The director got banned from the Alien subreddit for impersonating himself. They lifted the ban when they realized it was actually him but still kind of funny.
Even the abysmal shit that was Covenant and Premetheus are 6.4 and 7
They are way, way better though, and i really enjoyed both of them, even rewatched them once I think their scores are alright. Weak 7 is about right, it's what i'd give Alien 4 too, i'd rank Alien 3 a bit higher. And sure i rate these movies higher than most people perhaps, its my favorite genre.
Romulus is one of the worst space horrors i've seen, at least if i consider its budget, there are space horror B movies that are worse, but has like 1% of its budget so it's not too strange.
Pandorum is still the best space horror we've gotten since like forver, 8/10 for me, seen it 3 times over the years. Good characters, great setting, interesting twist, good ending, cool monsters. Romulus has 1 of these and only because it happens to be the Aliens universe. Too bad i didn't see Pandorum in the theatre (if it was shown..), i would have been blown away.
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Both were insultingly stupid character-wise IMO. Pandorum was great, agreed
Prometheus is a 7/10 and would have been higher if not for character actions, where i blame gen Z writing. i genuinely like the movie despite it being flawed, outside the obvious it's also set up where it can't give you a satisfying ending. if you met your maker what would you have it say? pretty hard to come up with satisfying ending.
Covenant for me is a 3.5/10, sure it looks nice and Fassbender gets some good scenes. When the worst / least interesting part about the movie is the xenomorph you have proper fucked up. I almost feel it was a Ridley fuck you studio sabotage effort.
Compare both to Alien writing, the characters make great calls all the way through, which even with a simple plot gets you way more invested.
Quote:
Ripley: What kind of thing. I need a clear definition.
Dallas: An organism. Open the hatch.
Ripley: Wait a minute. If we let it in the ship could be infected. You know quarantine procedure. 24 hours for decontamination.
Dallas: He could die in 24 hours. Open the hatch.
Ripley: Listen to me. If we break quarantine, we could all die.
Lambert: Would you open the goddamn hatch? We have to get him inside!
Ripley: No, I can't do that, and if you were in my position, you'd do the same. (Alien)
then Ash opens the door (because he has a secret mission that's not spelt out but eluded to). You never feel any characters do dumb things.
Gen tardz starts in 1997 while Retardetheus came out in 2012, but was in production for several years. I don’t think a 10 year old wrote it, even if we might like to think so. Contrary to popular belief, there were dumb writers and even dumber scripts before gen tardz.
well yeah I guess so, I looked up the Prometheus writers. One was a former Lost and Nu-StarTrek writer, the other had a single 4.9/10 movie to his name when tasked with writing Prometheus. Covenant still has the dumber retard characters over Prometheus which were already bad, it questions parody levels from Ridley Scott.
The buck stops with Scott. No matter how retard the writers were, Scott has enough experience and creative control to be able to see how retarded the script is and stop it. He either didn’t care, or thought it was soe smartz.
It just felt like the whole thing was just a cheap setup to showcase the franchise.
"You like facehuggers? You like the xenos? You like androids? Let's just throw everything unique this franchise has in a messy hodge-podge, and write a script around it to justify it".
Would have given a higher score if it standed on it's own legs, but they just whored the entire concept out.
Worse part? It fucking works on people. When the android delivers the aweful "get away from her, bitch", some guy in the theatre shouted "FUCK YEAH!". I was just dumbfounded.
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The buck stops with Scott. No matter how retard the writers were, Scott has enough experience and creative control to be able to see how retarded the script is and stop it. He either didn’t care, or thought it was soe smartz.
Same with Napoleon. As much as I respect a lot of great movies he directed (no, not the pretentious Blade Runner), Prometheus was complete, jumbled ass.
The las duel was great - last movie I enjoyed from him.
It just felt like the whole thing was just a cheap setup to showcase the franchise.
"You like facehuggers? You like the xenos? You like androids? Let's just throw everything unique this franchise has in a messy hodge-podge, and write a script around it to justify it".
Would have given a higher score if it standed on it's own legs, but they just whored the entire concept out.
Worse part? It fucking works on people. When the android delivers the aweful "get away from her, bitch", some guy in the theatre shouted "FUCK YEAH!". I was just dumbfounded.
Because a lot of people are idiots. I have no other explanation. These are cheap fan service lines that ruin movies. Like Marvel cameos, except marvel movies were always a joke for kids.
Well, Aliens, Alien 3 were without him and were good. Resurrection, AVP and Romulus were without him and were horse manure. So I don’t think he matters that much.
It just felt like the whole thing was just a cheap setup to showcase the franchise.
"You like facehuggers? You like the xenos? You like androids? Let's just throw everything unique this franchise has in a messy hodge-podge, and write a script around it to justify it".
Would have given a higher score if it standed on it's own legs, but they just whored the entire concept out.
Worse part? It fucking works on people. When the android delivers the aweful "get away from her, bitch", some guy in the theatre shouted "FUCK YEAH!". I was just dumbfounded.
Because a lot of people are idiots. I have no other explanation. These are cheap fan service lines that ruin movies. Like Marvel cameos, except marvel movies were always a joke for kids.
This is he truth, the money comes from constant sequelpreboots that have the token elements hurr durr expects. Prometheus had some good idea's but "where's meh facehugger/xenomorph?! and get away from her line?' - so the studio ensured we got that in A:covenant garbage. I think he planned 3 movies originally, and said he planned on ditching xenomorphs and going with AI / synth storyline.
I prefer these franchises just die if you don't have a real story. Give someone the money to try be creative and original.
Even the abysmal shit that was Covenant and Premetheus are 6.4 and 7
They are way, way better though, and i really enjoyed both of them, even rewatched them once I think their scores are alright. Weak 7 is about right, it's what i'd give Alien 4 too, i'd rank Alien 3 a bit higher. And sure i rate these movies higher than most people perhaps, its my favorite genre.
Romulus is one of the worst space horrors i've seen, at least if i consider its budget, there are space horror B movies that are worse, but has like 1% of its budget so it's not too strange.
Pandorum is still the best space horror we've gotten since like forver, 8/10 for me, seen it 3 times over the years. Good characters, great setting, interesting twist, good ending, cool monsters. Romulus has 1 of these and only because it happens to be the Aliens universe. Too bad i didn't see Pandorum in the theatre (if it was shown..), i would have been blown away.
My relationship with horror movies is a very complicated one, as I find 95% of them laughable from a conceptual standpoint and every time one of their stereotypes appears I sigh internally thus losing any faux sense of tension. Teh devil, ghosts, vampires, evil little kids, over-the-top masked killers, bloody dolls (the worst one ), situations that defy physics and logic, exceptional stupidity from the characters involved, and so on. I can however appreciate those in the context of a supernatural cocktail that doesn't take itself too seriously, or in an action game/RPG when supported by competent writing.
Alien is one of the few exceptions (along with The Thing) that worked well for me and kept me entertained throughout the entire ride without ever breaking the suspension of disbelief, which is quite an achievement. Aliens was also excellent, though for different reasons as it practically belongs to a separate genre. I'll concede that the Director's Cut version of Alien 3 wasn't bad either (it's Fincher after all ), but sadly anything Hollyboo-ian that came after qualifies as miserable as far as I'm concerned.
The 4th one was directed by Jean Pierre Jeunet, that is as far as you can get from Hollywood. I remember it was a mix of the 1st one and the 2nd one, but poorly written, with some idiotic monster baby in the end?
I haven't seen that movie since about two decades ago but I remember the script being full of nonsensical decisions and ludicrous ideas. IIRC there was drama too involving the director and Whedon (for his pseudo-comedic writing style) that resulted in them pointing fingers at each other for many years like an ongoing meme
I haven't seen that movie since about two decades ago but I remember the script being full of nonsensical decisions and ludicrous ideas. IIRC there was drama too involving the director and Whedon (for his pseudo-comedic writing style) that resulted in them pointing fingers at each other for many years like an ongoing meme
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I think their scores are alright. Weak 7 is about right, it's what i'd give Alien 4 too, i'd rank Alien 3 a bit higher. And sure i rate these movies higher than most people perhaps, its my favorite genre.
well yeah I guess so, I looked up the Prometheus writers. One was a former Lost and Nu-StarTrek writer, the other had a single 4.9/10 movie to his name when tasked with writing Prometheus. Covenant still has the dumber retard characters over Prometheus which were already bad, it questions parody levels from Ridley Scott.
), but sadly anything Hollyboo-ian that came after qualifies as miserable as far as I'm concerned.
