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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 22:13    Post subject:
there is everything wrong with css

It's the same old retired gameplay with nothing new and exciting. The graphics are there, granted. The physics are there, granted. But that's all. It was meant to be revolutionary, valve said it! It was supposed to have new things! people were able to use the full extend of the source engine in an online world. And so far that hasn't been accomplished.

and since this is the only online component it will only appeal to those hardcore addicts of counter-strike. Those who hate it will not be pleased with what they get.

I have played the original counter-strike for quite some time and when i was introduced to what the source engine will bring i was excited. When i sat through the whole 10 minute interview with cs: source division and heard of the all new features I almost blew a nut.

And in the beta i didn't care about the shitty net code, about the fualty hit boxes, irregularities with the physics and guns being stronger and stronger than ever but these things haven’t improved in the final and OH GET THIS! HOSTAGES WEAR INVISIBLE HEAD SHIELDS!

There are a lot of things that need to be fixed and i will get flamed for not seeing the awesomeness of cs: source. But i don't care... valve let me down. They made promises they did not keep. THey made a buzz that ended up being nothing great.

cs: source hate it or love but you better love it cause after you beat half life 2 in a week there’ll be nothing better than going off against your buddies in a wholesome game of counter-strike.

Would have been awesome if death match came out… and don’t whine saying that in weeks mods will come out that will expand this game. And I say this how long did it take counter-strike to reach the final 1.6 stage? How long did it take dod to become great? Not in week or a month. It took some time. And converting maps into the source engine will have lots of hit and misses. Re-aligning the lighting, re mapping some areas and adding beer bottles, tired and other interactive items that would complete the online experience.
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evilmonkey




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 22:20    Post subject:
wierd I got the voucher bronze package and it doesnt say I own it, got css though, bizarre
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DrPowers




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 22:25    Post subject:
Your right... CS:S isnt revolutionary beyond that its the first game to have a full physics engine implemented in multiplayer. I dont remember them saying that it was going to be revolutionary, only that HL2 was. As far as I can remember it was supposed to be the same old half life ported over to the new engine.

I also dont see anything wrong with the netcode or the hitboxes... everything seems to be running fine on my comp with no problems or lag. Maybe your troubles are from your side and not server side. Hit boxes were a problem before but they seemed to have fixed that several patches ago.

The invisible helmet thing is kinda weird but a whole game shouldnt be disregarded as trash for such a simple and easily fixed "problem". And of course if you didnt like the originial CS you wont like CS:S... Because nothing changed other than the engine. The gameplay is still there and that is why I love it so.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 22:27    Post subject:
hey, guys..... what's is the
"Valve's back catalog" ????...
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 22:28    Post subject:
old valve games
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DrPowers




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 22:29    Post subject:
BeerBro wrote:
hey, guys..... what's is the
"Valve's back catalog" ????...


I assume it includes all previously released Valve games available on steam. Such as HL1, CS, OppFor and others. Not sure if it includes CS:CZ or not
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sagboy5




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 23:11    Post subject:
you must bve one of these 14 year old kiddies that only play cs because never did they ever say cs was going to be ground breaking at all.
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sagboy5




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 23:12    Post subject:
shit i mean what are u complaining about though, you buy hl2 you get dod cs and tfc source so who cares.....
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TuSeiSkeefoso




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 23:15    Post subject:
I see no reason why someone should purchase this game through Steam. Do you get boxes and manuals in the mail or what?
Fucking Valve needs some PR work.


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dryan
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 23:18    Post subject:
Probably in pdf format or something. Also, you get the game pretty much instantly without leaving your house. Sounds like a good way to combat piracy if you ask me.

I think loads of people will buy it through Steam although no doubt millions will bitch about it for no reason other than they hate Valve.


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m0nk3ysp4nk




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 23:22    Post subject:
dude i have boxes of games all over the place its a frigging mess at my computer..i dont need any more god damn boxes laying around. and what the hell do you need the manual for? its the same as every other FPS out there you aim with your mouse and shoot stuff. and on top of that you get a manual in web/pdf format. unless your some kind of homo who likes to collect boxes and manuals and such go to the store and buy it when it comes out...and while you wait for that day i will be enjoying cs source with all the other smart people who realize the same.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 23:23    Post subject:
sagboy5 wrote:
you must bve one of these 14 year old kiddies that only play cs because never did they ever say cs was going to be ground breaking at all.


they said cs: source would have extra feautres... hostages with ai, the ability to interact with object inside each map.

they promised these things and many more in a gamespot interview/preview.

Sad it's a shame Crying or Very sad
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outtanames




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 23:30    Post subject:
Hmm I'm not sure I've followed correctly...are there any more phases to be preloaded? When I'm looking at my HL2 'preloading status' its showing a slightly different message now: "preloading completed, you'll be able to play the game immediately once its officially released." So that means now all is left to do is waiting for the game to hit the shelfes? :-S


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m0nk3ysp4nk




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 23:30    Post subject:
the hostages just follow you like before...the only objects you can interact with are metal barrels which will roll around ...wooden barrles which will break... and random garbage like milk cartons/crates/etc that can be knocked around. not a whole lot. Oh yeah and chairs...theres a couple chairs that you can shoot apart. uhh thats about it...no wait theres bananas in italy you can hit twice before they dissapear.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 23:34    Post subject:
m0nk3ysp4nk wrote:
dude i have boxes of games all over the place its a frigging mess at my computer..i dont need any more god damn boxes laying around. and what the hell do you need the manual for? its the same as every other FPS out there you aim with your mouse and shoot stuff. and on top of that you get a manual in web/pdf format. unless your some kind of homo who likes to collect boxes and manuals and such go to the store and buy it when it comes out...and while you wait for that day i will be enjoying cs source with all the other smart people who realize the same.


Holy fuck..relax brother..did I insult poor little Valve in any way?? Go off and honk on Gabe some more. You won't get the game any faster than when it's released in the store num nuts. Why download it when you can buy it. What happens when you have to reinstall? You have to download the whole thing over again?..You won't be even able to download it when it's released because their servers will be flooded, so when you're sitting on your comp trying to download the thing, I'll run to the store and pick it up.


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 23:35    Post subject:
I must say those say those css screens looks schweet!


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sagboy5




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Oct 2004 23:36    Post subject:
see there ya go you go the boxes to interact with and the ai still can follow you around, they gave you what they said they would
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 02:06    Post subject:
PC Gamer has given HL2 a 98% can it get any higher? yes I think it can.

Pros - "Everything: Graphics, plot, gameplay. Its what experts have been predicting for this medium"

Lows - "Squadmates sometimes get in your way; low res textures in huge outdoor scenes"
"Valve has forged the framework for the next generation of games, demonstrating what our medium can and should be able to accompolish"

"An exhilarating entertainment that can emotionally move you one moment, kick ******* the next, and keep you immersed the whole time."


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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 02:12    Post subject:
i bought me a 9800xt and i got me a coupon or someshit Very Happy

although....... hmmm....

well, never mind.


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snoop1050
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 03:28    Post subject:
why are people bitching about CSS its still beta! open the fecking console when you start the game up and STFU!
half of you are probably pissed because daddy wont let you use his credit card
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sagboy5




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 03:33    Post subject:
i know, its bout time all this bickering about valve and shit needs to stop.
I really dont think pc gamer can give out higher than 98 percent, because even when they have a really good game they usually pull some bs excuse to give it a few points lower, although 98 percent sounds about right. Think alpha centuri got 97 so maybe hl2 is the highest rated score every for thier mag... correct me if im wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 03:45    Post subject:
ok i am wondering if you plan to PURCHASE the game, how will you do so...from steamor a store?

-JB


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muhahahaha




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 03:53    Post subject:
snop1050 wrote:
why are people bitching about CSS its still beta! open the fecking console when you start the game up and STFU!
half of you are probably pissed because daddy wont let you use his credit card


WELCOME TO LAST MONTH!! its not beta anymore you NOOOOB!!!!! lol
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 03:54    Post subject:
sagboy5 wrote:
i know, its bout time all this bickering about valve and shit needs to stop.
I really dont think pc gamer can give out higher than 98 percent, because even when they have a really good game they usually pull some bs excuse to give it a few points lower, although 98 percent sounds about right. Think alpha centuri got 97 so maybe hl2 is the highest rated score every for thier mag... correct me if im wrong.

pc gamer is usually full of shit miuhahahah
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 03:55    Post subject:
to people asking what the back catalog is it's

condition zero
condition zero: deleted scenes
counter strike (non source)
team fortress classic
day of defeat
half life 1
deathmatch classic
opposing force
richochet

you get all of it not just 1 or 2 you get the whole kit


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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 04:01    Post subject:
JBrow wrote:
ok i am wondering if you plan to PURCHASE the game, how will you do so...from steamor a store?

-JB


steam for sure... It's long lasting up until steam dies. it's faster and it's easier to install. No fuss and shit. It’s quick it’s easy! what more do you want?

I love the idea of buying it through steam. Valve should license it to other companies it would be much easier. Faster installs... it's like a permanent online cd wallet Very Happy

There needs be more done with steam not just half life games. I mean it seems to be a huge waste for having it only for a few games. It would be great if other games were implemented. It would keep things nice and tidy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 04:18    Post subject:
Is PC Zone still alive? I haven't bought a computer mag for 4years lol an english one that is. That mag gave right scores imo.
Oh yeah and is someone gonna release it with like pirate cdkey and bots? Very Happy


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maddmatt




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 04:29    Post subject:
muhahahaha wrote:
snop1050 wrote:
why are people bitching about CSS its still beta! open the fecking console when you start the game up and STFU!
half of you are probably pissed because daddy wont let you use his credit card


WELCOME TO LAST MONTH!! its not beta anymore you NOOOOB!!!!! lol

I think he meant all the people WITH the beta are bitching because they can't play anymore (hence the "daddy wont let you use his credit card" to buy the non-beta) NOOOB! LOL! Very Happy


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evilmonkey




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 04:32    Post subject:
still waiting on the 97% pczone scans, jesus christ
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maddmatt




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Oct 2004 04:38    Post subject:
evilmonkey wrote:
still waiting on the 97% pczone scans, jesus christ
I think Injurious has a link to that <G>


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