect this studio."


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2024 16:17    Post subject:
On the one hand, PB's trajectory has always been extremely rollercoaster-like both in terms of quality and sales (with ELEX 2 belonging to the convex part), on the other hand, it would be pretty sad to see them go.

Although their decision-making isn't stellar and they have the silly tendency to discard good ideas in favour of clumsy ones, after the glorious Gothic 1/2 golden era they've still managed to release some genuinely good titles in my opinion (Risen 1, ELEX 1) while keeping the ol' Piranha formula alive despite everyone else going for different frameworks. They're dinosaurs, and I like dinosaurs.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2024 16:29    Post subject:
It will be a sad day when UBIslop AAA clones continue to smear the market while goofy but enjoyable PB stuff ceases to exist Crying or Very sad
The Elex 2 protagonist diarrhea farting himself every 2 minutes just added that je ne sai quois to the game Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2024 18:32    Post subject:
I loved almost all PB games.

Gothics 1-3 all great. (Even 3 goddamit)
Risen 1 and 3
Both ELEX games (first was better ofc)

Always made sure to buy the mall. Bought some of them even multiple times. Hope they live.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2024 20:02    Post subject:
Ah, nope, seems they're dead:

https://www.gamespodcast.de/2024/01/17/magazin-spezial-piranha-bytes-droht-die-schliessung/

From steam Elex 2 page:

"Those guys are ex-Gamestar journalists and they have talked to multiple (anonymous) inside sources at PB and THQ Nordic etc.

Things that have been confirmed according to the podcast and other sources:

- Piranha Bytes received notice that Embracer want to sell the studio in November.
- Pankratz left the studio that same month, also because of creative differences and differences regarding the future direction of the studio. He is apparently out for good and would not return, even if future funding could be secured.
- The employees of PB did not receive their pink slips at first as Embracer/THQ Nordic were evaluating a sale of the entire studio plus the ELEX IP
- Embracer (not too surprisingly) had no immediate success in finding a buyer and so they sent out the pink slips in December. Germany is not a hire & fire country. The termination of the contract depends on how long someone has been with a company. The long time members of PB would probably get paid until about mid 2024. Newer members would lose their jobs much sooner and are likely looking for work as we speak.
- There is a faint glimmer of hope because a new project codenamed "Currywurst" (curry sausage in English... it's a sausage with curry flavored toppings and it is a very popular German meal) has appeared on the BMWK website of funded gaming projects.

So, yep, things are not looking too good. Even if PB were to survive somehow, it would not be the same studio anymore as key members have left the gig (actually the PB of the 2010s and 2020s was already no longer the same company that gave us the Gothics but that would be a looong story for another day Wink )."


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2024 20:05    Post subject:
Crying or Very sad


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2024 20:11    Post subject:
Next game from newPB: GAAS shooter with microtransactions and a monthly subscription.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2024 21:46    Post subject:
Ah, dammit. Embracer have been dispensing coup de graces for months now, what a mess that turned out to be after the infamous $2 billion deal with the Saudis fell through. I hope PB can miraculously survive this, possibly without losing all their dignity.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2024 21:54    Post subject:
Elex 2 probably flopped, so that didn't help.

And PB is dead, Pankratz was the last of the old guard. "Creative differences" probably mean Embracer wants them to take a more mainstream approach.

I wonder what will happen with the remake of Gothic 1. I know it's not PB related, except for having KaiRo do the music, but with the recent closures a new studio might also not survive.


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jan 2024 22:05    Post subject:
Sad

ImmOO they should have stuck to medieval RPGs (Gothic type)

I liked all of their games as well, but they seem to have lost their touch after the first Risen
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jan 2024 12:25    Post subject:
i guess not even germans can survive forever on early 00s fame , then mostly flop and somehow survive on governemnt grants for two decades


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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jan 2024 15:56    Post subject:
FROM is the new PB for me. ELEX 1 was decent, but when you start comparing Elex or Risen to something like Elden Ring, nah, i'm fine thx Laughing
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pho08




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jan 2024 19:44    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
i guess not even germans can survive forever on early 00s fame , then mostly flop and somehow survive on governemnt grants for two decades

i second that. it is sad to see another german studio go down the shitter but this has been a long time coming with PB (if it is in fact the case)
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2024 20:11    Post subject:
Sad.. good night sweet prince. Too bad they made so much mediocre garbage in between the gems. They had a tough time in trying to modernize their games to increase sales while also not alienating their core fans. They tried at least. Elex was fun. Didn't try the sequel though.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2024 23:23    Post subject:
W123 wrote:
Sad.. good night sweet prince. Too bad they made so much mediocre garbage in between the gems. They had a tough time in trying to modernize their games to increase sales while also not alienating their core fans. They tried at least. Elex was fun. Didn't try the sequel though.
I'd say the only thing the sequel has over the original is the fantastic jetpack.
The retards from bethesda could learn a thing or two from having such a fun way to move around but I guess "the astronauts that went to the moon didn't have jetpacks lol wut"


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2024 00:27    Post subject:
I loved the jetpack in Elex1 tbh. Great way to add another dimension to exploration.
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