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Parallax_
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 11:34    Post subject:
kenny64, stick with XP until January at least, no point in upgrading.


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 11:47    Post subject:
kenny64 wrote:
from you experiences should i upgrade asap or should i stick to xp ?

It depends. If you use your PC mainly for gaming, driver support in Vista is not that good for the time being. If you don't play much, Vista is superior to XP in just any way possible. Once you install it, you won't miss XP at all.
I'd recommend dual-booting, until proper drivers arrive, and software companies update their software to support Vista.
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 12:17    Post subject:
So should I stick this on the laptop? I don't really use it for gaming (Maybe the odd game of CSS) I just want an performance increase...

Specs :

Intel Pentium 4, 3000 MHz (15 x 200)
ATI Mobility Radeon 9000/9100 IGP RS300M 64MB
448 MB RAM

Audio Adapter ATI SB200 - AC'97 Audio Controller
Network Adapter acer IPN2220 Wireless LAN Card (192.168.2.2)

Any ideas on how this would cope, And what driver issues will I have? (GFX Card?)
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zk1nner




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 12:32    Post subject:
CSS works awful on vista. VPN begin reconnecting everytime and window flashes on alt-tab.
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 13:00    Post subject:
Suprised that CSS runs crap, Since its not really that much of a demanding game. I'm not really bothered about the gaming aspects of the OS, More interested in how the overall performance compares to XP.

Since XP's performance on the laptop is shit, I was wondering if I would see an improvment by upgrading to this.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 13:07    Post subject:
did anyone try playing dark messiah on vista? tried it on the RC2 and had horrible display bugs. went back to XP and no problems there. i was wondering if that problem was solved in the final version...


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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 13:16    Post subject:
Could someone tell me which release can be updated and which crack/activation method I should use?
Really dont have the time to read the whole topic, sry if this has already been answered...


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LastRite




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 13:48    Post subject:
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=Since XP's performance on the laptop is shit, I was wondering if I would see an improvment by upgrading to this.


I've got similar specs on my laptop and it runs pretty well . . . but it's a resource hog so don't expect it to perform better with less than 1GB of ram.
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Michko




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 13:52    Post subject:
hope nvidia rls some good drivers soon! There are some really cool gfx errors ;D
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 14:14    Post subject:
What will the ultimate edition include btw?


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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WalkerBoh




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 14:34    Post subject:
If i install Vista on a slave Hard Disk then when i boot the pc can i choose between Vista and XP?

The softwares installed on the XP HD are avaible using Vista?.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 14:37    Post subject:
WalkerBoh wrote:
If i install Vista on a slave Hard Disk then when i boot the pc can i choose between Vista and XP?

The softwares installed on the XP HD are avaible using Vista?.


Yes - you can choose between Vista and Xp. The software installed on the XP hd can sometimes be used directly in vista - but many programs use the register for information so they wont be able to run unless you install them in Vista too.


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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dominae
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 15:36    Post subject:
lnatan25 wrote:

When booting, Windows doesn't care about drive letters. It cares about HD and Partition numbers, which aren't moddable. Use VistaBootPro to edit the Vista boot manager to read the old Boot.ini and then edit Boot.ini to point to XP.


O'Rly? Is that why Windows couldn't find D:\WINDOWS\hal.dll? And when I changed the drive letters in Partition Magic, and switched active device. It suddenly could?

Thanks for your desinformation.
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s-b-l
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 16:07    Post subject:
i had to restore my vista but it can' be done , i have still this stupid error message :



how can i repair this shit ? and i also have error of 2 files : kbdpl .dl and credssp.dll
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 16:33    Post subject:
dominae wrote:
O'Rly? Is that why Windows couldn't find D:\WINDOWS\hal.dll? And when I changed the drive letters in Partition Magic, and switched active device. It suddenly could?

Thanks for your desinformation.

I can't see how this is true, as every windows has drive letters set in the registry. When you change drive letter in one Windows installation, it doesn't change it in other installations.
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WalkerBoh




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 16:50    Post subject:
I have found this interesting thing on keznews.com:

"Ok this is what I did before I did a clean install in my computer I ser my bios date to 2099. I did a full system install formated my harddrives and everything. After I got into Vista then I changed the date back to the right date. I have been running the RTM version from this site now for 2 days and I still have 30 days left for activation. And I have gone towww.microsoft.com and have downloaded programs that need the Geniun Validation and it validtaed and let me download the file I needed. So I am having no problems or worries about the activation. Everything is working just fine. I did the same thing when I would download a Win XP version and I used it for almost a year and it was still saying 30 days left for activation and was able to download from the microsoft site with no problems and all updates worked!! I hope this will help alot of you out that have been worrying about the activation. I am a computer technician been working with computers for 13 years and that was one trick I learned from Microsoft themselves when I would work on computers!!! "

I think it should work.
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s-b-l
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 18:54    Post subject:
could someone sned me audio drivers for vista ? i have realtek ac97 , i have drivers Vista_R148 but it's not working


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 18:56    Post subject:
s-b-l wrote:
could someone sned me audio drivers for vista ? i have realtek ac97 , i have drivers Vista_R148 but it's not working


That one should work flawlessly...I installed 3 different builds and all three autodetected the card.


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 19:21    Post subject:
WalkerBoh wrote:
I have found this interesting thing on keznews.com:

"Ok this is what I did before I did a clean install in my computer I ser my bios date to 2099. "

I think it should work.


okay, so you leave the bios date set to 2099 forever?

I've tried it an existing install of vista and now i'm locked out. Sad i started by using dec 2006 trick from mydigitallife site. this caused vista to not show the control panel or my computer properties. then i tried changing bios date to 2099. poof! vista asks for activation at login screen then restarts computer if not activate. so morale of story is not to dork with bios date with existing install of vista. Smile

i'll try to a re-install of vista with the above trick but it's unclear when you set the bios date back to normal just within vista or after install?
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 19:27    Post subject:
The guy said on another post that you have to set the real time inside Vista after you installed it and then also the bios time should be back to normal.
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 19:33    Post subject:
WalkerBoh wrote:
The guy said on another post that you have to set the real time inside Vista after you installed it and then also the bios time should be back to normal.


so, just to be clear:

1. change bios to 2099
2. install vista
3. change date to normal in vista
4. change bios to normal

is that the correct way?
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 19:56    Post subject:
He said that changing date normal vista it should be normal also in the bios.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 20:41    Post subject:
s-b-l wrote:
could someone sned me audio drivers for vista ? i have realtek ac97 , i have drivers Vista_R148 but it's not working


google for:

ALC880-882_Vista_V6015306
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 21:02    Post subject:
WalkerBoh wrote:
He said that changing date normal vista it should be normal also in the bios.


when i changed the date from within vista after installing vista, my bios date is also changed too! WTF?! how dare vista change my bios date without my consent?!!!
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s-b-l
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 21:20    Post subject:
Anthirs wrote:
s-b-l wrote:
could someone sned me audio drivers for vista ? i have realtek ac97 , i have drivers Vista_R148 but it's not working


That one should work flawlessly...I installed 3 different builds and all three autodetected the card.



but not fore me , i don;t have even stereo ;o

liansk wrote:
s-b-l wrote:
could someone sned me audio drivers for vista ? i have realtek ac97 , i have drivers Vista_R148 but it's not working


google for:

ALC880-882_Vista_V6015306



gonna try this one
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 21:38    Post subject:
kenny64 wrote:
from you experiences should i upgrade asap or should i stick to xp ?

wait 1 year


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s-b-l
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 21:39    Post subject:
not working Sad


instead of them vista isntalled somethin like this :



it's good coz i have music but i can't get all 5.1 speakers working , only stereo and sub




anyone have solution for this zonk ?
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streetunder




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 23:09    Post subject:
i installed windows vista and activate, but in right side of windows is shows:
windows vista tm
build 6.000000
something like that its normal????
is there a way to delete this or somethin??

anyone?

thx!
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Tutukun




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 23:17    Post subject:
so can anyone show me some screenshots of teh 3D desktop they've talking about? Not some screenshots from google, but screenshots from your PC


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dominae
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 23:25    Post subject:
lnatan25 wrote:
dominae wrote:
O'Rly? Is that why Windows couldn't find D:\WINDOWS\hal.dll? And when I changed the drive letters in Partition Magic, and switched active device. It suddenly could?

Thanks for your desinformation.

I can't see how this is true, as every windows has drive letters set in the registry. When you change drive letter in one Windows installation, it doesn't change it in other installations.


I don't care about what you -think-, the reality is that the VISTA install fubars the drive-lettering if you install it outside of eg. a present XP-installation (such as booting from the CD, and hoping it will work).

I installed VISTA again from within XP, and it kept the drive-lettering.

No amount of talking you do will make what I experienced first-hand not reality.


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