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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 15:49    Post subject:
pumbertot.1 wrote:
dredziol wrote:
ahh okay Smile guess i will give it a try then. shame that they wont fix performance but i guess thats better than nothing Smile


nothing wrong with performance, you just have shite rig.


It's common knowledge (among normal ppl) that Gothic 3 stutters even on recommended PC specs.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 04:16    Post subject:
scratch this post..


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 04:32    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
pumbertot.1 wrote:
dredziol wrote:
ahh okay Smile guess i will give it a try then. shame that they wont fix performance but i guess thats better than nothing Smile


nothing wrong with performance, you just have shite rig.


It's common knowledge (among normal ppl) that Gothic 3 stutters even on recommended PC specs.


yes normal people with shit rigs. never had a stutter here even b4 the first patch. once you set the optimizations in the config file and if your rig is decent=no stutter.

stick to low detail games if you are running a tbred athlon and 6600gt. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 06:21    Post subject:
@ loser above

Get over that "shitty rig" bullcrap already. I installed it on a friend of mine (core 2 duo 6600, 2 gigs ram, 7950gt) with the 1.12 patch but without any config optimisations. It stuttered a lot.

Guess those config optimisations are necessary to fix the stupidity of the developers (even after the patch) That's because it's a buggy game.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 13:11    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:

Guess those config optimisations are necessary to fix the stupidity of the developers (even after the patch) That's because it's a buggy game.


show me where are they Very Happy

i meant config optimisations not bugs Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 14:29    Post subject:
dredziol wrote:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:

Guess those config optimisations are necessary to fix the stupidity of the developers (even after the patch) That's because it's a buggy game.


show me where are they Very Happy

i meant config optimisations not bugs Very Happy


What , you have a shitty rig, too ? LOL !
I don't know about the config fixes but I guess they are "included" in the community patch.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 15:58    Post subject:
http://forum.jowood.com/forumdisplay.php?f=661

As you can see they did change the memory related settings somewhat with the 1.3.1 community patch but I'd recommend that you don't install that INI and instead configure it yourself either by manual notepad/wordpad editing or using a tool such as the Gothic Tuning Utility.

http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=165717
(Defaults to german language but can be set to english language if needed.)

The utility can adjust any of the important settings in either the player INI or the game INI and isn't that difficult to use as long as you understand the settings you are altering.
(Modifying the cache seems quite effective for some reason so try to increase it to reach a more balanced memory usage.)
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007 23:30    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
@ loser above

Get over that "shitty rig" bullcrap already. I installed it on a friend of mine (core 2 duo 6600, 2 gigs ram, 7950gt) with the 1.12 patch but without any config optimisations. It stuttered a lot.

Guess those config optimisations are necessary to fix the stupidity of the developers (even after the patch) That's because it's a buggy game.


Ditto with this. Tried the game recently on my current rig(mistakenly assuming full-patched it should run like silk) and STILL had moments where the game would start chugging, enough to piss me off and stop playing. I am sure if I went crazy on the INI file I could get acceptable performance, but at this point everything should be fixed via patches. And I run COH nearly maxed on dx10 at 19x12 resolution. So yeah shitty rig comments are just a poor defense of a rushed game not properly supported.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2007 21:43    Post subject:
So guys community patch 1.5 is out fixing a lot of previous issues but raising another one - how on Earth are we supposed to run the game?

The no-cd crack for 1.12 doesn't work due to the community patch messing with the executable sooo I'm asking for your help in this matter.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2007 22:33    Post subject:
did you tried to mount the clonedvd and use some tools to hide the emulation?


I haven't lost my mind. I know exactly where I left it.
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bat_boro




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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2007 22:36    Post subject:
No I didn't because I have no idea which tools I should use. I have daemon tools 4.10 (it's the latest version, right?) but the protection still prevents me from running the game.
What else should I do?
I saw in www.gamecopyworld.com something about burning the game on DVD but I haven't got a DVD to spare at the moment and besides I already have the game on a DVD.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2007 23:25    Post subject:
there was a method for running the game without the crack using VirtualCD. It was pretty messy, and I can't remember the exact procedure, but you need the VCD image, some modified VCD file to replace some file from the original VCD image, and then you can try mounting that, and running the game. There's about 50% chance the loader will freeze so you have to keep trying.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2007 00:09    Post subject:
or just make a Tages clone with the new alcohol
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2007 00:33    Post subject:
bat_boro wrote:
No I didn't because I have no idea which tools I should use. I have daemon tools 4.10 (it's the latest version, right?) but the protection still prevents me from running the game.
What else should I do?
I saw in www.gamecopyworld.com something about burning the game on DVD but I haven't got a DVD to spare at the moment and besides I already have the game on a DVD.


would mounting with DT and the latest yasu work?


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2007 00:37    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
bat_boro wrote:
No I didn't because I have no idea which tools I should use. I have daemon tools 4.10 (it's the latest version, right?) but the protection still prevents me from running the game.
What else should I do?
I saw in www.gamecopyworld.com something about burning the game on DVD but I haven't got a DVD to spare at the moment and besides I already have the game on a DVD.


would mounting with DT and the latest yasu work?

Protection: TAGES API+Xprot+Custom

yasu will not work
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2007 00:39    Post subject:
BlueSkyz wrote:
SpykeZ wrote:
bat_boro wrote:
No I didn't because I have no idea which tools I should use. I have daemon tools 4.10 (it's the latest version, right?) but the protection still prevents me from running the game.
What else should I do?
I saw in www.gamecopyworld.com something about burning the game on DVD but I haven't got a DVD to spare at the moment and besides I already have the game on a DVD.


would mounting with DT and the latest yasu work?

Protection: TAGES API+Xprot+Custom

yasu will not work


jeez, talk about a lot of protection, wonder if it all works better than a condom


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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2007 01:12    Post subject:
Shit, are you sure the community patch changes the original executable ? I mean, it is protected !!!
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2007 07:48    Post subject:
community patch = community fix the bug that jo wood did ang some of them are paid for this - this so called "community" is dony by jo wood company at all
bughunters have acces to source code etc ...


http://rapidshare.com/users/QJJCS5 - Empire Total War Patches
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2007 08:43    Post subject:
BearishSun wrote:
there was a method for running the game without the crack using VirtualCD. It was pretty messy, and I can't remember the exact procedure, but you need the VCD image, some modified VCD file to replace some file from the original VCD image, and then you can try mounting that, and running the game. There's about 50% chance the loader will freeze so you have to keep trying.


Ah, it is the only way then?
I suppose there is no chance that we would see a crack for this community patch?

VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Shit, are you sure the community patch changes the original executable ? I mean, it is protected !!!


Yes it does.

damador. wrote:
community patch = community fix the bug that jo wood did ang some of them are paid for this - this so called "community" is dony by jo wood company at all
bughunters have acces to source code etc ...


Yes, you're right, but the 1.5 community patch readme is quite impressive. Above all, one thing cought my eye - "slightly improved memory usage" which means there would be no sluttering anymore, I guess.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2007 13:02    Post subject:
is it possible that a new 1:1 copy builded with the last version of DT 4.10 adv will work perfectly?
If yes, we need a new release Very Happy


( sorry for my bad english )
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2007 19:58    Post subject:
HostFat wrote:
is it possible that a new 1:1 copy builded with the last version of DT 4.10 adv will work perfectly?
If yes, we need a new release Very Happy

amen we need a DOX for Gothic 3 now
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2007 20:10    Post subject:
HostFat wrote:
is it possible that a new 1:1 copy builded with the last version of DT 4.10 adv will work perfectly?
If yes, we need a new release Very Happy


yes - its is possible
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Oct 2007 21:59    Post subject:
Soo, what do we do now?
Wait for a new release?
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2007 01:20    Post subject:
bat_boro wrote:
Soo, what do we do now?
Wait for a new release?


You could buy it, it shouild be pretty cheap now.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2007 01:56    Post subject:
Frantik wrote:
bat_boro wrote:
Soo, what do we do now?
Wait for a new release?


You could buy it, it shouild be pretty cheap now.

this crappy game never , first i need to see what this patch fixes while playing it
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2007 06:47    Post subject:
Yeah, I bought Gothic 2 gold because they fixed the game and made it playable with the expansion pack. This POS that has little hope of ever becoming playable has to be pretty damn cheap for me to buy it. I hate supporting Jowood's shovelware. Shit even EA games get patches a few monthes, sometimes a yr down the road. This thing only got a couple that were like a bandaid on a gaping wound.


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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2007 09:06    Post subject:
Frantik wrote:
bat_boro wrote:
Soo, what do we do now?
Wait for a new release?


You could buy it, it shouild be pretty cheap now.


It was not imported in my country.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2007 09:10    Post subject:
I bought 3 and now wish i had not Sad ..

What is the cut off point for a patch to be released? in other words after what period of time does a dev completely gives up on a game and move on? I'd say theres little or no hope of getting a playable vers of Gothic III now Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Oct 2007 12:01    Post subject:
Frantik wrote:
bat_boro wrote:
Soo, what do we do now?
Wait for a new release?


You could buy it, it shouild be pretty cheap now.


In costs 54 euros, Its cheap? Laughing I dont think so. All other games is droping prices with time, but not this shit.
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