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vurt
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It's the worst windows for sure. It's like they thought "how can we possible make this paricular thing worse? Let's restrict it with X, let ut make the user do BOTH x AND y when he before just could do Z).
The fucking "let me google if for you" garbage they have instead of just taking you to where you want to go? Who the hell builds an OS like that unless you do it for shits and giggles. Some real IQ 80'ish people behind this + people not really using the OS for anything other than maybe opening Edge to surf the web.
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2025 20:41 Post subject: |
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it's not an OS anymore it's far more of a very aggressive data mining and advertising platform that's why the user gets the shittiest end of the stick.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2025 21:08 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | For anyone not familiar, make sure to install Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC instead of any of the consumer versions. This one has all the secure boot nonsense disabled, much of the shit that you normally "debloat" is not even installed, and other stuff is much easier to handle. You can activate using the normal methods. |
Available here:
https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links
Make sure to download the link that points to Microsoft's domains (e.g. https://oemsoc.download.prss.microsoft.com/...). You can then activate as usual. |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2025 22:53 Post subject: |
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Well, it's one of those "I read it on the internet", but I read in some forum (can't remember which) one guy recommending again the latest LTSC and advising to go at least one LTSC release back. Guy was claiming that the last one already had some of the rot baked in 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2025 23:52 Post subject: |
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There is no previous LTSC for Windows 11 as far as I know. The previous is Windows 10 IoT Enterprise 22H2, which is still getting updates as an LTSC, but for gaming, not optimal.
I am running 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC on the main machine now and a laptop and it comes really barebones. But you can install the store back, game bar, etc. Just doesn't come preloaded.
Important, there are several LTSC variants, but I am strictly speaking about IoT Enterprise, not the others.
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jackbomb
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 15:59 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | there are several LTSC variants. |
Which one would be good for a workstation? Meaning only audio, design and video apps.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 16:03 Post subject: |
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Always the IoT Enterprise LTSC, be it Windows 10 or 11, since it removes everything from Windows that shouldn't be in Windows. I mean, in 11 the terrible design is still there, that ship has sailed, but at least it's just that.
If you don't want, you can never update it for 10 years and it will get security fixes. Or you can install the future LTSC on top and get 10 further years. For example, the last Windows 10 LTSC is still receiving security updates despite Windows 10 being declared "done" by Microsoft.
You can restore everything missing later, if you want it.
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 16:26 Post subject: |
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Normal Windows 10 also still gets updates, I recall? EU law or something.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 16:34 Post subject: |
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I'm not familiar with EU specific policies. MS designated Windows 10 EOL.
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jackbomb
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 20:25 Post subject: |
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Yes, perfect. And everything missing can be installed from Windows Components in settings or via web store (can install store stuff from Edge, without even installing the store app).
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jackbomb
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 21:03 Post subject: |
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Neato.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Dec 2025 23:57 Post subject: |
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Get in here freiwalda, you were recommending LTSB and LTSC for Win 10 wayyyyyyyy back before these new LTSC hipsters found out about it 
Or started posting about it.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2025 00:46 Post subject: |
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I've been using LTSC for long time, ever since they started pushing their updates in an ungodly manner. IoT Enterprise is something I discovered ~3-4 years ago when bloat started getting out of hand and basically the first day of a new Windows install became turning off crap and removing shit. I don't remember how I heard about it, but probably reddit. In the past, this wasn't necessary. I know people were building custom ISOs in the past of XP or Vista or 7, but I never felt the need to do it before. Here, Microsoft did it for us!
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2025 12:36 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2025 13:27 Post subject: |
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The AI writing the code was likely getting confused.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2026 19:38 Post subject: |
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Won't it just popup on Windows Update again if I uninstall?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2026 19:42 Post subject: |
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Update: Not KB5074109 but KB5078127 showed up 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2026 19:47 Post subject: |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Jan 2026 19:08 Post subject: |
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tldw not watching a utub retard with a retarded mug on the thumbnail
I like the new Notepad. There is a registry key that disables all copilot.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Jan 2026 00:13 Post subject: |
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Incredible.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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LeoNatan
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2026 01:57 Post subject: |
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Yep, after uninstalling KB5074109 ... Windows Update now wants me to restart ... to install KB5074109. You can't make this shit up.
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2026 09:06 Post subject: |
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My workstation is on 23H2. Yesrerday I felt stupid at trying to shut down my machine. Each time I tried, the laptop would just restart itself. I even try to force shut down with the power button but no. Though this is known bug and has alteady been fixed, things like these slipping into os like Win 11 is just meme level of Q/A. Windows 11 is a mess and I would switch over to Linux or even Mac in a bit if I wasn’t into gaming. I can’t think of a single thing I would be missing from this OS.
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W123
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MacOS sucks ass too, i am stuck with Macs at work. By the time they get their OS stable, the next one releases and it's a shitshow again. MacOS 26 has been a joke in terms of stability and performance.
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couleur
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| W123 wrote: | | MacOS sucks ass too, i am stuck with Macs at work. By the time they get their OS stable, the next one releases and it's a shitshow again. MacOS 26 has been a joke in terms of stability and performance. |
Yup, beyond the god awful UI update, Mail constantly shows downloading emails and Spotlight regularly fails to show any files. Both issues can be resolved by Force quitting the apps in Activity Monitor. After a time they come up again.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 2nd Feb 2026 12:56 Post subject: |
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| zenux wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | I've been using LTSC for long time, ever since they started pushing their updates in an ungodly manner. IoT Enterprise is something I discovered ~3-4 years ago when bloat started getting out of hand and basically the first day of a new Windows install became turning off crap and removing shit. I don't remember how I heard about it, but probably reddit. In the past, this wasn't necessary. I know people were building custom ISOs in the past of XP or Vista or 7, but I never felt the need to do it before. Here, Microsoft did it for us! |
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Upon installation, Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC will prompt you to activate. A product key is not required for this software.
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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-11-iot-enterprise-ltsc
Does it mean it's legally free? You don't have to pay for license or crack it in some way later on?
If yes, what's the catch? |
Well, I'm not sure if there is a time limit to the grace period. Every Windows since Vista has allowed installing without a key, but some Windows versions had a grace period of 30 days and then they started shutting down every 60 min until activated. Don't know if this is true for this version.
Before you activate, you cannot "personalize" you Windows, so colors, desktop background, desktop icons, etc. are all locked.
But activation is so easy, not sure why not just activate?
Edit: Wait, you linked to the evaluation ISO. That one is 180 days from install. You can change from eval to retail, but then you need to activate.
| couleur wrote: | | W123 wrote: | | MacOS sucks ass too, i am stuck with Macs at work. By the time they get their OS stable, the next one releases and it's a shitshow again. MacOS 26 has been a joke in terms of stability and performance. |
Yup, beyond the god awful UI update, Mail constantly shows downloading emails and Spotlight regularly fails to show any files. Both issues can be resolved by Force quitting the apps in Activity Monitor. After a time they come up again. |
macOS Thathoe is an absolute abomination. It seems like every big company these days is just peddling slop. |
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Thanks. So this means all the relevant libraries (.net vb+ etcetera) will be included but the slopware is out of the equation? Will it be perfectly functional for non-gaming use?
