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Dhaos




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 12:31    Post subject:
whats the best way to wireless set up the pc to tv?(pc upstairs, TV downstairs, Pc is also wireless with a router downstairs near the tv is that helps)

i have just set up streaming to my xbox360 that is next to the tv downstairs.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 13:16    Post subject:
Dhaos wrote:
whats the best way to wireless set up the pc to tv?(pc upstairs, TV downstairs, Pc is also wireless with a router downstairs near the tv is that helps)

i have just set up streaming to my xbox360 that is next to the tv downstairs.


You may srtuggle streaming the amount of data required for HD over a wireless link, especially in 1080p.

Always better to run a cable for such applications
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Dhaos




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 13:18    Post subject:
k thanks dirtymurt was thinking that myself after i did a little research

if i converted a HD-DVD to any of these formats do you think its possible without quality loss? .mp4, .m4v, mp4v, .mov or WMV so i can stream it to my xbox360
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 14:02    Post subject:
Conversion = Reencode = Quality loss.
No way around it.

If you're going to play on a 360, make sure you convert to WMV VC1. Then you can stream it to your 360 easily.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 14:22    Post subject:
k thanks leo i read a conversion guide on wmv vc1 and looked a tad complex i will have to have a good look through it i suppose.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 14:37    Post subject:
You should really read the Doom9.org forums. They have very good guides there and quite nice explanations on stuff.

Edit:
Here are some useful links:
http://galaxies3000.blogspot.com/
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=124020

The second link is a forum discussion on the subject you brought. Just skim through it, there's some good stuff there.


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Dhaos




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 14:40    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
You should really read the Doom9.org forums. They have very good guides there and quite nice explanations on stuff.



thats the one i read was over 12 pages of comments, i will have a proper bash when the download is ready.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 14:43    Post subject:
Smile I made an edit with links, but the second link is probably the one you've read.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 18:06    Post subject:
Also Bear in mind that such a re-encode can take upwards of 24hrs per movie


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 18:25    Post subject:
pontus wrote:


If you want to spend some extra cash...
http://www.tvix.co.kr/Eng/products/5100sh.aspx


I've heard they will NOT play *.mkv files. A lot of rls's are in MKV containers so this is a bad thing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 18:44    Post subject:
Whirlwind wrote:
pontus wrote:


If you want to spend some extra cash...
http://www.tvix.co.kr/Eng/products/5100sh.aspx


I've heard they will NOT play *.mkv files. A lot of rls's are in MKV containers so this is a bad thing.


When they were released mkv was not supported, but it is supported since a few months with a firmware upgrade.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 19:47    Post subject:
pontus wrote:
Whirlwind wrote:
pontus wrote:


If you want to spend some extra cash...
http://www.tvix.co.kr/Eng/products/5100sh.aspx


I've heard they will NOT play *.mkv files. A lot of rls's are in MKV containers so this is a bad thing.


When they were released mkv was not supported, but it is supported since a few months with a firmware upgrade.


Wirklich? Interesting. Time to take another look.
Do you know if they support USB CD Roms? That was another issue that people were talking about. I cant' believe they didn't just integrate one into some of their models.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 21:03    Post subject:
Whirlwind wrote:
pontus wrote:
Whirlwind wrote:


I've heard they will NOT play *.mkv files. A lot of rls's are in MKV containers so this is a bad thing.


When they were released mkv was not supported, but it is supported since a few months with a firmware upgrade.


Wirklich? Interesting. Time to take another look.
Do you know if they support USB CD Roms? That was another issue that people were talking about. I cant' believe they didn't just integrate one into some of their models.


Not sure what that issue is, I only heard that you cannot playback DVD's using CSS protection with an external DVD drive. So it's not an interesting device if you have a lot of original dvd's.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 22:29    Post subject:
pontus wrote:
Whirlwind wrote:
pontus wrote:


When they were released mkv was not supported, but it is supported since a few months with a firmware upgrade.


Wirklich? Interesting. Time to take another look.
Do you know if they support USB CD Roms? That was another issue that people were talking about. I cant' believe they didn't just integrate one into some of their models.


Not sure what that issue is, I only heard that you cannot playback DVD's using CSS protection with an external DVD drive. So it's not an interesting device if you have a lot of original dvd's.


Isn't THAT weird... perhaps they don't want to pay the fee (if there is one) for a key or whatnot. Shame there's no way to take a DVD and remove said encryption. Sad oh noes, where r teh haxors?

Also, I read on two parts of their website.. this does 1080p and another says it only does up to 1080i. Of course, given the inconsistency of grammar on the site, perhaps it's simply a typo.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2008 12:18    Post subject:
this is way too much effort, anyone want to look into their crystal ball for me when a hd dvd burner will be like 100 quid Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2008 20:47    Post subject:
My ball says between tomorrow and next 5 years.
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jan 2008 19:36    Post subject:
pontus wrote:
MasterJuba wrote:
guys i have a new 42 inch hdtv, a normal xbox, and a blue ray player and a complete noobship in hdness. whats the best way to play x264 on my hdtv?!?


If you want to spend some extra cash...
http://www.tvix.co.kr/Eng/products/5100sh.aspx


I have it, and I love it Smile

It plays .mkv files with no problem what so ever. the only minus is that subtitles are not supported on the .mkv format, but they are working on it.
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jan 2008 12:19    Post subject:
jesus christ, the difference in a few days Razz

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this is my external hd almost full of movies in just a couple days ... I guess I need a bigger external drive ... maybe one of those WD 1TB drives?


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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jan 2008 12:58    Post subject:
...still havent deleted shrek 3... and no i dont plan to let this go Laughing

nice list... when i get a hd player, im definately buying brotherhood of the wolf for sure


i try not to collect hd movies unless visually they are worth it - ie i wouldnt download zodiac, because visually its not worth the HD, even though the film was great.. thats why my collection is still relatively small.



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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jan 2008 13:04    Post subject:
for the record I have a 8 year old niece that expects me to have 'meet the robinsons' Wink


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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jan 2008 13:09    Post subject:
Nouse, get Casino Royale HD, it's great too.
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jan 2008 13:24    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
for the record I have a 8 year old niece that expects me to have 'meet the robinsons' Wink


for the record, thats a fucking great movie and theres no shame in having it - im intending to get it as well.


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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Jan 2008 10:37    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
jesus christ, the difference in a few days Razz

this is my external hd almost full of movies in just a couple days ... I guess I need a bigger external drive ... maybe one of those WD 1TB drives?



Welcome to the club of people addicted to HD. I hope you will enjoy youre stay by always lacking in disk space and waitting for quality rips.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2008 15:02    Post subject:
So, here's a question... why are some groups turning to DVD5 rls's of these HD movies?

Does 4.5 gb provide enough storage for these movies? i.e. I'm seeing tons of 8-12gb x264 rls's, but it seems the momentum is going for smaller rls's. Are there new advanced methods for encodings that make 8-12gb encodes unnecessary?

Or, are these guys just shooting for the lowest common denominator and going w/ DVD5 rls's?

I've been pondering this and I haven't found much of an answer in my research.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2008 16:52    Post subject:
I guess it depends on the movie/encode.

I have a DVD5 of Shoot 'Em Up and Equilibrium. First one looks great, the other looks hardly different from the SD DVD in many scenes (noticeable blocking in dark scenes). Shoot em up is also 20 minutes shorted (only 85 mins) so I guess that helps to.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2008 16:58    Post subject:
What version of Equilibrium do you have? Remember watching a nonscene 720p version of it, and looked so good when compared to the DVD5 I had.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2008 16:58    Post subject:
Nakitu wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
jesus christ, the difference in a few days Razz

this is my external hd almost full of movies in just a couple days ... I guess I need a bigger external drive ... maybe one of those WD 1TB drives?



Welcome to the club of people addicted to HD. I hope you will enjoy youre stay by always lacking in disk space and waitting for quality rips.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2008 17:11    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
What version of Equilibrium do you have? Remember watching a nonscene 720p version of it, and looked so good when compared to the DVD5 Ihad.


Equilibrium.2002.720p.HDDVD.x264-ESiR

but hey, maybe the dvd was worse. I'm starting to forget what those things look like Wink

but for sure there was a lot of macro blocking in dark scenes, when usually the blacks are quite good when it comes to hd dvd. the brighter scenes were a little better though. I wonder if has anything to do with the fact that it is a japanese import only ...


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2008 17:18    Post subject:
Strange, this is the one I watched...
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2008 18:06    Post subject:
Whirlwind wrote:
So, here's a question... why are some groups turning to DVD5 rls's of these HD movies?

Does 4.5 gb provide enough storage for these movies? i.e. I'm seeing tons of 8-12gb x264 rls's, but it seems the momentum is going for smaller rls's. Are there new advanced methods for encodings that make 8-12gb encodes unnecessary?

Or, are these guys just shooting for the lowest common denominator and going w/ DVD5 rls's?

I've been pondering this and I haven't found much of an answer in my research.


Has to do with scene rules and what they define as 720p. They restrict 720p releases to dvd5 or in special cases dvd9. The releases larger than dvd9 are all 1080p the rules for which I am not sure of.

http://www.aboutthescene.com/images/scenerules_x264_2007_v2.png
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