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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Thu, 30th May 2024 17:05 Post subject: |
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finished the dlc too, fits very nicely into the whole game adding some more insight into jins childhood. not that lengthy though even if u do mostly everything
i think it dosent matter if u play this before or after the main story, i think the cutscenes adjusts the dialogue based on where u are in the main game, people say dlc is harder and while true thats mostly because of the new enemy but u do kill them fast so it dosent matter.
cant wait for the sequel
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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| Posted: Thu, 30th May 2024 20:41 Post subject: |
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Some environments are like a beautiful stylized(!) tapestry while others... are kinda sterile, empty...
Also, the game is dark! Almost 'can't see shit' dark sometimes.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2215430/discussions/0/7093810789006974020/
Can't say it's my favorite art-style but it seems to have plenty of good reasons to be considered a 'wab'.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Thu, 30th May 2024 21:34 Post subject: |
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| blackeyedboy wrote: | | Also, the game is dark! Almost 'can't see shit' dark sometimes. |
A simple solution for the excessive contrast/dark shadows could be Reshade's LiftGammaGain, specifically by raising 'RGB Lift' until you hit your monitor's sweet spot. I haven't snagged the iso yet (*soon*) but usually it's the first thing that I change when games need some basic tuning. My monitor doesn't properly support HDR so typically I need more contrast instead or at least some equivalent ghetto tricks for the washed-up colours  |
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 02:45 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 11:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 11:12 Post subject: |
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I mean just for that part and back to normal. Im assuming the waves were overlooked for whatever heck reason
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 11:21 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 12:26 Post subject: |
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I play at 30 fps and the waves are still desynched. Pissed me off so much. But seems like that place is the only one with them so I wonder if the bug wasn't found during development, they can't fix it and decided to leave that quest without using the waves again. Or are they bugged only on PC?
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 12:40 Post subject: |
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Finished as well, and doing the DLC now.
The music at the end was one of the highlights in the game. When it goes into crescendo after the haiku, goddamn.
Good ending too, which is a rare thing these days.
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I chose to kill the uncle, btw, as it made the most sense.
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The numbers don't decide, the system is a lie. The river running dry, the wings of butterflies.
And you may pour us away like soup. Like we're pretty broken flowers.
We'll take back what is ours. One day at a time.
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 16:32 Post subject: |
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no it dosent make the most sense, and their canon ending for the sequel is the other one so...
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Jun 2024 12:52 Post subject: |
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It absolutely does, although there is obviously no right choice and there are arguments for both.
But keeping him alive, a 'slave to honor', would be the greater insult. Not to mention the repercussions with the shogun. I take it you've seen Shogun, the tv-show? Death is a daily part of life in feudal Japan and often welcomed and even the preferred choice.
| Quote: | | I will die on the hill that, narratively, killing him is the better choice. If Lord Shimura returns to the shogun without the ghosts head, the shogun would make an example of him. His name would be disgraced and that would have hurt Shimura more than death. Jin doesn’t want to hurt him that way, so killing him would bring shimura happiness and pride. Jin then gives one last gift to his uncle through an honorable death. But Jin doesn’t see it as honorable, giving the “You have no honor” “And you are a slave to it” much more meaning and dramatic irony. Jin has no honor because he kills a family member, but Shimura is a slave to honor so he begs Jin to do it. Either way, Jin looses, but this is the only ending where Shimura can “win.” It plays to Jin’s character as someone willing to do and sacrifice anything for the people he loves, as well as into the theme of the horror of war and the loose loose situation you find yourself in when someone attacks your home. You either die a hero or live long enough to become the bigger villain. It was a beautiful ending. The spare ending feels hollow in comparison and makes Jin feel more selfish in my opinion. |
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This. This perfectly captures the tragic irony behind killing Shimura instead of sparing him. It's an uncomfortable compromise, but I also find killing him is the more compassionate option for this exact reason – that the suffering inflicted upon him and his reputation by the shogun when he fails to return with Jin's head is best relieved dying by the Ghost's sword. When I made the decision, I viewed it as "To Shimura, this is honour for a samurai. To Jin, this is the compassion that samurai are not known for, because he is no longer a samurai." Two sides of the same coin – a lose-lose, but also a win-win, because each is aligned with the neither-right-nor-wrong philosophy of the character.
Both endings and their justifications were written beautifully. I would hope that for the sequel, the developers give an option of what ending precedes the story. I would stick by my decision to kill Shimura and would love to see how Jin has to survive in a world where his uncle's/"father's" legacy is revered and he is forever on the run. That said, being on the run in a world where Shimura has been a 'disgrace' to the shogun sounds pretty awesome too. |
This conversation convinced me (from reddit) 
The numbers don't decide, the system is a lie. The river running dry, the wings of butterflies.
And you may pour us away like soup. Like we're pretty broken flowers.
We'll take back what is ours. One day at a time.
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Jun 2024 13:54 Post subject: |
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yes ive seen shogun, the one that makes the most sense for jin i still think its the other ending, "i have no honor and i will not kill my family" vs the uncle who was ready to kill him, is character growth, "honor died on the beach", killing shimura means giving him an honor death which reverts that character growth. stupid samurai tradition as it was shown in shogun by blackthorne , no wonder the mongols used them like that. i liked that the enemy was smart and not just big and stupid. and i liked how seeing the show before and just recently made me understand the game even more
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Jun 2024 14:34 Post subject: |
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Yeah, agree with you on all points. Great game!
The numbers don't decide, the system is a lie. The river running dry, the wings of butterflies.
And you may pour us away like soup. Like we're pretty broken flowers.
We'll take back what is ours. One day at a time.
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Jun 2024 16:51 Post subject: |
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My pre-order got refunded ..\\ I guess Sony just doesn't want my money.. *launching QBittorrent* 
1) Lenovo Legion 7 (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H, RTX 3080 16Gb, 32Gb DDR4, SSD 1TB +2TB
2) SFFPC (streaming via Moonlight+ Sunshine)
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Jun 2024 17:28 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | when playing at high frame rates. |
Lucky me, I'm not affected, then.
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Jun 2024 19:40 Post subject: |
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Yeah, seems like hotfix works. Since hotfix I had no single problem with bugged standoff.
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Hey dont be so hard the little console eunuchs, they need time to aim their lil vibratin thumbstick.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Jun 2024 04:37 Post subject: |
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| Il_Padrino wrote: | It absolutely does, although there is obviously no right choice and there are arguments for both.
But keeping him alive, a 'slave to honor', would be the greater insult. Not to mention the repercussions with the shogun. I take it you've seen Shogun, the tv-show? Death is a daily part of life in feudal Japan and often welcomed and even the preferred choice.
| Quote: | | I will die on the hill that, narratively, killing him is the better choice. If Lord Shimura returns to the shogun without the ghosts head, the shogun would make an example of him. His name would be disgraced and that would have hurt Shimura more than death. Jin doesn’t want to hurt him that way, so killing him would bring shimura happiness and pride. Jin then gives one last gift to his uncle through an honorable death. But Jin doesn’t see it as honorable, giving the “You have no honor” “And you are a slave to it” much more meaning and dramatic irony. Jin has no honor because he kills a family member, but Shimura is a slave to honor so he begs Jin to do it. Either way, Jin looses, but this is the only ending where Shimura can “win.” It plays to Jin’s character as someone willing to do and sacrifice anything for the people he loves, as well as into the theme of the horror of war and the loose loose situation you find yourself in when someone attacks your home. You either die a hero or live long enough to become the bigger villain. It was a beautiful ending. The spare ending feels hollow in comparison and makes Jin feel more selfish in my opinion. |
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This. This perfectly captures the tragic irony behind killing Shimura instead of sparing him. It's an uncomfortable compromise, but I also find killing him is the more compassionate option for this exact reason – that the suffering inflicted upon him and his reputation by the shogun when he fails to return with Jin's head is best relieved dying by the Ghost's sword. When I made the decision, I viewed it as "To Shimura, this is honour for a samurai. To Jin, this is the compassion that samurai are not known for, because he is no longer a samurai." Two sides of the same coin – a lose-lose, but also a win-win, because each is aligned with the neither-right-nor-wrong philosophy of the character.
Both endings and their justifications were written beautifully. I would hope that for the sequel, the developers give an option of what ending precedes the story. I would stick by my decision to kill Shimura and would love to see how Jin has to survive in a world where his uncle's/"father's" legacy is revered and he is forever on the run. That said, being on the run in a world where Shimura has been a 'disgrace' to the shogun sounds pretty awesome too. |
This conversation convinced me (from reddit) |
I rewatched the ending after this post and forgot how well done it was overall-visually, acting performance, dialogue and music.. just really satisfying. It's too bad i wasn't really moved by any of the other characters/relationships in the game, just the Jin-Shimua dynamic/conflict.
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Finally starting this game!
Hopefully with so many patches later stuff is a lot better.
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