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_SiN_ wrote: | The only thing i actually liked, was the videotapes the killers had made, they felt kinda authentic and a bit scary.
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I'll certainly agree on that. The first murder shown, where they have that man in a noose and one of them strangulates him with it while the other stabs him...
The beginning was excellent I thought, up until it became a typical slasher movie the atmosphere had the kind of dread thats rare in modern horror movies.
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Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 06:04 Post subject: |
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AvP - 7/10
not nearly as bad as i remember, the story was pretty cliche "nosy humans go to see stuff and get fucked" but thats what AvP is all about. Preds using humans as hosts so they can hunt.
AvP 2 looks awesome. looks like it sticks more to the comics and even has the alien/predator hybrid (predalien) that was at the very end of AvP. Adn by the looks of it, this same character makes the pred ship crash back on earth because he comes out then fucks the ship up or something. anyway, looking forard to AvP 2.
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Stardust 8/10 - I'm not sure how it will age but i'm sure i loved it today. I've heard people describe this movie as not just a fantasy movie and basicly they are wrong. This is just like a fantasy-book whom usually has it's fair share of romance and so on. I recomend this movie to everyone (even if you don't like LoTR you will like this movie as many fantasy-fans don't like LoTR)
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Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 08:21 Post subject: |
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well i thought fantastic 4 2 was atleast better than the first one, so id have rated it a bit higher than a 2... but regardless... cant fucking wait for the silver surfer movie... JMS writing with alex proyas directing, fuck yeah.
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Halloween (2007) 8/10
Dead creepy/disturbing to begin with then turned into your classic slasher, albeit a Rob Zombie slasher. One of those that you dont enjoy while your watching but do once it has finished if that makes sence.
Good performance from Malcolm McDowell.
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balls of fury = 5/10
i have to see it again tho 
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Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 01:21 Post subject: |
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|IcedFreon| wrote: | AvP - 7/10
not nearly as bad as i remember, the story was pretty cliche "nosy humans go to see stuff and get fucked" but thats what AvP is all about. Preds using humans as hosts so they can hunt.
AvP 2 looks awesome. looks like it sticks more to the comics and even has the alien/predator hybrid (predalien) that was at the very end of AvP. Adn by the looks of it, this same character makes the pred ship crash back on earth because he comes out then fucks the ship up or something. anyway, looking forard to AvP 2. |
Shhh, chiv will se that post and will tear you to shreds. 
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Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 02:21 Post subject: |
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haha too late... its funny, he says something like alien 3 sucks, but he likes manufactured mainstream shit like avp... nice... next thing he'll be saying was spider-man 3 was sweet, but toy story 2 was childish and rubbish... just you wait.
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Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 02:25 Post subject: |
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Both A3 and AVP sucked.
A3 - 3/10
AVP - (-1)/10
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Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 02:57 Post subject: |
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a3 did not suck in workprint form. either way, a3 was far better than alien resurrection.
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Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 10:52 Post subject: |
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van helsing : 7-, a nice action movie to be seen once
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the first HALF of resurrection was kinda ok
i hated the human alien yeah that was crap
but i ABSOLUTELY hated super-ripley... it just completely pissed in the face of what was so important about the previous 3 films, ripleys vulnerability but determination in the face of the aliens... having her freakin invincible was not only a shit idea, but id hardly even concider it worthy of being an alien film.
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Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 15:30 Post subject: |
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Alien Ressurection... yes, I love the unique style of Jeunet and the upgraded look of the aliens (altho I hated the human alien), but this was just a shotgun-blasting movie filled with one-liners, nothing more.
5/10 for style.
chiv wrote: | a3 did not suck in workprint form. either way, a3 was far better than alien resurrection. |
Alien3 rocked, as it was closer to Alien than Aliens. But I imagine fans of Aliens didn't like Newt being killed off early. In any case, Alien3 is a very much underrated movie.
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Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 16:15 Post subject: |
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i think people hate a3 because its popular to hate it. i mean art design and direction and cinematography can NOT be faulted... the use of desaturated colour and lots of browns and yellows set a mood completely unlike any of the previous films... as far as the story goes, i think it was completely unique from the previous films so you can hardly say it was a retread of previous films, plus the acting was really great...
i think the only weak point in the film were the visuals, but the budget was lower, the producers were fucking everything up left, right and center, and finchers fast alien required a completely different approach to the visuals, so you couldnt just shove a man in a suit for the bulk of the film... i feel bad about how majorly fucked over fincher got while working on this...
it was a good film in its theatrical form, and a great film in its workprint version (bought the quadrilogy set, so ive got both versions... great dvd set!) - with so much crap out there... like avp , i dont see what there is to hate in a3, so as i said... i assume its just popular to hate it...
oh and i much prefer finchers workprint ending than the theatrical ending the producers chose.

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Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 16:49 Post subject: |
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chiv wrote: | oh and i much prefer finchers workprint ending than the theatrical ending the producers chose. |
Care to give me a spoiler on that?
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pegg2k7 wrote: | chiv wrote: | oh and i much prefer finchers workprint ending than the theatrical ending the producers chose. |
Care to give me a spoiler on that? |
Spoiler: | # In December, 2003, the "ALIEN QUADRILOGY" boxset was released with a newly created cut of "Alien 3" entitled 'the assembly cut.' It attempts to reconstruct David Fincher's workprint (which the studio balked at), but goes one step further and adds color correction and remixed 5.1 sound. Several scenes, however, suffer from poor on-set audio quality (mostly due to the use of fog machines and steam which obscures on-set dialog). Optional subtitles transcript the dialog. Here are all of the found changes in the 'assembly cut': The scene of Ripley being rescued at the beginning is completely different. She is seen by Clements (Charles Dance) lying next to the EEV and then taken into the prison covered in dirt. A group of prisoners heads down to the beach with Oxen to get the EEV out of the water. In the theatrical print Ripley is discovered still inside her cryogenic unit inside the escape pod. This scene was re-shot to have footage of the dog (more on that later), and has no Oxen or scenes mentioned above. Various shots of people examining the escape pod that were in the theatrical print (as stated, they were taken from re-shoots made during post-production), including a shot of a facehugger crawling towards the dog and an elaborate optical shot of the EEV being carried out of the water by a crane (in the assembly cut it crashed right next to the shore), are missing from the DVD workprint. Immediately following the rescue sequence, 85 tells everyone in the mess hall to settle down, and Dillon preaches before Andrews' first 'rumor control.' The theatrical version started the scene with Andrews' rumor control. Just before the autopsy of Newt, there is a scene with Clemens, Ripley, and Prisoner Kevin walking down the spiral stairs into the morgue where Clemens questions Ripley about her need to certain Newt's death and also asks her if Newt was her daughter. Ripley replies "No." As stated above, the alien comes out of an ox instead of a dog. There is a scene where two inmates are dragging an ox named babe after it has suddenly dropped dead into the butchery. They discuss what caused Babe's death, and they have some macho talk about Ripley. The scene ends when one of the inmates discovers a strange dead animal next to the ox's corpse (which is a dead facehugger). This scene replaces the scene in the theatrical cut where Murphy finds his wounded dog. The funeral scene is now intercut with scenes of the infant Alien bursting from the dead ox (originally it came out of the dog), concluding with a newly made digital shot of the Alien making its first steps and running off. Just before Ripley enters the mess Hall with her newly shaved head after the funeral, Prisoners Boggs and Rains share their complaints to Dillon about Prisoner Golic. They say he is crazy and smells bad, and that they don't want to work with him in the tunnels. Dillon tells them they have no choice. The scene in which Ripley and Dillon talk about temptations in the cafeteria ends on a shot of Dillon, where it originally ended on Ripley. Following Murphy's death, there is more dialog between Ripley and Clemens about why they had to cremate the bodies. Right after the scene where Ripley asks Clemens where the Bishop droid is, there is a scene where Dillon sees Boggs, Rains, and Golic, off on their excursion into the tunnels. Dillon asks them to light a candle for the dead prisoner Murphy (the first victim in the vent shaft). They go off into the tunnel. Immediately following this is the scene where Warden Andrews and Clemens meet to discuss Ripley. It has a completely new beginning, where the theatrical version begins with Andrews threatening Clemens, and ends with Andrews telling Clemens to "sit the hell down." There is additional dialog here where Clemens Andrews that Ripley was part of a combat team; Andrews eventually just tells Clemens to get out. Golic kicks open an old cigarette machine in the tunnel to get free cigarette packs. During Ripley's conversation with the reconnected Bishop, there are intercut scenes of a crazed and bloody Golic being found in the mess hall by Eric, the cook, who panics and drops the dishes. A little bit later, Golic is grabbed by the others (Clemens, 85, Andrews, and Dillon) and dragged to the infirmary. The scene following Andrews' talk with Ripley about the alien (where Ripley and Clemens talk) has a new opening shot in which the camera begins with a medium shot of Golic, then tracks through the hospital room. Later on in the scene, a tied up Golic interrupts with a few lines about how in an insane world, an sane man must appear to be insane; Clemens sarcastically thanks him. Golic spies on Ripley and Clemens talking by looking under the curtain. The alien drops from the air vent into the infirmary and lands on the mattress next to him causing it to 'lower'. There are more shots of it approaching, and Ripley sees it's feet through the bottom of the curtains. There is also a shot of the alien opening its mouth before killing Clemens. After the alien kills Clemens, and Ripley runs out of the infirmary, there is a close-up of Golic admiring the alien, he calls it "magnificent." Followed by a shot of a large amount of blood dripping from the grate through which Clemens was hauled by the Alien (just after Ripley takes off for the dining hall). In the mess hall, Dillon leads a prayer and then chastises the prisoners for what has been going on (such as the attempted rape and the death of Murphy, Boggs, and Rains) as Ripley runs down the hallway. Andrews takes over with a sarcastic "Thank you" and the scene goes on as originally shown. A new shot where the prisoner mopping up Andrews' blood. He looks up at the air vent (an overhead shot). This is immediately followed by a new scene where Dillon preaches to the prisoners after Andrews' death. In the same scene after Morse says they should take Ripley's head and "bash it through the fucking wall," Ripley replies "That sounds good to me..." There are several extra shots in the scene where the inmates set the trap in the tunnel (almost a minute's worth), including one with two inmates checking a pile of batteries, to see if there are some with enough electricity for Aaron's flashlight to work. Ripley looks exhausted while on paintbrush detail and shrugs it off, Dillon shows concern. As the explosions in the corridors are going off, there are several new shots of prisoners in the air vents engulfed in the flames and falling out of the vents on fire, as well as 85 running away from a burning prisoner. Dillon tries to activate the sprinkler to no effect (the sprinkler goes off in the theatrical version, and the scene ends right there). One of the prisoners is hurt badly and Ripley is trying to help him. The prisoner's friend Junior (the guy with the tear tattoo who initially attacks Ripley in the attempted rape scene) looks fearfully at her as she realizes both of them attacked her. The group runs for the spare sprinkler activator. The alien crawls down from the ceiling as the others (including Ripley and Dillon) try to lure it away. Junior is near the Toxic Waste room and sees a chance to trap the alien and runs into the room, causing the alien to run in after him and sacrificing his life. Ripley and Dillon lock the doors and the sounds of the alien killing him are heard outside. Dillon turns on the sprinklers. After finally putting out the fires, there are several new shots in the montage of prisoners walking through the wreckage of the hallways, and a scene where Dillon is leading a prayer for those who sacrificed themselves and died. Ripley and 85 look in from above and begin to discuss religion. 85 says that the company will arrive to kill the trapped alien with smart guns. Ripley asks him what if they won't kill it. Immediately following this, there is a scene where Morse is guarding the still bound Golic in the infirmary. Golic asks Morse to untie him. Morse reluctantly unties him, and after Golic asks him, tells him where the alien is trapped. Golic knocks him out and hurries out of the room. Next, there is a scene where 85 and Ripley are sending a transmission to the company about the trapped alien and Ripley, testing the company's intentions, requests permission to terminate the alien. The company quickly replies they are not to do anything against the alien, confirming Ripley's suspicions. Golic then arrives at the Toxic waste dump and tells the prisoner guarding the door he must talk to the creature. The prisoner shrugs him off and suddenly Golic slits his throat and opens the door, telling the alien he'll do anything he wants. Golic's screams as the alien attacks. Ripley then tells Dillon about the company's plans to keep the alien alive and Dillon says he doesn't care. Ripley insists that innocent people will die and Dillon tells him that the world outside does not exist for them. Morse rushes in and tells them he has bad news. The three of them, along with 85 go to the dump where 85 blames Morse for the insane Golic's actions. Some of the latter scene was re-edited to make it follow the explosion sequence in the theatrical cut. A new scene in the assembly hall, after Ripley discovers she carries an Alien: the prisoners are arguing about the course of action to be taken; now that the Alien is free again, there is nothing stopping it from attacking them anywhere in the complex. One of the prisoners lights a match for his cigarette, which reminds all others of the Alien's fear of fire. They all decide to move to the furnace area immediately (which explains why Dillon's following 'peptalk' takes place there). When Ripley and 85 argue about contacting the company there is some extra dialog at the end of the scene. There is some added dialog in the scene where Ripley tells Dillon about the Queen inside of her, mainly about the nature of the Queen and the consequences of its survival. Also, when Ripley fights with Dillon after he refuses to kill her, there is an added line where Dillon says "Go kill yourself" During the scene where the remaining prisoners are meeting to discuss Dillon and Ripley's plan to terminate the alien, there are expanded dialog scenes concerning Dillon telling them they have a choice to get even with the creature for its destroying the others. Ripley then questions 85's statements that the rescue team is on its way. Some of the prisoners discuss religion before the tunnel sequence (right after Dillon says they are "Praying"). They laugh hysterically, which freaks out David (Pete Postlethwate). This replaces a scene where David is told by another prisoner named Jones what he's supposed to do. Jones leaves and David says to himself, "This was her idea." Following this, there is a shot cut OUT of the assembly cut of 85 waiting for the rescue team. David (Pete Postlethwaite) finds Vincent's body in the tunnel. As the alien rampages through the tunnel, Ripley asks what the prisoners are doing (when two of them guarding the piston run off) and Dillon says "Improvising" There is more dialog when Bishop II confronts Ripley as he refers to the malignancy inside her and the great courage she has shown. There is also an added scene where the Asian medic explains the procedure to remove the alien from Ripley. When Bishop II asks Ripley to trust him and she must choose, the scene is more drawn out, and you can see Ripley agonizing more over the decision she must make. When 85 hits Bishop II with the pipe there is an additional moment which Bishop II can be seen in pain and wiping blood from his face. He shouts "I'm not a droid!" After this, Bishop sees one of his crew-members with a camera trying to film Ripley, and he tells the man with the camera, "No pictures!" Several shots of Ripley preparing for her jump, as she looks hesitant and nervous. She looks at Bishop and says "You're crazy." right before she jumps. Ripley's death scene is a completely alternate take: In the theatrical version, as Ripley fell, the alien queen burst out of her chest, here she simply falls into the lead. Her body can be seen burning up just before it hits the lead.
# The extended cut from the Alien Quadrilogy DVD Set does not include all of the footage from the work print. There are at least 5-10 minutes from that version that weren't re-edited for the new DVD box set:
* In the scene where prisoner Murphy becomes the alien's first victim in the vent shaft, he is singing a different tune than that heard in the theatrical version and there is no mention of the dog. He simply peers into the tunnel.
* A few more scenes of 85 and Ripley arguing about what the company will do with the alien.
* Shots of Dillon walking through corridors and finding bodies (Troy) as well as Ripley finding bodies (Eric) and verbally identifying them.
* Jude slips, falls and cuts himself with the scissors he was holding.
* 85 silently meditating with his head bowed down as he awaits the company people.
* When the company reps arrive, it is extended as the Asian rep asks 85 if he's seen the beast, and 85 says yes and that Ripley has one inside her. Bishop II replies, "We know that." When 85 sees the cage he tells them "Your gonna need a bigger cage."
* When Ripley is trying to lure the alien back into the piston, she keeps telling it to kill her.
* Right before activating the sprinklers and killing the alien, Ripley says "For the last time..." (this shot is in several of the film's trailers)
* When Ripley tells Morse to help her and he asks "What do you want me to do?" She replies, "You'll know..."
* After Ripley falls, Morse crawls over to look out into the molten pit.
* The last scenes are arranged a little differently with the video screen facility closed shot coming before the shot of the empty cryotubes and Ripley's transmission being heard. |
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Posted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 17:00 Post subject: |
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to summarise, basically teh bit i preferred, as minor as it may be to most, was that the queen didnt burst out of her before she died.
the reason i prefer the ending without the queen popping out, is because you dont know how close the queen was to hatching... ripley struggles at the end wanting to believe that they could save her, but chooses to sacrifice herself so that they didnt get the queen... in the theatrical version, you could clearly see she was going to die anyway... i find finchers original to be much more powerful.
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rather than being very light, bright and colourful, fincher toned down the palette to create a very barren and depressing atmosphere... awesome use of contrast and positioning... the use of lighting created a very surrealistic style, almost like what you were seeing was a nightmare, rather than just a camera set up to film some actors playing their roles... camera angles were amazing as well, but then fincher always was a master of the camera... yeah, surrealistic is the best way to discribe it, it feels very raw and dreamlike, sometimes disorientating, always depressing... it sucks you in with the atmosphere almost leeching off of the screen so that you feel it, not just see it.
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Wrong Turn 1 - 9 / 10 Great Slasher movie , loved it .
Wrong Turn 2 - 6 / 10 Looks way to Cheap and bad acting . First was Better !
Halloween 2007 - 9 / 10 Better than the original
Hills have eyes 1 - 9 / 10
Hills have eyes 2 - 8,5 / 10
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Posted: Fri, 31st Aug 2007 07:36 Post subject: |
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swingman wrote: | Are you one of those 'creative art' students? If you can write so much about visuals you did not like, one can only imagine what you would feel about the ones you do like. |
i was talking about a3, which i very much DID like. im not sure why you think i didnt like it?
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"Grilled" 2005 with Ray Romano (Everybody Loves Raymond) and Kevin James (King of Queens)
Pretty unknown film i think, it was only released on DVD, never in the Cinema. I am a big Kevin James fan so I give it 7.5/10
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chiv wrote: | i think people hate a3 because its popular to hate it. i mean art design and direction and cinematography can NOT be faulted... the use of desaturated colour and lots of browns and yellows set a mood completely unlike any of the previous films... as far as the story goes, i think it was completely unique from the previous films so you can hardly say it was a retread of previous films, plus the acting was really great...
i think the only weak point in the film were the visuals, but the budget was lower, the producers were fucking everything up left, right and center, and finchers fast alien required a completely different approach to the visuals, so you couldnt just shove a man in a suit for the bulk of the film... i feel bad about how majorly fucked over fincher got while working on this... |
Must have misunderstood you. It looked as if you found the visuals not upto par but you made that ample clear in subsequent posts.
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