NOD32 Sucks, Alternatives please?
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bogo24dk




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007 01:39    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007 05:04    Post subject:
I was using nod32 and I caught a virus on my pc, cuz nod32 didn´t detect shit!!
The main reason I was using it is that nod32 is the less resource consumer AV.
But if it doesn´t protect you as it should, fuck it.
Using Kaspersky now! And cleaned a whole list of virus that were present because of NOD32.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007 05:26    Post subject:
bogo24dk wrote:
http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,124475-page,1/article.html


I'm curious which Kaspersky they used in that reviewing, if you use the internet security it does in fact have a registry watcher under the "proactive defense" system.

The Kaspersky net security (using 6) also uses a web AV (as does nod) and also includes a firewall, antispam, registry watcher, application activity analyser, application integrity control etc, sounds a bit bloated but hell, I don't even know the program is running unless im personally scanning my comptuer which I don't ever have to use since the web AV and mail AV automatically catch and block any infections comming in or out.


as for mcafee beating kaspersky...that's....lmao. Hell I'd trust symantec before I'd trust mcafee, theres no way in hell even mcafee could beat NOD.

As it stands, as of I know from experience as well as reputation, if your not happy with NOD, go with Kaspersky, if your not happy with kaspersky..go with NOD, otherwise...install norton.

users thoughts on KIS 7 vs. nod

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=562199

found this site as well on that forum for you who don't read it.

http://www.av-comparatives.org/


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s_hole




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007 07:04    Post subject:
difm wrote:
Care to explain?
Links and pictures much appreciated.

eat my memory and cpu, crash the machine, won't shut down or uninstall for shit
and just plain won't do what i want them to, when i want them to
they're designed to cut the user out of the loop whenever possible, as they 'know better'
which is not what i want from software that's supposed to be looking after my computer from outside threats
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007 07:20    Post subject:
s_hole wrote:
difm wrote:
Care to explain?
Links and pictures much appreciated.

eat my memory and cpu, crash the machine, won't shut down or uninstall for shit
and just plain won't do what i want them to, when i want them to
they're designed to cut the user out of the loop whenever possible, as they 'know better'
which is not what i want from software that's supposed to be looking after my computer from outside threats


Oddly that happened to me with Symentec, I went to uninstall it then the uninstaller locked up so when I went to restart it was still trying to run half functionally and started popping up errors, so I tried to uninstall it again and it couldn't find the folder even though half of it was still in the original location so I deleted it and all registry's of symantec, restarted, still was trying to run then after a few minutes of running I would get the blue hardware failure screen. Reformatted my HD, reinstalled windows and still had the CRC errors and was getting the blue screen. Fuckin uninstallation damaged my whole HD just from trying to uninstall.


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djbrummos




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007 11:22    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
I'm curious which Kaspersky they used in that reviewing, if you use the internet security it does in fact have a registry watcher under the "proactive defense" system.


well that wasnt to hard to find, was it.....just click on the review and you get this page:

http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/kaspersky-review.html

But for the people here that have vista installed like myself, i had quite a few problems with kaspersky 6 and windows vista ultimate 32bit. it just wasnt going smooth and kaspersky was taking a long time to boot, it was just slowing down my machine. and we all know, vista aint a speed devil, so if a program fucks up the speed of your OS wich is already fucked up. then you should reconcider, if you want to keep kasperky 6.

But after deinstalling and installing Kaspersky 7, it was just great. no problems here anymore what so ever.^^
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007 12:47    Post subject:
Unfortunate I have a good deal of time on my KIS 6 subscription :\ otherwise I woulda bought KIS7, I've heard nothing but good about it.


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djbrummos




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007 13:21    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Unfortunate I have a good deal of time on my KIS 6 subscription :\ otherwise I woulda bought KIS7, I've heard nothing but good about it.


well i never tried the latest KAV6 and i never tried KIS. because i only want a virus scanner. But what i was saying, i never tried the latest KAV6, KIS 6, so maybe they already solved the problems they had before.

I'm not a very patiance boy Laughing , so i switched to KAV7 when i had the chance. and i love it Very Happy


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007 13:37    Post subject:
KAV7 and KIV7 are both supposed to be less resource intensive than the 6's but that was read by other members on another forum. Though I'm sure their prob right. I don't even notice KAV as it is.


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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Jul 2007 18:35    Post subject:
I use NOD32 as is one of the best, but many people do not understand that signature file has to be daily updated and some s basically settings is needed.
Norman AV is trash, stay away from Norman.
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omega59




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 18:19    Post subject:
I don't have any problems with NOD32, it runs smooth for me and updates perfectly.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 19:02    Post subject:
havent tried nod32 for a while now and am running a legit version of kis6 and now 7 for a while and on my system the windows startup time is annoyingly long (with 6 and 7). Scans are slow, if you do a full system scan. BUT Kaspersky usually catches everything. With the proactive defenses module on, even more than it sometimes should, as it asks for a lot of permissions for programs that behave similar to virii but are harmless (like my logitech keyboard-driver)
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 19:19    Post subject:
NOD32 catches all viruses as well. It is not, however, anti-spyware tool, so it won't catch that.
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ZealotTCv2
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 21:43    Post subject:


Central command! JUST TAKE ONE FUCKING LOOK AT THAT MANLY GUY AND DARE TELL ME YOU DON'T THINK HE CAN DEFEAT A DAMN VIRUS!!! BAM HE'LL SMACK THAT VIRUS RIGHT BETWEEN THE FUCKING EYES BAM!

http://www.centralcommand.com/index.html

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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 22:41    Post subject:
Where the heck did you get KAV7? I even pay for KAV and I can't find version 7 on the homepage anywhere :S



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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 22:49    Post subject:
kosmiq wrote:
Where the heck did you get KAV7? I even pay for KAV and I can't find version 7 on the homepage anywhere :S


the beta is elsewhere around on software sites. Their not advertising it on their site as it's only beta.

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Kaspersky_Internet_Security/1110196590/1


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 23:12    Post subject:
Oh that explains it.. Thanks SpykeZ Smile



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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 23:17    Post subject:
kosmiq wrote:
Oh that explains it.. Thanks SpykeZ Smile



N/P Smile If your not a fan of Kaspersky then your a fan of nod32, and vice versa. Their both the best 2 around but I personally am a fanboy of Kaspersky as it includes a lot mroe protection in the software such as the anti spy and shit.


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2007 16:59    Post subject:
the german kaspersky website has kis7 linked just like the regular version 6 and doesnt say anything about it being a beta. A german tech-news-website even stated that it was the newest official build, some time ago, so i switched to v7. Perhaps there is a difference between the Internet-Security suite and the Anti-Virus standalone version?
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2007 18:09    Post subject:
Lutzifer wrote:
the german kaspersky website has kis7 linked just like the regular version 6 and doesnt say anything about it being a beta. A german tech-news-website even stated that it was the newest official build, some time ago, so i switched to v7. Perhaps there is a difference between the Internet-Security suite and the Anti-Virus standalone version?


Oh I thought you were using the KIS lol. YA I think it's the KIS7 that's beta, as that's the only version I woudl use, I love all the bells and whistles they include in it Smile


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Lutzifer
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2007 18:26    Post subject:
nope, i am using Kis. not Kav. So can we kis now and not kav all the time with each other? Laughing
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Areius




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2007 19:11    Post subject: Re: NOD32 Sucks, Alternatives please?
DeMoN064 wrote:
And don't say I'm wrong, This speaks for itself.

Quote:
A-Squared Found Trojan-Spy.Win32.KeyLogger.bd
AntiVir Found DR/Perflogger.CA.154
ArcaVir Found Trojan.Downloader.Agent.Fz
Avast Found Win32:Agent-XW
AVG Antivirus Found PSW.Banker.25.S
BitDefender Found Trojan.Perflog.Mod.RAR
ClamAV Found nothing
Dr.Web Found Trojan.Peflog.156, Trojan.KeyLogger.22, Trojan.DownLoader.8132
F-Prot Antivirus Found nothing
F-Secure Anti-Virus Found not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.Perflogger.ca (6, 2, 604), not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.Perflogger.ad (6, 2, 604), Trojan-Spy.Win32.Perfloger.ab
Fortinet Found Spy/Dropper
Kaspersky Anti-Virus Found not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.Perflogger.ca, not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.Perflogger.ad, Trojan-Spy.Win32.Perfloger.ab
NOD32 Found nothing
Norman Virus Control Found Banker.BOPF
Panda Antivirus Found nothing
Rising Antivirus Found Trojan.Perflog.ew
Sophos Antivirus Found Mal/Dropper-PQ
VirusBuster Found nothing
VBA32 Found Trojan.Peflog.156, Trojan.KeyLogger.22, Trojan-Spy.Win32.Perfloger.ab


Can anyone recommend any GOOD antivirus software?

Probably or using outdated version or not uptodate patch or sucky configured.
Anyway, ESS 3.0 from ESET is coming out soon Smile
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2007 19:17    Post subject:
Lutzifer wrote:
nope, i am using Kis. not Kav. So can we kis now and not kav all the time with each other? Laughing


Laughing Anything for you lub


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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2007 11:26    Post subject:
Kaspersky all the way...im using KIS 2007, great stuff,nice interface,good protection,not a resource hog...
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2007 19:18    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Lutzifer wrote:
nope, i am using Kis. not Kav. So can we kis now and not kav all the time with each other? Laughing


Laughing Anything for you lub


i ll warm up the light-sabres then Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2007 22:02    Post subject:
i use kaspersky anti-hacker and nod 32 Razz


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SuTuRa




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Jul 2007 23:21    Post subject:
NOD32 is not a bad AV, but is not as good as KAV!
Another friend of mine had NOD32, and it got infected. And yes it was updated!
KAV solved everything. In my personal experience, and in what I´ve seen in other cpus, NOD32 is not as effective as it should.
Specially, if you like to surf on some porno.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Jul 2007 23:26    Post subject:
You know you can buy it and get the 2.7 version? Most of you probably just got the 2.5 version, with the trail version?
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Jul 2007 23:37    Post subject:
i used avg free and swear by it!


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jul 2007 00:50    Post subject:
Haven't used an AV for 3 years since all of them I tried gave me false positives on files I was dealing with, making it impossible for me to work. Haven't gotten infected since (once a month I install an AV, do full system scan, then uninstall). Just don't download dodgy stuff, and if you have to just scan it with the online scan stuff.


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