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escalibur




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jan 2025 08:19    Post subject:
Mixed feelings based on reviews. Great performance but it comes with a huge cost in terms of power consumption and heat as well. NVIDIA has removed hot spot sensor from FE and we can only wonder why. This card feels like 'Intel's approach' ie. when power consumption and temperatures have no upper limit. 5090's hot spot is absolutely very close if not over 100C during winter days. In hot places this card will get hot like never before. Smile

ps. You better not use 5090 with a poor PSU.


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jan 2025 11:32    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jan 2025 11:43    Post subject:
$1999 in "Finland" means...



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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jan 2025 21:17    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
$1999 in "Finland" means...

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Did people really expect the already ridiculous $2000 msrp to be true or what? Between customs, VAT and scalpers that looks about right. sell your kidneys for this shit:




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Jan 2025 01:07    Post subject:
You mean "RTX DEI Hammered Face"


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Jan 2025 07:19    Post subject:
Laughing

Compared to the 3090 vs 4080 - indeed
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Jan 2025 09:21    Post subject:
@FireMaster


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Jan 2025 19:39    Post subject:


I'm thinking now that for my upcoming rig upgrade I will choose a graphics card based exclusively on raw power, large enough vram and of course price, and completely ignore this frame generation bullshit, which I plan not to use whatsoever from now on. That might very well lead me to end up buying a potent 40-series GPU instead of one of these newest 50-series.

This is unless I suddenly realize that I need AI processing power on my PC, which right now I don't think I do.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Jan 2025 20:53    Post subject:
even if raw performance comes at the cost of a few extra hundred watts that's still a no go for me since I'm not in iceland where power is almost free.

550W for a few hrs of gaming is equivalent of leaving your microwave on for the same amount of time, that shit will add up quick to a smack in the face of a power bill.

current GPU tech just hit a hard wall and if we're lucky someone will rethink the architecture of it from scratch to make it efficient again. instead of this current trend of AI + Nuclear power plant.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Jan 2025 21:35    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
even if raw performance comes at the cost of a few extra hundred watts that's still a no go for me since I'm not in iceland where power is almost free.

550W for a few hrs of gaming is equivalent of leaving your microwave on for the same amount of time, that shit will add up quick to a smack in the face of a power bill.

current GPU tech just hit a hard wall and if we're lucky someone will rethink the architecture of it from scratch to make it efficient again. instead of this current trend of AI + Nuclear power plant.


I understand your point, power here (a country neighbouring yours) is not the cheapest but it's not unaffordable either, so I am willing to pay a bit extra for that raw performance, and also, these 50-series cards seem to have upped the ante when it comes to power consumption compared to the 40-series anyway (but correct me if I'm wrong), yet another reason to completely skip this latest family of gpus even if (like me) you're going for a full rig upgrade soon.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jan 2025 02:55    Post subject:
They increased electricity cost by 24% in NYC over last 2 years.

I downgraded from 1200W PSU and 3090 to 850W and 4080...

I'm rethinking buying 5090 to be honest..


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jan 2025 09:50    Post subject:





Interesting ...

Quote:
Test Resolution : 3840 x 2160p [4K]
DLSS 4, MFG 2x


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jan 2025 10:01    Post subject:
Seems 5080 is the better card in general. A few times it will be performing worse, but seems that's the exception, not the rule.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jan 2025 10:09    Post subject:
5090 seems to be 30-50 fps faster than 5080

But ... +1000$ gap ... Neutral

Personally, if these videos are legit, I made my choice Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2025 16:38    Post subject:

good luck with your MSRP Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2025 19:04    Post subject:
Crying or Very sad


On the bright side, DLSS Swapper v1.1 fucking finaly allows to manage Frame Generation dll as well and not DLSS dll only.

https://github.com/beeradmoore/dlss-swapper/releases


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2025 19:37    Post subject:
I watched GN's PCIe test earlier today.

The difference in performance between PCIe 3.0, 4.0 and 5.0 is 1-4%.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2025 21:21    Post subject:
Silent_Lurker wrote:

DLSS Swapper v1.1 fucking finaly allows to manage Frame Generation dll as well and not DLSS dll only.


Have you tested that? Any difference in visual quality between versions?
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2025 21:35    Post subject:
depends on the game obv?
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2025 22:19    Post subject:
Yep messing with DLSS/DLSSG version results depends on the game.

It can help with performances/ghosting/artefacts for some, but introduce more issues for others.
I would say, don't mess with these until advised to do so Very Happy


ie. In MSFS 2024, the NVIDIA driver 571.96 with DLSS v310.1 along preset J (which both are the next DLSS4 thingies) shows really promising results regarding artefacts/ghosting and performance.

Official DLSS 4 drivers and files are only 2 days away anyways.

EDIT : Cyberpunk last update already have DLSS v310.1 (AKA DLSS4)


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jan 2025 08:55    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
https://videocardz.com/pixel/nvidia-rtx-5080-is-on-average-8-3-faster-than-rtx-4080-super-according-to-first-review
Laughing Laughing



But it has more fake frames. Surely that must be worth the upgrade? Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jan 2025 11:58    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
https://videocardz.com/pixel/nvidia-rtx-5080-is-on-average-8-3-faster-than-rtx-4080-super-according-to-first-review
Laughing Laughing


People are selling their 4080s left and right for about 1700€ - 1800€. This gap is just too big for 5080 to fill and 5090 is way too expensive for what it delivers in terms of gaming performance. Many AIB cards are already over 3000€.


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jan 2025 13:37    Post subject:
https://x.com/Olrak29_/status/1883933954375573820



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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jan 2025 16:25    Post subject:
something something doing cumshot's work here.....





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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jan 2025 18:12    Post subject:
https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2025-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-review





5080 seems like a sweet spot for me (upgrading from a 3070, playing @1440p on a 144hz monitor)
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jan 2025 20:37    Post subject:


May the NFOrce be with you always.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jan 2025 23:31    Post subject:
I have a 4090. I have money to buy 5090. But I won't.

Waiting for next node generation. 5090 sucks ass, if you ask me.
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