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tonizito
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 02:25    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Well you know a battle is lost when this gets 70k players. We'll never be rid of trans monstrosities and wokeism at this rate. Consumers must consume
It will get more, just wait until the weekend is done for the real peak. I'm guessing it will peak around... 100K, maybe 150K?
But how is that not utterly laughable if compared to say, Starfield that hit ~250K on the first 24h, AYUND that one was on gamepass simultaneously?!

Even 100-150K for this is a failure, no matter what that goblin schreier or whichever narrative the gamejourno cucks try to spin on this one.


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 03:18    Post subject:
If the game is good no one will care for wekeism, other then some old farts haters, to be frank

I hate wokeism in TV as most woke show are really bad, but I also hate ppl that just hate for no reason
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 03:45    Post subject:
Transmongold Laughing



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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 04:08    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
Transmongold Laughing

Zippertits Zach Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 04:34    Post subject:
reb0rn wrote:
If the game is good no one will care for wekeism, other then some old farts haters, to be frank

I hate wokeism in TV as most woke show are really bad, but I also hate ppl that just hate for no reason


This is the dumbest thing i've read all day. "Guise! You're old farts since you hate woke. I also hate woke in things, but it's fine when i do" Thanks for the laugh Laughing this is Sin317 level dumbassery
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 07:54    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Well you know a battle is lost when this gets 70k players. We'll never be rid of trans monstrosities and wokeism at this rate. Consumers must consume


Big words from the guy who wanted to get an EA Play sub to play this. Reaction
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 08:43    Post subject:
The player numbers will drop in time, as the game will reveal it's... 'qualities'.

People bought this because:

• they preordered a long time ago
• the IP is massive / known
• previous games have been considered good / at least decent
• not every gamer had the time to follow the woke agenda

Unless...

Scratch Head

Unless people are become sheep® and accept to consume with blindness and IGNorance this abomination, like almost everything that's fed to them...


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 09:07    Post subject:
70K is not a big number, we don't need to find excuses for it. Monster Hunter Beta did 450K a few hours ago after 20 minutes since launch. Usually, for a big release like this one, you'd want to be at least 120-130K concurent, which means sales in the ballpark of 1 million, in the launch day/weekend. 70k is run of the mill stuff. You can ignore twitter posts from people who dont know how to interpret the data and are jumping on the CC wagon which became very popular these days, but few people know how to accurately understand these numbers. While pretty mediocre/underwhelming for such a big release, its probably ok taken together with consoles for Bioware
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 09:35    Post subject:
Or maybe, this is just pure speculation and a lot of copium.

This is also available on EA's platform and easily accessible via EA Play.

It's also a very consolized game and the sales there could easily outnumber the PC market.

With the weekend coming, the numbers will grow and with the release drought for this time of year, a lot of players will give in.

The marketing seems to have worked, coupled with how idiotic gamers are in general. EA/Bioware might get out of this.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 09:56    Post subject:
The game was never gonna outright bomb or fail. Most people at large dont give a fuck or even aware about gay or transexual characters in a game. This is just us and a few other thousand people online. Its very possible that its doing better on consoles. It doesnt happen too often these days, but there are games coming out with huge discrepancies between PC and ps5. Jedi: Survivor did extremely poorly on Steam while very well on consoles. Same with Silent Hill 2 remake. Bioware should be safe for the new Mass Effect, it all depends what the projections were internally by EA. This is a $200-300 million game or more, so numbers in the ballpark of ME Remastered edition from almost 4 years ago weren't what they had in mind, but if ps5 is doing some big lifting, it should be fine
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 10:08    Post subject:
70k is garbage numbers for a AAA game. Space Marine 2 had a 225k concurrent on release and that only sold about 4.5 mil copies so far. Now if you translate that to this, it would mean it will sell around 1.5 mil in a month or so, 2.25 if I'm being really generous. This shit is not making its money back. It was in development for such a long time, and was changed several times. This likely had little chance of being profitable even if it was a good game.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 12:37    Post subject:
Game is freaking awesome!!!
Im playing as a genderfluid pansexual negromancer.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 12:45    Post subject:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2024/10/30/yes-dragon-age-the-veilguard-is-very-good---with-a-few-caveats/

But then:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2024/10/31/dragon-age-the-veilguards-clumsy-preachy-political-messaging-does-more-harm-than-good/

So it was not cherry picked, was it now? Laughing

The end result of hiring idiots like this retard:
tonizito wrote:
The future is bright:
https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1362024843835805697

Facepalm Laughing
I'll add this "gem" too:
https://www.keengamer.com/articles/news/kotaku-uk-apologizes-for-publishing-joker-slur-article/

And at least one of the senior writers getting completely woke mindvirus'ed:
>>>>>
and not putting a brake on this shit.


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 13:26    Post subject:
Haha yeah, I've been reading the humongous thread on the Codex and it's been a rollercoaster. Speaking of Schreier, he's claimed multiple times that he doesn't enjoy the game and its writing but he's delighted because he likes "seeing chuds get dunked on". Laughing That sums up the current level of journo-a-lism in the industry, then again water is wet.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 13:41    Post subject:
i dunno mens... two hours in and the political-woke-pocalypse hasn't set in

so far this is an action rpg like so many others, a bit shallow but nothing revolting. ofc this is nothing like DA1 but if you could get behind Inquisition you'll probably enjoy this

(steamdb has it at 77% positive but after the paid reviewers, those are surely all transgendered)
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 15:01    Post subject:
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i dunno mens... two hours in and the political-woke-pocalypse hasn't set in

so far this is an action rpg like so many others, a bit shallow but nothing revolting. ofc this is nothing like DA1 but if you could get behind Inquisition you'll probably enjoy this

(steamdb has it at 77% positive but after the paid reviewers, those are surely all transgendered)

I believe it's rather natural to see that the majority of people who spent 60 Gabeuros on this have no problem with it as they perfectly knew what they were going to find. Unlike Starfield which had some benefit of the doubt with its 'it will get better eventually and/or it will get better with mods' (both ending up being catastrophically false Razz), this game is essentially a finished ultra-mainstream product with a precise direction (I'd say identity but that's confused, to say the least Cool Face)

Some find it jarring (including myself), while others are okay with it - to each their own, really. As long as folks don't label valid critique as toxic™ while basking in their low standards, all is well.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 15:17    Post subject:
This... gamer wrote THIS review pointing out MOSTLY negative shit, yet he/she/he/her/xir/fuck still gives a positive review:

"Conflicted on whether I can recommend this game or not.

As a Dragon age Game...I cant recommend it. As an RPG its alright...Im about 8 hours in and it doesnt have the dark, gritty, feeling of any of the Dragon Age games. The writing is very sub-par and sometimes eye-rolling. The dialogue just overall feels very inauthentic. Its really disappointing that I found myself skipping through some of the dialogue because its just...boring. The game is however very pretty as an RPG. The combat is satisfying however can sometimes feel repetitive.

Id say pick this up when its on sale. I dont "regret" buying it, it feels like a fun RPG. However aside from the political reasons people have not been liking the game, the game just feels afraid to get as dark as a dragon age game should be. With that said, Ill finish the game. Then probably play Inquisition because I think that one deserves a second chance over this one...which is sad. "

I... don't... even...



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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 15:43    Post subject:
who cares


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 16:07    Post subject:
@ixigia
fair enough, both Starfield and this one fashioned themselves as "returning to the roots" or "form" or whatever -- this couldn't be further from the truth here as i said before

this is an action game with rpg elements, not a great one, not the worst one

and ofc judging by those (clickbait) clips the anti-woke-outcrier-league put out it does seem like the most disgusting political propaganda -- but so far i haven't seen "the message" being shoved down the player's throat and i couldn't care less if it was just part of some optional romancing bs (again, this might change)

tbh i was much more bothered with say gayle constantly trying to get in my pants in BG3. and once i had finally blown him off ( Rolling Eyes ) , that fucking bear druid started getting all weird
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 16:40    Post subject:
How many more times we gonna post that video?


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 16:54    Post subject:
BioWare are trying to remove that video apparently Laughing

https://thatparkplace.com/bioware-allegedly-tries-to-remove-gameplay-of-footage-of-dragon-age-veilguard-virtue-cringe/


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 17:07    Post subject:
what a great "article". the proof being "dude claims it on twatter" Laughing

this clip is so viral it's _the_ veilguard meme and that's probably a good thing too
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 17:26    Post subject:
zekkere1 wrote:


is it me or AAA games seem to look worse and worse stylistically? it literally has asthetics of a mmo-ish action rpg tablet game


And all looking very uniform due to industry standardization/accessibility icons up the ass etc. Look at the one Obsidian is working on too, icons and bullshit everywhere. Eye cancer
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 17:36    Post subject:
@pho08 Site has an article on Elon Musk talking about "woke mind virus" in video games.

No thanks to obvious right wing propaganda websites.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 18:13    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
tbh i was much more bothered with say gayle constantly trying to get in my pants in BG3. and once i had finally blown him off ( Rolling Eyes ) , that fucking bear druid started getting all weird

I've been finally going through Divinity's Original Gate 3 for the past few weeks and "solved" the issue by resuming my old save in which I was playing as Gale himself...too bad nothing could be done to tame the Bear's wild hormones or the pervy tentacles Dude Blush

Still, even with all its limitations and the quirky writing that unfortunately doesn't quite capture the ol' spirit of Baldur's Gate, I'm finding the game competent in terms of actual RPG mechanics, exploration and experimentation - allowing for multiple approaches (including the evil psychopathic one) and more C&C than I expected in a relatively PC-centric framework.

Almost the complete opposite of the heavily consolized awesome butto'n-slash friendship simulator here, which to me visually and conceptually resembles jRPGs/MMOs/[insert cluttered noisy Asian thing] as illustrated above. That honestly bothers me as much as Biowere's insipid writing - it was also the reason why I bounced off I WANT TO BE A DURRGON 2 and barely made it through the Iron Bull's Inquisitive Tales.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 18:44    Post subject:
Glad my first and last playthrough I ripped gayle's arm off the portal and kill the gaybearman for his attitude at the first meeting in dungeon. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 20:02    Post subject:
What % of the world are trans/LGBT? We can't count the backwards shitholes like a lot of African countries, Pakistan, Bangladesh, The US, you know those shitholes steeped in religious fervour and bigotry

So I would guess, maybe 5-8%?

So, why do we ALL have to bow down to this indoctrination? Yes, be what you want by all means, but I don't want to play a char that looks like Lilly Savage! I want to play a bloke, this does not mean I don't support your struggle, it just means you live your life as you want and let me do the same!

Just because I don't want to play an effeminate char, does not mean I am transphobic! Grow up you fucking Nazi's (yes you are as bad as Nazi's as you will not see anyone elses point of view, and only your view is correct!) See what you are and think about it
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2024 20:22    Post subject:
..and many of these people are just roleplaying being gender fluid and pansexual etc where you can just be a normal heterosexual but to gain traction you say you're something else to have a more "interesting" personality or because it's easier if you want to do something Hollywood or possibly even gaming-wise.

I remember when Chris Stuckmann came out as pansexual "oh yeah i've had my wife for 20 years but well, you never know, i'm quite sure i'm pansexual! Oh, here's the movie i'm working on btw.." Laughing that's the vibe i get from such people, fucking shills.


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