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pho08




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Feb 2025 17:09    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvBtfqU6svo


"two options here: they've got incredible unprecedented incompetence [...] or they have the malicious decision to ship anway and hope noone notices [...]"

oh boy
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Feb 2025 22:07    Post subject:
Amadeus wrote:
Filling that void

plus that great physx perf

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1itxoh7/rtx_5080_vs_980ti_physx/

https://wccftech.com/user-combines-rtx-3050-rtx-5090-massive-boost-nvidia-physx-games/

Laughing


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Feb 2025 23:08    Post subject:
missed opportunity, he should have used a card from 2008 like the gtx8800 Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Feb 2025 03:39    Post subject:
A dedicated PhysX card or GTFO Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Feb 2025 19:21    Post subject:
$1410, $2140, $4000 respectively

1 EuroDollar = 10 MAD
Some whales will still buy this


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Feb 2025 21:13    Post subject:
My MSI 5080 arrives tomorrow, I will update if I have any missing ROPs Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Feb 2025 23:06    Post subject:
if u have, what will u do ? refumd?
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SumZero




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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Feb 2025 23:30    Post subject:
@PickupArtist
Nvidia is offering a replacement for free.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Feb 2025 05:37    Post subject:


May the NFOrce be with you always.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Feb 2025 21:00    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
My MSI 5080 arrives tomorrow, I will update if I have any missing ROPs Laughing



It's all fine, all the ROPs are there Very Happy

Now to test it out Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Feb 2025 21:03    Post subject:
Enjoy the new hardware.

Be sure to test some OCing. Apparently these 5080ies overclock pretty well.


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Feb 2025 21:15    Post subject:
Well, performance in Kingdom Come 2 went from ~80 FPS to 180-190 Laughing I'd call that an improvement!
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Feb 2025 21:34    Post subject:
Surprised Impressive!


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Feb 2025 22:53    Post subject:
Frame generation is magic. I don't feel any input lag in CP2077 (I'm sure there is some, but I personally can't feel it at all).
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pho08




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Feb 2025 12:16    Post subject:
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna4-officially-presented-in-china-radeon-rx-9070-xt-priced-at-4999-rmb-599-rx-9070-at-4499-rmb-549

If these prices hold up in the rest of the world AMD might actually stand a chance this gen
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Feb 2025 13:15    Post subject:
For AMD to "stand a chance", they pretty much need to be cheaper then the 5070ti, which they apparently are and they need to be better. AMD just has nothing going for them, and only being cheaper won't do anything. Once you accept the fact that you can't even attempt to compete at the top end, you don't inspire much confidence.
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Feb 2025 15:14    Post subject:
Hmmmmmm
https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-599-rx-9070-549-launched-rdna-4-up-to-2-97-ghz-16-gb-68-percent-faster-7900-gre/

Quote:
AMD has officially launched its Radeon RX 9070 XT & RX 9070 GPUs, aiming at the gaming segment at $599 & $549 US, respectively.

They sure as fuck won't sell for 600€ and 550€ over here, sadly Sad


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Feb 2025 15:43    Post subject:
let's wait for real benchmarks but yeah, looks good!
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Feb 2025 15:53    Post subject:
Considering most of the requirements these days require DLSS for any practical performance, and FSR blows ass, Nvidia really seems to be the way to go if you're gaming oriented.
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Feb 2025 15:54    Post subject:
It's weird they compare it to the 6900XT and 7900GRE and not XT to XTX.


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Feb 2025 15:59    Post subject:
FSR4 looks quite good though


dont get me wrong i wont buy anything AMD this gen , super happy w my 4070ti Super , but AMD needs more market share
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Feb 2025 16:24    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
AMD needs more market share


This. Healthy market's sake.

Quote:
Considering most of the requirements these days require DLSS for any practical performance, and FSR blows ass, Nvidia really seems to be the way to go if you're gaming oriented.


FSR4 doesn't blow ass. Not DLSS4 levels alright, but quiiiite there, and for -150 bucks it more or less deals with the 5070Ti. People can't be happy no matter what it seems.


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Feb 2025 16:59    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
Considering most of the requirements these days require DLSS for any practical performance, and FSR blows ass, Nvidia really seems to be the way to go if you're gaming oriented.
Yeah but 900€/1000€ for a jewvidia card as opposed to (hopefully) 600€/700€ for AMDerp will make a difference.
For me and others that still aim for ~1440p instead of fourkay!!11!!111 it might be more than enough. Add to that that most modern AAA games are just shit, I think I'll live without DLSS just fine.


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2025 00:09    Post subject:
Yeah, DLSS is the #1 trump card for Nvidia.

However, like tonizito wrote there's not really any need for DLSS if you're playing in 1080p or 1440p.

What's left is framegen. AMD apparently has pretty good raytracing these days where RT on the Radeon RX 7800XT outperforms the 4070.


* I wonder why AMD always skips 8xxx when naming desktop GPU's.


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SumZero




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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2025 01:40    Post subject:
I dunno and it makes its obtuse for the naming, probably on purpose for some reason.
7900 then 9070, Im assuming the change is to muddy the connection people will make with 5070 and 9070 (and all the other 50X0 and 90X0 lines).


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2025 04:10    Post subject:
If I didn't get the 5080, I'd definitely try to get the new AMD card. However, I really really really need a 5090 for AI.

If AMD could release a 32gb vram card, I could probably use that if ROCm support is there.


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2025 05:07    Post subject:
SumZero wrote:
I dunno and it makes its obtuse for the naming, probably on purpose for some reason.
7900 then 9070, Im assuming the change is to muddy the connection people will make with 5070 and 9070 (and all the other 50X0 and 90X0 lines).


Nvidia has 90% of the GPU market. I assume AMD changed the names so that their customers would have a direct comparison to a vastly more popular product.

I'm still rocking an RX 6800, for the amount I bought it for (only 1300 PLN/ 320 USD) it's a beast in 1440p. At the time of purchase I could get at best a 3070 for a similar price. I'm considering a 9070xt, but I want to see the real world price and performance first.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2025 05:30    Post subject:
Dude, the 6800 is a great card for 1440p!

Also note, AMD for some reason as drivers evole, the performance just gets better over time. Their 7900xtx came out a few years ago and is still kicking ass in 4k.


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Mar 2025 17:21    Post subject:
I just did a DLSS analysis in case some of you are interested. It is not DLSS 3 vs. DLSS 4 test. Smile



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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Mar 2025 07:29    Post subject:


I notice they've started to come in stock here this week, but I still can't make myself bite the bullet
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